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      09-11-2007, 06:56 PM   #1
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Smile Scientist Burns Water (New Source Of Fuel?)

simply amazing. i really hope this solution works out in the near future. can you imagine the possabilities?

http://green.yahoo.com/index.php?q=node/1570
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Great, now we're going to run out of water faster than we already are.
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Great, now we're going to run out of water faster than we already are.
no we run out of fresh water, not salt water

so its bsically burning the hydrogen in the water, what happens to the oxygen and sodium?
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no we run out of fresh water, not salt water

so its bsically burning the hydrogen in the water, what happens to the oxygen and sodium?
it becomes a by-product
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Great, now we're going to run out of water faster than we already are.
Since when have we been in danger of running out of water?

I would think with all the Global-Warming effect's we have seen the past few years, water is more then plentiful. (Wicked storms, polar caps melting, etc..)

Tho we do consume water, it is all a cycle the gets recirculated in one form or another.

I remember doing a case study back in school comparing the water on earth when dinosaurs still roamed compared to modern day. If i remember correctly not much has changed, if anything because of Global-Warming there might be a fraction more today.
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H2 O and Na Cl, less H2, remains O, Na, Cl. NaCl will still be available.
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This can totally be the next WMD.
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Run out of saltwater? Are you kidding me?

How long have we made it on the crude supply that amounts to about .01% of the amount of salt water we have on this planet?

By the time we run out of water, humans will have learned to blow shit up with their minds and be flying all around like the X-Men.
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This can totally be the next WMD.
Yes, all the terrorists would need is a radio transmitter the size of the Texas hoisted up into the upper atmosphere. But wait... how would burning the worlds oceans be getting back at the U.S.? Terrorists need water too.
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Of course, if the huge oil giants dont find a way to make just as much profit as they do with oil, you can file this in the rest of the stuff that would work but not enough money backing the idea for a real change. (ethanol, natural gas, propane, hydrogen, biodiesel, electricity, methanol, and p-series fuels)
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Yes, all the terrorists would need is a radio transmitter the size of the Texas hoisted up into the upper atmosphere. But wait... how would burning the worlds oceans be getting back at the U.S.? Terrorists need water too.
Mass destruction doesn't necessary need to be aimed at the U.S.
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Radical Islam doesn't attack everyone, just those who they believe are imposing, on them, a different culture/way of life.

They're crazy, but not that crazy.
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Radical Islam doesn't attack everyone, just those who they believe are imposing, on them, a different culture/way of life.

They're crazy, but not that crazy.
Probably my fault for using the term WMD. I meant mass destruction and apocalypse in general.
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this sounds pretty bad ass. now someone needs to find a way to use the ocean water for something
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I am surprised this information got this far into media outlets. Within weeks the patent will be bought by an oil company and filed away in a vault like the many before it. We can send autonomous robots to mars, manipulate atoms & create chips that can fit on the head of a needle, yet the combustion engine has barely changed in a century...


I hear they are making a building that looks like an iPod in Dubai though
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Wait there was another guy who got a paten in Feb 06 that converts H2O to HH & O and burns it to be used a torch, and he wants to put in an engine too



But the problem with this is it requires lots of electricity to convert H20 to HH O.

I am not sure other the other guys is doing with saltwater what is different than this guy
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here is the saltwater guy



If your remember your high school chemistry you will remember that when pure sodium comes in contact with water it would reacts violently so that is what you are seeing there.

Again you have to ask how much electricity he is using to convert the water.
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Since when have we been in danger of running out of water?

I would think with all the Global-Warming effect's we have seen the past few years, water is more then plentiful. (Wicked storms, polar caps melting, etc..)

Tho we do consume water, it is all a cycle the gets recirculated in one form or another.

I remember doing a case study back in school comparing the water on earth when dinosaurs still roamed compared to modern day. If i remember correctly not much has changed, if anything because of Global-Warming there might be a fraction more today.
I think Fresh water is a nonrenewable resource. We'll always have water but... but getting those desalinators or whatever they're called to run and filter out the salt in salt water is pretty expensive.
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If your remember your high school chemistry you will remember that when pure sodium comes in contact with water it would reacts violently so that is what you are seeing there.

Again you have to ask how much electricity he is using to convert the water.
didn't watch the vid but the high school chemistry reaction of Na+H2O is just a redox equation producing H2 gas and NaOH... i highly doubt doing that would produce enough energy.

reason why we are so oil dependent is because it is one of the more efficient energy resources... gotta remember than it takes energy to make energy...
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simply amazing. i really hope this solution works out in the near future. can you imagine the possabilities?

http://green.yahoo.com/index.php?q=node/1570
Sadly, I think this person or some of his family members will disappear before this invention gets anywhere.

Can you imagine the amount of oil money involved? Do you think the folks who have a stake of oil money will let this happen?
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didn't watch the vid but the high school chemistry reaction of Na+H2O is just a redox equation producing H2 gas and NaOH... i highly doubt doing that would produce enough energy.

reason why we are so oil dependent is because it is one of the more efficient energy resources... gotta remember than it takes energy to make energy...
You probably right, but Na + H20 is a very violent reaction and it self ignites too. and if you confine the H2 in the present of the energy being release by the NaOH reaction the H2 will explode with a little O2 present. But this process is exothermic <--- I think that is correct term, so it very hard to control and does not make a stable process plus getting pure Na is not easy.

Actually burn oil/gas is the lease efficient, 80 or 90% is wasted as heat when use in a car.

I do not believe this guys process are any better once you look at how much energy is need to initiate the process.

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