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      03-08-2014, 12:05 PM   #1
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Getting the 335 washed this morning and I made the MISTAKE of hanging in the showroom waiting for my car.

They just got in an MG M235I..that car is awesome. If I could have a 2 dr. again as my DD w/o my wife killing me, one of these would be on order.


Its everything my 135 was and more. This is w/o driving it..That will wait till spring and likely kill me...[ATTACH]Name:  m23i interior.jpg
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SWEEEEEET!!!!!!!

Both the pics from the OP and the MotorTrend article+images.
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I agree. Today I saw M235 at dealership and it looks hot. Perfect size for a 2 door car.
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      03-08-2014, 12:26 PM   #5
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I always think it looks like someone cut the back off or reversed into a wall lol
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Quick question for the guys who already have seen the 2er from the inside:

Is the interior 100% the same as on the 1er? Quality, materials etc.

If it is, then the 2 is a no go for me...
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BTW- It appears that the potential NA (US) versions will NOT have diesel option.

Doing quick searches on the web indicate several new write-ups on the 2 series. However, when I went to the BMW website (in US) to try a buildout, NO diesel options were available. You could do it as a 328i & a 335i (with a mere $10K diff for the upgrade), But it will not offer a diesel engine option (in the US), & interestingly enough, neither with could you do an xdrive, only Front Wheel on this baby.

Well, maybe that is because it is 1st year, new entry. Or the non xDrive is because they have sought to eliminate the drive shaft tunnel in the cabin to the rear.

Seems like it is the same non-availability for North America as with the 3-Series GT that will not allow for Diesel engines for the US, even though they are available in Europe and elsewhere.

Oh, well. Still quite a looker as shown above.
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How is that car heavier than the F30? It could be so much better if they kept the weight down
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It's not, the 335i is 1585kg whilst the 235i is 1530kg
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It's not, the 335i is 1585kg whilst the 235i is 1530kg
That article states that its about 3500 lbs, which is far to heavy for a coupe sports car IMO. The f30 328 weighs 33xx lbs
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BTW- It appears that the potential NA (US) versions will NOT have diesel option.

Doing quick searches on the web indicate several new write-ups on the 2 series. However, when I went to the BMW website (in US) to try a buildout, NO diesel options were available. You could do it as a 328i & a 335i (with a mere $10K diff for the upgrade), But it will not offer a diesel engine option (in the US), & interestingly enough, neither with could you do an xdrive, only Front Wheel on this baby.

Well, maybe that is because it is 1st year, new entry. Or the non xDrive is because they have sought to eliminate the drive shaft tunnel in the cabin to the rear.

Seems like it is the same non-availability for North America as with the 3-Series GT that will not allow for Diesel engines for the US, even though they are available in Europe and elsewhere.

Oh, well. Still quite a looker as shown above.
Its a rear wheel drive car...


Well BMW managed what they wanted to achieve with the 2AT naming it seems...
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Its 25kg heavier than a 328i, which is roughly 55 lbs, the 235i manual is 3366 lbs
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Its 25kg heavier than a 328i, which is roughly 55 lbs, the 235i manual is 3366 lbs
Exactly my point, I'd expect it to be lighter. That's to much weight for the class of car it is
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Its a rear wheel drive car...


Well BMW managed what they wanted to achieve with the 2AT naming it seems...

Initially I thought it was RW drive. In fact with the BMW buildout, it also showed up as optioned for RW. However, the article I read today from the Geneva Auto Show seems to imply something else.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1277...s-and-hands-on
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Yes, you are looking at a BMW. A front wheel drive people carrier called the 2-Series Active Tourer. We’ll just leave that to sink in for a minute.

The brand that almost entirely defines itself by its rear-wheel drive cars and has the ability to create "Ultimate Driving Machines" has at the Geneva Motor Show unveiled what, according to most on-lookers, didn’t look like an ultimate driving machine in any way, shape or form.

Let’s break this down a bit and try to understand why BMW’s decided to create a compact people carrier. It can be summed up in a couple of words: the Mercedes B-Class. Merc’s compact people carrier isn’t the last word in beauty either, but sells very well in Europe, primarily to young families who really want the classy interior and covetable key fob that a premium brand brings. It was predictable BMW would respond, and on the face of it, a car that’s both shorter, more practical and cheaper than a BMW 3-Series estate could hold a lot of appeal for some people.



