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N-Y · 03-27-2013, 05:11 PM

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so from the this picture that i'm seeing on a 328i, it looks like I should be able to replace the stick on my car.

i currently have the one on the left but want the one on the right... should it be an easy upgrade? plug n play type of upgrade?

kromix · 03-27-2013, 05:16 PM

interested. anyone know? i doubt its plug n play

N-Y · 03-27-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kromix

interested. anyone know? i doubt its plug n play

I guess nobody knows lol

Yobyot · 03-27-2013, 07:51 PM

The shifter on the left is the standard 8sp AT shifter. It has a plastic boot.

The shifter on the right comes with 2TB -- the sport AT. In US models, you can only add 2TB if you also order ZSL or ZML.

BTW, the car you pictured looks like a ZML car without 2TB -- an abomination, IMHO.

N-Y · 03-27-2013, 07:54 PM

what is ZSL or ZML

Smurfs · 03-27-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by N-Y

what is ZSL or ZML

I am not sure what Yobyot stated is true but here are the options Yobyot is referring to:
2TB - Sport Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters
ZSL - Sports line
ZML - Modern line

I believe Yobyot meant to say ZMM not ZML.

ZMM - M Line

I don't see why this wouldn't fit but would love to know. It looks slick.

N-Y · 03-27-2013, 08:21 PM

i just like the leather base, looks a lot better.
i have a 2012 f30 sportline with M SPORT SUSPENSION, HIGH SPEED SYNCHRONISATION,

CoolDude196 · 03-28-2013, 02:45 AM

I think you should be able to swap the part. The lever doesn't actually connect to the gearbox I don't think, it's drive by wire, right? So therefore, it wouldn't be that difficult to swap?

Contact your dealer though to be sure

N-Y · 03-28-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolDude196

I think you should be able to swap the part. The lever doesn't actually connect to the gearbox I don't think, it's drive by wire, right? So therefore, it wouldn't be that difficult to swap?

Contact your dealer though to be sure

I will, hopefully i should be able to

N-Y · 03-28-2013, 09:16 AM

apparently its like a $1200 job lol... i'm not a mechanic, but logically doesnt add up lol... its the same stick, functions the same way, but cosmetically looks different.

DmitryF30 · 03-28-2013, 09:40 PM

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apparently its like a $1200 job lol... i'm not a mechanic, but logically doesnt add up lol... its the same stick, functions the same way, but cosmetically looks different.

N-Y, I am not sure who quoted you $1,200 for this, but that price is not fair. The M-Performance shifter is similar in appearance is going for $180 MSRP (you can get it cheaper on Ebay) and according to Jason's post, it should take 0.3 hours to install: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783743
If M-peformance shifter can be installed on any automatic, I bet one can retrofit sport auto one in a non-sport auto.

I recommend you speak to a parts guy: unlike realoem.com, their database will actually tell you if a part can be retrofitted in your vehicle.

D.

N-Y · 03-28-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DmitryF30

N-Y, I am not sure who quoted you $1,200 for this, but that price is not fair. The M-Performance shifter is similar in appearance is going for $180 MSRP (you can get it cheaper on Ebay) and according to Jason's post, it should take 0.3 hours to install: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783743
If M-peformance shifter can be installed on any automatic, I bet one can retrofit sport auto one in a non-sport auto.

I recommend you speak to a parts guy: unlike realoem.com, their database will actually tell you if a part can be retrofitted in your vehicle.

D.

parts guy from BMW?

DmitryF30 · 03-28-2013, 11:23 PM

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parts guy from BMW?

Yep. Ask parts department guy at the dealership for help. I have always had good experience with that approach: they can give you a pretty good idea if a component from a differently-optioned car will fit yours based on your options.

N-Y · 03-29-2013, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DmitryF30

Yep. Ask parts department guy at the dealership for help. I have always had good experience with that approach: they can give you a pretty good idea if a component from a differently-optioned car will fit yours based on your options.

funny part is i called bmw dealership spoke to someone in parts, im going to go in and double check, i'll also check with another bmw dealership

Hayir · 03-29-2013, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DmitryF30

N-Y, I am not sure who quoted you $1,200 for this, but that price is not fair. The M-Performance shifter is similar in appearance is going for $180 MSRP (you can get it cheaper on Ebay) and according to Jason's post, it should take 0.3 hours to install: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783743
If M-peformance shifter can be installed on any automatic, I bet one can retrofit sport auto one in a non-sport auto.

I recommend you speak to a parts guy: unlike realoem.com, their database will actually tell you if a part can be retrofitted in your vehicle.

D.

As I understand m performance shifter only changes the trim on the lever. It is not the whole thing with leather. And it has different versions for sport automatic and automatic. it is not one fits for two of them. This is the one for regular automatic.

