Battle of the Hybrids! (AH3 and other hybrid 1/4 mile times) - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

zon · 01-15-2013, 01:51 AM

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Decided to have some fun with all the youtube videos, and see how the AH3 stacks up against the other hybrids. Many thanks to my wifey for the help!

Procedure:
-Save the videos and import them into moviemaker
-Determine time it takes to various speeds
-Back out the quarter mile times

Take it for what it's worth, maybe with a big grain of salt.
-Weather and road conditions would've been different for the different cars.
-Different drivers.
-Battery level, at least on the Infiniti, was low. Didn't see level, and didn't look too hard on the Lexus. The BMWs seemed to have fully charged batteries.
-Didn't pay too much attention if everyone had traction disabled etc. At least no one used any sort of launch control.
-Some errors could've crept in due to parallax when I read the speedo on the video.
-Method is susceptible to errors in video playback speed. I don't think this is much of an issue in modern digital cameras.

These are the videos used:

AH3

AH5

GS-450h

M35h:

I'm happy to see the AH3 come out on top, though that's what I expected. (Promise, I didn't fudge the numbers!)

With aggressive launch techniques that magazines use, this thing could post some amazing times.

0-60 mph is pretty much in line with what BMW publishes. 1/4 mile time and trap speed are impressive!

shivaswrath · 01-15-2013, 08:21 AM

13's for a .25 mile?

Boosted John · 01-15-2013, 09:07 AM

sweeeeet!!!!!!!

pkim1079 · 01-15-2013, 10:22 AM

Yeah but can it turn with all that weight on its corners? There is an ah3 at my work. It even has the sports emblems on the side.

kpjo4 · 01-20-2013, 11:46 AM

damn, some quick ass hybrids

3s-a-charm · 01-20-2013, 12:01 PM

Did that Lexus have a CVT transmission? I still can't get used to that...

Lemon Jelly M3 · 01-20-2013, 12:52 PM

BMW wants to dominate the performance-hybrid category.
Those are some quick numbers.

xDrive35i · 01-20-2013, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

Did that Lexus have a CVT transmission? I still can't get used to that...

Agreed. CVTs are not in keeping with the fundamentals of luxury cars. Instead of simulating gears, these transmissions should run through real gears with continuously variable ratios. The idea of one variable gear doesn't sit well with me.

BMWags · 01-20-2013, 02:24 PM

Very cool idea. Thanks for compiling this. Pretty impressive regardless if it wasn't a 100% laboratory controlled test.

jdong · 01-20-2013, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juddholland

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

Did that Lexus have a CVT transmission? I still can't get used to that...

Agreed. CVTs are not in keeping with the fundamentals of luxury cars. Instead of simulating gears, these transmissions should run through real gears with continuously variable ratios. The idea of one variable gear doesn't sit well with me.

That sounds like what the old AH (X6) and the GM 2 Mode Hybrid SUVs did. The motor-generators and engine are fed into a 4spd transmission that has a CVT at the end, so that during electric driving the CVT can act as an engine speed reducer... Reviews still panned it for being a slush box though at least in GM's implementation it was nearly a 50% improvement in city MPG.

vladberca · 01-20-2013, 03:31 PM

Very good numbers for AH3

MSPORTWORLD · 01-21-2013, 09:42 AM

Cool bit of work you've done here

01-15-2013, 01:51 AM	#1
zon New Member Drives: EBII Active Hybrid 3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 14 iTrader: (0)	Battle of the Hybrids! (AH3 and other hybrid 1/4 mile times) Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Decided to have some fun with all the youtube videos, and see how the AH3 stacks up against the other hybrids. Many thanks to my wifey for the help! Procedure: -Save the videos and import them into moviemaker -Determine time it takes to various speeds -Back out the quarter mile times Take it for what it's worth, maybe with a big grain of salt. -Weather and road conditions would've been different for the different cars. -Different drivers. -Battery level, at least on the Infiniti, was low. Didn't see level, and didn't look too hard on the Lexus. The BMWs seemed to have fully charged batteries. -Didn't pay too much attention if everyone had traction disabled etc. At least no one used any sort of launch control. -Some errors could've crept in due to parallax when I read the speedo on the video. -Method is susceptible to errors in video playback speed. I don't think this is much of an issue in modern digital cameras. These are the videos used: AH3 AH5 GS-450h M35h: I'm happy to see the AH3 come out on top, though that's what I expected. (Promise, I didn't fudge the numbers!) With aggressive launch techniques that magazines use, this thing could post some amazing times. 0-60 mph is pretty much in line with what BMW publishes. 1/4 mile time and trap speed are impressive! Attached Images Last edited by zon; 01-16-2013 at 02:39 PM.
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kpjo4 Jo Who? JOYU! Drives: 2010 335ic Crimson Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Centex Posts: 158 iTrader: (1)	damn, some quick ass hybrids

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Lemon Jelly M3 Lieutenant Drives: M3 (E90,ZCP,6MT) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 454 iTrader: (0)	BMW wants to dominate the performance-hybrid category. Those are some quick numbers.

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BMWags New Member Drives: 325i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Alberta Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	Very cool idea. Thanks for compiling this. Pretty impressive regardless if it wasn't a 100% laboratory controlled test.

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