Rumor: BMW 4 Series Price Projected to be Just Over 2000 Euros More Than 3 Series - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

OverDriven · 12-06-2012, 03:33 PM

My question is this: what is with all the talk in the BMW press release of the 4 coupe being more "exclusive"? The word is used several times, and we all know "exclusive" is another word for "expensive". They really made it seem like the 4 coupe was going to be A LOT more expensive than the 3 sedan. I'm wondering what is with the choice of words if it's really not much more expensive at all.

S65NAPWR · 12-06-2012, 03:36 PM

This might be a reaction to the current conditions in the European market (so slow they diverted 25% of inventory to US/NoAm). They have to be more competitive to ensure they make volume for a new model / completely new series. I expect prices then to be higher on 4er options to make it up.

aceking4u · 12-06-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Jelly M3

Reasonable? It's a bargain!

With the way the A4 looks compared to an A5...I agree its a bargain =)

Antares · 12-06-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

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"Now the advent of the 4er is here and aims to bring a more upmarket perspective to the 3er line. The 4er (in Germany ) is projected at just over euro 2000 more than the equivalent 3er Sedan."

For reference, at today's conversion rate, 2000 euro is equivalent to $2,618 USD. To put this rumor into perspective, for the 2011 model year, the E92 335i coupe's base price was $2,050 higher than the E90 335i sedan.

So, if Scott's projection proves true, we are possibly looking at a premium for the 4 Series over the 3 Series in the high-$2000 to lower-$3000 range, a not unreasonable increase over the price difference between the previous generation 3 series coupe and sedan.

As with all rumors and unofficial info, take it with a grain of salt, but we hope this to be true, so for now keep your fingers crossed.

The 4er Coupe goes to German customers one year from now; autumn or fall(USAterm) of 2013.
Any discussion about prices is therefore pure speculation.
Any talk about prices is therefore without any real base.

W/// · 12-06-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HoundForHire

haven't understood why this was a big deal. the current e92 was more expensive than the previous e90...

Because there were idiots that thought, and I quote, that the F32 was going to be $10-15k more than the equivalent F10.

SCOTT26 · 12-06-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Antares

The 4er Coupe goes to German customers one year from now; autumn or fall(USAterm) of 2013.
Any discussion about prices is therefore pure speculation.
Any talk about prices is therefore without any real base.

Which is why I put "projected".

Ka razy · 12-06-2012, 03:46 PM

This is sounding good. Just hope the exhaust doesn't really come out looking like this concept.

Antares · 12-06-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Which is why I put "projected".

One year is a very long time in automotive industry, especially in the middle of the European financial storm, USA has a "financial cliff" and Chinese depend from both markets.

Also inside BMW there are many things that will need attention.
Not to mention, that some people are probably going to seek new challenges somewhere else (to put it kindly).

aceking4u · 12-06-2012, 03:56 PM

Rumors has it it should be out by Summer 2013 (U.S). I can't wait. Would love to do ED by then.

Roki_014 · 12-06-2012, 03:57 PM

wow great news, so only like 3000 extra plus maybe more hp , great news

Antares · 12-06-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aceking4u

Rumors has it it should be out by Summer 2013 (U.S). I can't wait. Would love to do ED by then.

NO CHANCE.
German customers get the car a little less than one year from now.

Jblack4083 · 12-06-2012, 03:58 PM

Even though Euro pricing really means nothing... I'm still not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch over the price. BMW is a business and would never price themselves out of the market. They still have to compete with the A5, C-Class Coupe, Cayman, G37, etc... Expect the pricing to be competitive with those cars. Maybe not less than all of them but still competitive.

宝马.e90 · 12-06-2012, 04:13 PM

It's not really a fair comparison because costs usually go down as you go up the line up (3er to 5er) but the price estimates for the F10 M5 were pretty much on par and even in some cases, positive because it was as much or cheaper than the E60 M5.

While we all thought the the idea of the 4er was charge an even greater premium then what the E92 was over the E90, it shouldn't be that big of a surprise if BMW kept the same or similar price structure for the F30/F32. The only question is how much more expensive will it be to add on those options found on the Concept if they do exist. That's where BMW is probably planning on banking the money.

Blindside_137 · 12-06-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HoundForHire

haven't understood why this was a big deal. the current e92 was more expensive than the previous e90...

bingo, not a big deal

Black_Raider · 12-06-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

I thought the whole point of creating the 4er was to charge more for it. Weird.

No, the point is to attract different types of customers, for example my father would always go for the F30 over F32

aajami · 12-06-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OverDriven

I highly doubt that.

You highly doubt what? Math? The price difference between an E90 and E92 is $2,050. The rumored price difference between an F30 and F32 is $2,618. The delta between the difference from the old generation to the new is $568, which is a 30% increase in the delta if the rumor holds to be true.

soolman32 · 12-06-2012, 04:28 PM

If that's all they charge in premium, count me in. Though I'd still want to see the gran coupe version.

clarence · 12-06-2012, 04:34 PM

I think they don't want to repeat their pricing mistake with the 6er. It has literally priced itself out of the market.
Don't forget the F32's competitors include not only Audi A5, but also Mercedes C-class coupe.

UAM951 · 12-06-2012, 04:41 PM

damn thats good.

Never Convicted · 12-06-2012, 04:44 PM

If they price it too high, they'll start running into price points of the 5 Series. It's really nothing to worry about. They know better.