I would like to do this change. Sport auto was not avaliable with modern line. Ticher bmw lists the sport auto lever as $711. It is too much.

jzcrna · 03-29-2013, 08:35 AM

Why didn't you just get sport auto in the first place? That is always the first option on my list. The whole software mapping is different.

N-Y · 03-29-2013, 08:50 AM

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Why didn't you just get sport auto in the first place? That is always the first option on my list. The whole software mapping is different.

cause i bought the car slightly used, i got a great deal for it... if i would have bought it new from dealer i would have got that option

jzcrna · 03-29-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jzcrna

Why didn't you just get sport auto in the first place? That is always the first option on my list. The whole software mapping is different.

cause i bought the car slightly used, i got a great deal for it... if i would have bought it new from dealer i would have got that option

good reason. Sometimes after a great deal that happens lol.

I know I want to save money on options with my next car so I'm thinking of forgoing Nav,but I'll probably regret it.

OC40 · 03-29-2013, 09:25 AM

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good reason. Sometimes after a great deal that happens lol.

I know I want to save money on options with my next car so I'm thinking of forgoing Nav,but I'll probably regret it.

Highly recommend getting nav. I considered excluding nav on my 335 (although I really wanted HUD). I sold my 2010 TSX before the lease was up (had nav) and drove my fiance's car (without nav) on and off for about a month. While I rarely use nav, it was a PITA without it. Just my opinion.

sfiermon · 03-29-2013, 09:46 AM

So...the 2TB option...how does the car drive differently if at all? I am ordering one with the dynamic handling pkg...I currently DON"T have the sport auto option in there...what will this do???

FEE · 03-29-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sfiermon

So...the 2TB option...how does the car drive differently if at all? I am ordering one with the dynamic handling pkg...I currently DON"T have the sport auto option in there...what will this do???

The car doesn't drive any differently, 2TB just adds paddle shifters to the steering wheel and has a slightly different "stick"

sfiermon · 03-29-2013, 09:58 AM

Is it worth it?

03-27-2013, 05:11 PM	#1
N-Y First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 BMW 328i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa Posts: 335 iTrader: (0)	automatic stick. Featured on BIMMERPOST.com so from the this picture that i'm seeing on a 328i, it looks like I should be able to replace the stick on my car. i currently have the one on the left but want the one on the right... should it be an easy upgrade? plug n play type of upgrade?
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03-27-2013, 07:51 PM	#4
Yobyot Lieutenant Drives: MY12 F30 ZSL Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 476 iTrader: (0)	The shifter on the left is the standard 8sp AT shifter. It has a plastic boot. The shifter on the right comes with 2TB -- the sport AT. In US models, you can only add 2TB if you also order ZSL or ZML. BTW, the car you pictured looks like a ZML car without 2TB -- an abomination, IMHO. __________________ MY12 335i ZSL with a deep dive into the options list Produced: 2012-06-22 ED: 2012-07-19; Arrived in Jersey City: 2012-08-23 Redelivered: 2012-09-12

03-28-2013, 02:45 AM	#8
CoolDude196 . Drives: f30 20d Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: England Posts: 502 iTrader: (0)	I think you should be able to swap the part. The lever doesn't actually connect to the gearbox I don't think, it's drive by wire, right? So therefore, it wouldn't be that difficult to swap? Contact your dealer though to be sure __________________ AW 20d, 2tb, 552, lc, 397 plus others

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03-27-2013, 05:16 PM	#2
kromix Lieutenant Drives: '13 328i F30 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 474 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 328i (F30) [0.00]	interested. anyone know? i doubt its plug n play

03-27-2013, 07:54 PM	#5
N-Y First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 BMW 328i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa Posts: 335 iTrader: (0)	what is ZSL or ZML

03-27-2013, 08:21 PM	#7
N-Y First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 BMW 328i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa Posts: 335 iTrader: (0)	i just like the leather base, looks a lot better. i have a 2012 f30 sportline with M SPORT SUSPENSION, HIGH SPEED SYNCHRONISATION,

03-28-2013, 09:16 AM	#10
N-Y First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 BMW 328i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa Posts: 335 iTrader: (0)	apparently its like a $1200 job lol... i'm not a mechanic, but logically doesnt add up lol... its the same stick, functions the same way, but cosmetically looks different.

03-29-2013, 08:35 AM	#16
jzcrna Captain Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 752 iTrader: (0)	Why didn't you just get sport auto in the first place? That is always the first option on my list. The whole software mapping is different.

03-29-2013, 09:46 AM	#20
sfiermon Private First Class Drives: 2011 BMW 535xi Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Durham, NH Posts: 114 iTrader: (0)	So...the 2TB option...how does the car drive differently if at all? I am ordering one with the dynamic handling pkg...I currently DON"T have the sport auto option in there...what will this do???

03-29-2013, 09:58 AM	#22
sfiermon Private First Class Drives: 2011 BMW 535xi Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Durham, NH Posts: 114 iTrader: (0)	Is it worth it?