"But why has BMW ditched rear-wheel drive, when that’s one of its trademarks?" we hear you cry. Well, a couple of reasons, the first being that if you want to create a spacious but compact vehicle, rear wheel drive’s powertrain – things like propshafts running down the length of the vehicle - eats into cabin space. The other reason is that the 2-Series Active Tourer sits on the company’s new UKL1 platform, which it will share with bigger Minis, such as the forthcoming Clubman Concept also shown in concept form in Geneva.

Are they referring to a DIFFERENT 2- Series vehicle? The one in the article being called the "2-Series Active Tourer". Does that mean that the car is a concept car, or one that will be appearing in the dealers later on, or one that won't be coming to NA (US) like the 328 diesel GT xDrive? If so, sorry if I got it wrong/misunderstood about them referring to it as the current "New" 2.

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Went to the dealer today to find out the story of my car since it was on the ill fated Asian Emperor. The good news is that the dealer expects the car next week. However, I am seriously thinking about canceling my order. Anyway, I saw the M235 in mineral grey with m sport brakes. The car looks nice.
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Initially I thought it was RW drive. In fact with the BMW buildout, it also showed up as optioned for RW. However, the article I read today from the Geneva Auto Show seems to imply something else.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1277...s-and-hands-on
BMW 2-Series Active Tourer pictures and hands-on
By Joe Simpson

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Yes, you are looking at a BMW. A front wheel drive people carrier called the 2-Series Active Tourer. Weíll just leave that to sink in for a minute.

The brand that almost entirely defines itself by its rear-wheel drive cars and has the ability to create "Ultimate Driving Machines" has at the Geneva Motor Show unveiled what, according to most on-lookers, didnít look like an ultimate driving machine in any way, shape or form.

Letís break this down a bit and try to understand why BMWís decided to create a compact people carrier. It can be summed up in a couple of words: the Mercedes B-Class. Mercís compact people carrier isnít the last word in beauty either, but sells very well in Europe, primarily to young families who really want the classy interior and covetable key fob that a premium brand brings. It was predictable BMW would respond, and on the face of it, a car thatís both shorter, more practical and cheaper than a BMW 3-Series estate could hold a lot of appeal for some people.



"But why has BMW ditched rear-wheel drive, when thatís one of its trademarks?" we hear you cry. Well, a couple of reasons, the first being that if you want to create a spacious but compact vehicle, rear wheel driveís powertrain Ė things like propshafts running down the length of the vehicle - eats into cabin space. The other reason is that the 2-Series Active Tourer sits on the companyís new UKL1 platform, which it will share with bigger Minis, such as the forthcoming Clubman Concept also shown in concept form in Geneva.

Are they referring to a DIFFERENT 2- Series vehicle? The one in the article being called the "2-Series Active Tourer". Does that mean that the car is a concept car, or one that will be appearing in the dealers later on, or one that won't be coming to NA (US) like the 328 diesel GT xDrive? If so, sorry if I got it wrong/misunderstood about them referring to it as the current "New" 2.
TOTALLY different cars. Try a little more research. Maybe compare the photos of the coupe with the Active Tourer.
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Went to the dealer today to find out the story of my car since it was on the ill fated Asian Emperor. The good news is that the dealer expects the car next week. However, I am seriously thinking about canceling my order. Anyway, I saw the M235 in mineral grey with m sport brakes. The car looks nice.
You've waited this long and now the car is here and you're thinking of cancelling the order. Yes, that makes perfectly logical sense.
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TOTALLY different cars. Try a little more research. Maybe compare the photos of the coupe with the Active Tourer.
Thanks. Appreciated the heads-up.
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I always think it looks like someone cut the back off or reversed into a wall lol
Its an acquired taste for sure, the first time you see it its meh but the more you get used it the better it gets
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That's way too heavy, and not a real M. Does not interest me in the slightest.
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Opposite for me. In pics it seemed alright. Saw it in person and it got quite a bit uglier.

The 2, much like the 1, does absolutely nothing for me. It's frumpy. Frankly, if BMW wasn't forced to go down-market to keep up, it wouldn't exist. I see no reason to pick up an M235i over a 435i given they are only a few thousand apart.
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