Vector Pilot · 12-06-2012, 04:52 PM

As I mentioned in another post the projected price increase is reasonable and the projected launch date for North America as of now to be sometime late summer 2013 also sounds reasonable. If the projections are incorrect, BMW will have:
1. Overpriced the F32
2. Will lose all the free press coverage it now enjoys and will have the added cost of reintroducing the car at a later date.

catalyst · 12-06-2012, 05:02 PM

I was one of the enthralled yesterday, but I was also one of the ones expecting a massive price increase.

If it is really only this modest increase over the F30, SIGN ME UP. My lease is up next September, so I could slide into one of these no problem. I had already starting building out an F30, sadly, having seen these concept pics. Scott's guidance suggest this will be my next car.

12-06-2012, 03:36 PM	#24
S65NAPWR Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tri-State Posts: 555 iTrader: (0)	This might be a reaction to the current conditions in the European market (so slow they diverted 25% of inventory to US/NoAm). They have to be more competitive to ensure they make volume for a new model / completely new series. I expect prices then to be higher on 4er options to make it up. __________________

12-06-2012, 03:46 PM	#29
Ka razy Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 BMW 335I xDrive Coupe 6MT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Heaven on Earth... Coeur d' Alene, Idaho Posts: 223 iTrader: (0)	This is sounding good. Just hope the exhaust doesn't really come out looking like this concept. __________________ 2011 BMW 335I xDrive Coupe M pagkage, 6MT 2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure Retired- 04 BMW Z4, 01 K1200RS, 00 R1150GS Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the Soul!

12-06-2012, 04:52 PM	#43
Vector Pilot First Lieutenant Drives: 2014 Z4 28i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Metro Posts: 353 iTrader: (0)	As I mentioned in another post the projected price increase is reasonable and the projected launch date for North America as of now to be sometime late summer 2013 also sounds reasonable. If the projections are incorrect, BMW will have: 1. Overpriced the F32 2. Will lose all the free press coverage it now enjoys and will have the added cost of reintroducing the car at a later date. __________________ 2011 E92 335i + 2011 E89 35i

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12-06-2012, 03:33 PM	#23
OverDriven Private First Class Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 120 iTrader: (0)	My question is this: what is with all the talk in the BMW press release of the 4 coupe being more "exclusive"? The word is used several times, and we all know "exclusive" is another word for "expensive". They really made it seem like the 4 coupe was going to be A LOT more expensive than the 3 sedan. I'm wondering what is with the choice of words if it's really not much more expensive at all.

12-06-2012, 03:56 PM	#31
aceking4u Private First Class Drives: C350 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 101 iTrader: (0)	Rumors has it it should be out by Summer 2013 (U.S). I can't wait. Would love to do ED by then.

12-06-2012, 03:57 PM	#32
Roki_014 Captain Drives: 2013 335I M-Sport EBII Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: chicago Posts: 757 iTrader: (0)	wow great news, so only like 3000 extra plus maybe more hp , great news

12-06-2012, 03:58 PM	#34
Jblack4083 Captain Drives: E46 ///M3 JB/CB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Queens, NYC Posts: 676 iTrader: (0)	Even though Euro pricing really means nothing... I'm still not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch over the price. BMW is a business and would never price themselves out of the market. They still have to compete with the A5, C-Class Coupe, Cayman, G37, etc... Expect the pricing to be competitive with those cars. Maybe not less than all of them but still competitive.

12-06-2012, 04:13 PM	#35
宝马.e90 Major Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,273 iTrader: (0)	It's not really a fair comparison because costs usually go down as you go up the line up (3er to 5er) but the price estimates for the F10 M5 were pretty much on par and even in some cases, positive because it was as much or cheaper than the E60 M5. While we all thought the the idea of the 4er was charge an even greater premium then what the E92 was over the E90, it shouldn't be that big of a surprise if BMW kept the same or similar price structure for the F30/F32. The only question is how much more expensive will it be to add on those options found on the Concept if they do exist. That's where BMW is probably planning on banking the money.

12-06-2012, 04:28 PM	#39
soolman32 Private First Class Drives: Current: G37 / Soon: F30 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Posts: 157 iTrader: (0)	If that's all they charge in premium, count me in. Though I'd still want to see the gran coupe version.

12-06-2012, 04:34 PM	#40
clarence Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 328i M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,545 iTrader: (0)	I think they don't want to repeat their pricing mistake with the 6er. It has literally priced itself out of the market. Don't forget the F32's competitors include not only Audi A5, but also Mercedes C-class coupe.

12-06-2012, 04:41 PM	#41
UAM951 Lieutenant Drives: F10 535i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 471 iTrader: (1)	damn thats good.

12-06-2012, 04:44 PM	#42
Never Convicted Private First Class Drives: 2010 M3 E92 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 157 iTrader: (0)	If they price it too high, they'll start running into price points of the 5 Series. It's really nothing to worry about. They know better.

12-06-2012, 05:02 PM	#44
catalyst Private Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NC Posts: 93 iTrader: (0)	I was one of the enthralled yesterday, but I was also one of the ones expecting a massive price increase. If it is really only this modest increase over the F30, SIGN ME UP. My lease is up next September, so I could slide into one of these no problem. I had already starting building out an F30, sadly, having seen these concept pics. Scott's guidance suggest this will be my next car.