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      03-05-2013, 07:17 PM   #23
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      03-05-2013, 09:32 PM   #24
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      03-05-2013, 09:52 PM   #25
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      03-05-2013, 10:54 PM   #26
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I don't understand why the induction setup would have an impact on how the crankcase is cast. I could see a different head perhaps, but a different block?
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Nice. Great detailed description.
What about price?
Why can't they change the wheels?
These wheels look good on 7. But 3 needs something sporty, lesser spokes.
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I've never liked any Alpina from an aesthetic stand point, but this is all sorts of beautiful.
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      03-06-2013, 01:20 AM   #29
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What is interesting is even with all that torque it is still slower then c 63 .

0-200 quoted is 14 sec. while AMG does it in 13.3. Obviously 0-250 will be even worse.

http://fastestlaps.com/cars/mercedes...e_package.html
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Nice. Great detailed description.
What about price?
Why can't they change the wheels?
These wheels look good on 7. But 3 needs something sporty, lesser spokes.
The F30 B3 costs from €65.000 and the E92 M3 costs from €68.750 in Germany, so the Alpina is a bit cheaper.

However, the Alpina philosophy differs quite a bit from M GmbH (or AMG for that matter). Alpina offers exclusivity, comfort and speed, and the M's are pure performance cars.

And the wheels are an evolution of the classic 20 spoke wheels they have been using since the 1960ies.

I am a huge fan of Alpina, and I think Alpina is all about tradition and a long history with BMW, and an Alpina is a finished product from the factory - an M3 with BBS wheels and Brembos and other aftermarket stuff is just cool, but an Alpina with other wheels and spoilers is sacrilege
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      03-06-2013, 03:35 AM   #31
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How is no one mentioning that it's a TWIN TURBO N55!!

This is a HUGE development for the n55 world guys..
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Well, it seems that Alpina fixed the N55 engine for BMW. The made it twin-turbo, and added a forged crankshaft. The M3 engine will probably be very similar to this engine, except for the air-to-air intercooler which is replaced with an water-to-air intercooler.
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      03-06-2013, 08:49 AM   #34
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How is no one mentioning that it's a TWIN TURBO N55!!

This is a HUGE development for the n55 world guys..
I said it, right here in the same thread: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=18
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What is interesting is even with all that torque it is still slower then c 63 .

0-200 quoted is 14 sec. while AMG does it in 13.3. Obviously 0-250 will be even worse.

http://fastestlaps.com/cars/mercedes...e_package.html
Sorry, but stupid comparison.
First, if straight line performance is all you are looking for, look at other brands.
Second, the MB has more cylinders (8), more capacity (6.2 L), more HP, and the same amount of torque (600 Nm).

If this Alpina with a 6 cylinder 3.0L does 0-200 in only .7 seconds slower, then that is just stunning for the Alpina.
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      03-06-2013, 10:18 AM   #37
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The F30 B3 costs from €65.000 and the E92 M3 costs from €68.750 in Germany, so the Alpina is a bit cheaper.

However, the Alpina philosophy differs quite a bit from M GmbH (or AMG for that matter). Alpina offers exclusivity, comfort and speed, and the M's are pure performance cars.

And the wheels are an evolution of the classic 20 spoke wheels they have been using since the 1960ies.

I am a huge fan of Alpina, and I think Alpina is all about tradition and a long history with BMW, and an Alpina is a finished product from the factory - an M3 with BBS wheels and Brembos and other aftermarket stuff is just cool, but an Alpina with other wheels and spoilers is sacrilege
Thanks man for a very nice reply. I agree Alpina is a different line.
It was just my opinion, not a fan of those wheels :-)
Apart from the Alpina performance and comfort, one thing I really appreciate is Alpina doesnt deface BMW like Hamman and other body kit makers do. It keeps the car elegant and beautiful.
Well, when you are above 60k price range, 3k doesnt matter much
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The F30 B3 costs from €65.000 and the E92 M3 costs from €68.750 in Germany, so the Alpina is a bit cheaper.
Yeah, but that is for the past-generation M3 so the comparison is not very good. The new M3 F80 will be substantially more expensive and therefor the gap between the two will be far larger than right now.

The engine is great in any case, Alpina giving the N55 back what was taken away from it (i.e. one turbocharger). This is the real successor to the N54 engine.

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Thanks man for a very nice reply. ......
Well, when you are above 60k price range, 3k doesnt matter much
You're welcome

..and the 3k is easily lost in adding extras; all the usual BMW-stuff and of course Alpina-blue metallic €2180 and the Lavallina full-leather interior for €10400
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I said it, right here in the same thread: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=18
my bad

that's incredible though

new crank, crank case, twin turbo setup

i wonder what size... TD03 like the N54 or something a bit more reliable/larger?. i'm assuming so as 410crank hp would push them a bit..

lucky F30 B3 owners if someone decides to make a tune, should be able to get some VERY nice numbers
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Yeah, bringing back them pinstripes. Love it!
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Anyone knows where can i get that digital panel with engine/performance info?? Alpina doest sell it!

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Wonderful. I really want to see and hear a twin turbo N55!!!
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Anyone knows where can i get that digital panel with engine/performance info?? Alpina doest sell it!

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I have this display in my e93 m3, e92 335i and soon in my f21 125d.
Undortunatly no display for f10 m5.
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