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bimmerjph · 12-06-2012, 11:02 AM

I wish it had a shorter wheel base than the sedan. Like the 6er does vs the 5er.

Since its 0.7 inches longer with the same wheelbase how much has unsprung weight been increased?

I also hope the price percent difference isn't insane like it is in the 6er.

I do applaud BMW for giving the concept a manual though. For a while it seems like they only have been putting automatics/smg/dct into their show cars.

Diver · 12-06-2012, 11:12 AM

The rear of the coupe is kind of rad.

byunts · 12-06-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NN5`

Excuse my crude drawing. The were exposed to the same mutagen.

Lol

M_Power_Fan · 12-06-2012, 11:51 AM

this coupe looks so amazing i cant find words for it - absolute stunning !!!

BMW-RaceR · 12-06-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NN5`º

Excuse my crude drawing. The were exposed to the same mutagen.

hahahaha..

BXL4 · 12-06-2012, 12:01 PM

Anyone care to offer an informed opinion as to the amount of lost headroom that will accompany the lower, sleeker 4 vs. the 3?

I LOVE the look of this coupe but have a long torso and really don't have headroom to spare on the 3.

Thanks to all.

gunnerxq · 12-06-2012, 12:02 PM

Are the vents on the side of the 4 series functional?

ZMM_OMG · 12-06-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NN5`º

Excuse my crude drawing. The were exposed to the same mutagen.

LMAO! Awesome. I nominate this for post of the day!

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Originally Posted by shicobico

Any chance we can work on a side-by-side 4 and 6 concept comparo? That would be more direct.

+1. In terms of how the concept will look when it shifts to production, I think we can garner a lot from: 1) The previously-posted spy pics of the F32, and 2) The 6er, especially around the LED headlights and taillights.

Imola.ZHP · 12-06-2012, 12:18 PM

Is the lower roofline not just due to the lower suspension?

Come on guys, even M3's have monster wheel gap. Look for the 4er to return to a proper BMW off-road height at production. My guess is at least 2" higher...

cncmastr · 12-06-2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NN5`º

Excuse my crude drawing. The were exposed to the same mutagen.

yuyue · 12-06-2012, 12:30 PM

parts above bumpers, perfect
bumpers are too complicated... I can see BMW used some design cues from i8, but to my eye, they do not blend in... hopefully this only stays with the concept.

yuyue · 12-06-2012, 12:32 PM

okay... that front bumper grill reminds me Kia

buckeyede06 · 12-06-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Dot

The lower roof line appears to be a LOT more than the 2.7 inches - it makes a dramatic difference to the sportiness.

The taillights are fantastic, as is the sharper crease on the top of the trunk (instead of the double-crease).

And the more aggressive rear fenders are all win.

Awesome.

The interior will be the same, essentially, once stripped of all that individual crap. Though I notice the temperature dial is gone - good riddance!

I'm a huge fan of this new style.

Completely agree!

r3dbimmer89 · 12-06-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bosz

I hope the 4 has LED turn signals...if it does I think ill switch!

It's going to have full LED headlights like the 6er as an option so I'm sure it's going to have at least had LED turn signals standard.

r3dbimmer89 · 12-06-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by yuyue

parts above bumpers, perfect
bumpers are too complicated... I can see BMW used some design cues from i8, but to my eye, they do not blend in... hopefully this only stays with the concept.

It's 90% of the production model

roadmax · 12-06-2012, 12:58 PM

Question is how exact and close to this concept will the actual 4 production series be??
This concept model has lots of cool stuff: wide and low stance, perfectly executed H kink, headlights and taillights, matching front and rear bumpers, side rear view mirrors new design, door handles flat with door surface (finally BMW is back to this since E36 cars).
Me not like: interior design in general, engine hood is too high compared to other proportions of the car, side fender air slot position and design.
Would like to see the front fog lights (or whatever they named them) turned on and see what visual lighting effect they give as they are positioned in a very interesting way deep into the bumper.

S-Dot · 12-06-2012, 01:05 PM

The interior design shown is some godawful BMW Individual scheme concept.

"Bad Acid Trip" I believe would be an appropriate name for that interior choice. Some sorta ridiculous 70's western braided crap.

Peel off that crap, and you'll see the F30 interior more or less exactly.

I would expect the sheet metal to be pretty much the finished work. I would expect reworking of the lower fascia front and rear to something closer to what they've shown on the F30's already (though probably updated lines and more aggressive), plus some sub-20" wheels.

And probably taller mirrors.

