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      03-20-2013, 08:15 PM   #67
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Well that sucks, you basically have a useless USB cable now (until you upgrade to Stage 2). And, you can't data-log. I would email Terry and say what up with that?
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      03-20-2013, 08:19 PM   #68
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Well that sucks, you basically have a useless USB cable now (until you upgrade to Stage 2). And, you can't data-log. I would email Terry and say what up with that?
Basically. Only reason I ordered the cable was because I thought I could at least log, but it's useless with Stage 1 now apparently. Annoying part is the Stage 1 originally came with the cable you have previously as can be seen in the forum post picture of Stage 1 tuning...

I attached a pic on my previous post showing what it looks like. Basically identical to yours minus the connection for the cable.
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Strange, my Stage 2 had the female connector at the end of it for the usb or whatever could go there.... Don't worry about spending on the USB cable b/c you WILL upgrade to stage 2 and then you'll need it
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Strange, my Stage 2 had the female connector at the end of it for the usb or whatever could go there.... Don't worry about spending on the USB cable b/c you WILL upgrade to stage 2 and then you'll need it
You're probably right. Just a bummer they changed it to not have the connection on Stage 1 and/or wish they would've told me that when I ordered State 1 and a USB I can't use until/if I order Stage 2.

Guess there is less of a point of buying Stage 2 if you can adjust the boost on Stage 1.

Edit: Jon from BMS responded to my email saying:

"That is the correct box. USB support is not available for current stage 1 N55 boards. We would be happy to take the USB cable back if you send it to us. Sorry for the confusion.

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It was easy enough to change, but I don't have time to go driving right now. I'll report back in a day or two and let you know if I notice any difference.
It could just be mental, or maybe even the cooler weather, but I feel like I did feel a difference in acceleration today with the +4psi. Either way, the car feels good and I really don't see a downside to adding the half psi bump.
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It could just be mental, or maybe even the cooler weather, but I feel like I did feel a difference in acceleration today with the +4psi. Either way, the car feels good and I really don't see a downside to adding the half psi bump.
Good for you! I wouldn't expect to feel a noticeable difference but I'm sure it's there.

Now I am going to wrestle with the idea of going to stage 2... I mean I can't have this usb cable that is unusable right??
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That's strange... i JUST received my stage 1 yesterday and installed it. I remember the end of mine looking like the first picture. Does this mean i can just buy the USB cable and customize the PSI on my N55 335i?
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That's strange... i JUST received my stage 1 yesterday and installed it. I remember the end of mine looking like the first picture. Does this mean i can just buy the USB cable and customize the PSI on my N55 335i?
Yep, you just need the JB3 software interface and then once connected you can change the boost over stock to 4. Only recommended for 93 octane though.

I, unfortunately, ran over a big screw today, so now the car's just chillin in the garage. :
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That's strange... i JUST received my stage 1 yesterday and installed it. I remember the end of mine looking like the first picture. Does this mean i can just buy the USB cable and customize the PSI on my N55 335i?
Oh I got shafted or you got lucky! With mine and what they mean to send with N55 stage 1's, doesnt let you hook up or do any customization. Looks like if you get the usb you can download the software and have at it. I also wonder if you can connect the CAN wires and upload stage 2 software!?

I'd be interested to know if there is a difference between the two boxes other than the software and the wired connections.

That is the only reason I could think of why they would switch to the box without the connector (so people couldnt just have a stage 2 without paying for it since the software is free)

Terry said "The Stage1 was changed a few weeks ago so that no user adjustment can
be made. That will be reserved for Stage2."


I knew I should've ordered it last month!
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I know the boards are diff between stage 1 & 2, so you can't just upload software to go stage 2.

I'll gladly let you order stage two & check out the install before I order mine, haha.
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I know the boards are diff between stage 1 & 2, so you can't just upload software to go stage 2.

I'll gladly let you order stage two & check out the install before I order mine, haha.
Wow, so thoughtful! Best deal ever lol

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Well, if it's just a software difference, i'm pretty sure there's a way to just upload it. There shouldn't be much of a hardware difference unless there's additional plugs compared to the stage 1... is there??
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Well, if it's just a software difference, i'm pretty sure there's a way to just upload it. There shouldn't be much of a hardware difference unless there's additional plugs compared to the stage 1... is there??
It's a whole different board internally.
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Right, board wise it would be different if there were additional cables and such but if the input/ output of the hardware is the same, the only difference that could be different is the software that's in the box
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Right, board wise it would be different if there were additional cables and such but if the input/ output of the hardware is the same, the only difference that could be different is the software that's in the box
That seems fairly logical, but they say it wont work. Not sure the specifics other than 'the stage 2 is a completely different box than stage 1'. (that's what terry said when i pointed out they just shipped a box with the usb connection for stage 1 after he told me they weren't doing that anymore and that's why mine doesnt have it)

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Quick questions.
1. are there any extra cables that ships out with stage 2?
2. are there any extra cables we need to plug in?
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Quick questions.
1. are there any extra cables that ships out with stage 2?
2. are there any extra cables we need to plug in?
Just the CAN connections, power, and ground (the 'extra' wires that you don't use in stage 1). I think with stage 2 they give you a different box and the other end of the connections for the extra wires. That's just from looking at the stage 2 instructions though. Seems you just swap the control module with the stage 2 version and connect the extra wires.
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i was always wondering if there was a power source and i guess it's in the stage 2. I'm assuming that with the power and ground that it is in fact a separate hardware that needs power whereas the stage 1 doesn't.
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Btw, are the times posted with Sport + on or off? totally forgot about Sport + mode since the install and today i realized it and turned it on. Even with stage 1, this car is freakishly fast
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Just did a couple runs in anticipation of installing my stage 1 (probably tomorrow). Unfortunately, it looks like the weather will be terrible. It rained half the day today so the roads were moist but fairly dry.

I don't have a good setup to hold my camera to record so I couldn't do a real run using the paddle shifters so the car did its thing and shifted later than I'd like, but I figure it's a good baseline.

Looks like, at least in the conditions today with my stock runflats, times are a bit faster without brake boosting over 2k. I got too much wheel spin when I brake boosted that high, better was about 1.8k. You can see the traction control kicking in and holding me down like the man.

My tires weren't exactly warm so maybe that hurt them hooking up, and the fact that they're the stock runflats.

Looks like with wheelspin I got around 5 seconds and around 4.8 without brake boosting much at all. Very unscientific obviously since I watched the video and used my phone as stop watch over and over.

Anyway...



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