Not sure if those door handles will survive to production, sadly.

s2kroma · 12-06-2012, 01:10 PM

Makes you think twice now after seeing those pictures for the new 4. Now I am not sure if I want to order 2013 M3 or just wait for the new 4 to come out???

S-Dot · 12-06-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Imola.ZHP

Is the lower roofline not just due to the lower suspension?
...

To me, there appears to be much less distance from the waistline to the roofline when comparing the side by side shots.

I completely agree that the production model will have a more real-world suspension design, though I'm thinking those 20" wheels and tires on the concept also may be over-stuffing the wheel wells to some extent (don't know the tire size).

It's possible that this stance may not be far off from an available lowered "sport" or "MSport" suspension, given that this concept shows MSport-style side skirts, and it just looks more snug due to oversized wheels and tires... But that's admittedly optimistic.

bosz · 12-06-2012, 01:27 PM

i swear our F30s already look dated. If this thing truly has LED lights and the head lamps will look like that, I may actually switch 'er up !

Maz335i · 12-06-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bosz

i swear our F30s already look dated. If this thing truly has LED lights and the head lamps will look like that, I may actually switch 'er up !

Bro,

I'm with you! I'm seriously thinking of "upgrading"...I love the front and rear of this car.

This is an excellent change and will definitely take a huge chunk of the market share.

Maybe we should go to the same dealer regarding the trade-in?

nenadbogar · 12-06-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ndukyh

So where's the shark fin? Do concepts usually not have it?

hehe good catch. i didnt notice that at all

12-06-2012, 11:12 AM	#24
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12-06-2012, 12:01 PM	#28
BXL4 Private Drives: 1999 ML320 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bainbridge Island WA Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	Lower=less headroom? Anyone care to offer an informed opinion as to the amount of lost headroom that will accompany the lower, sleeker 4 vs. the 3? I LOVE the look of this coupe but have a long torso and really don't have headroom to spare on the 3. Thanks to all.

12-06-2012, 12:02 PM	#29
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Imola.ZHP 100% PAID FOR! Drives: 2003 BMW 330i ZHP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mud Island, TN Posts: 1,806 iTrader: (0)	Is the lower roofline not just due to the lower suspension? Come on guys, even M3's have monster wheel gap. Look for the 4er to return to a proper BMW off-road height at production. My guess is at least 2" higher... __________________ -- '03 330i ZHP -- Marcus

12-06-2012, 01:27 PM	#42
bosz Lieutenant Drives: F30 335i Ordered Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: toronto Posts: 567 iTrader: (0)	i swear our F30s already look dated. If this thing truly has LED lights and the head lamps will look like that, I may actually switch 'er up ! __________________ JB Stage 1 2012 F30 335i/BSM/Coral Red Interior/Diamond Black Trim/Premium Pack/BMW Apps/Ext Blue Tooth/Sirius XM/Sport Auto W/Paddle Shifters/Sport Suspension

12-06-2012, 11:02 AM	#23
bimmerjph Major Drives: 2002 BMW 325i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,403 iTrader: (0)	I wish it had a shorter wheel base than the sedan. Like the 6er does vs the 5er. Since its 0.7 inches longer with the same wheelbase how much has unsprung weight been increased? I also hope the price percent difference isn't insane like it is in the 6er. I do applaud BMW for giving the concept a manual though. For a while it seems like they only have been putting automatics/smg/dct into their show cars.

12-06-2012, 11:51 AM	#26
M_Power_Fan Private Drives: the Ring Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 79 iTrader: (0)	this coupe looks so amazing i cant find words for it - absolute stunning !!!

12-06-2012, 12:30 PM	#33
yuyue First Lieutenant Drives: 08' 328i E90 MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: LA, CA Posts: 326 iTrader: (5)	parts above bumpers, perfect bumpers are too complicated... I can see BMW used some design cues from i8, but to my eye, they do not blend in... hopefully this only stays with the concept.

12-06-2012, 12:32 PM	#34
yuyue First Lieutenant Drives: 08' 328i E90 MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: LA, CA Posts: 326 iTrader: (5)	okay... that front bumper grill reminds me Kia

12-06-2012, 12:58 PM	#38
roadmax Private First Class Drives: M3 Coupe Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Posts: 101 iTrader: (2)	Question is how exact and close to this concept will the actual 4 production series be?? This concept model has lots of cool stuff: wide and low stance, perfectly executed H kink, headlights and taillights, matching front and rear bumpers, side rear view mirrors new design, door handles flat with door surface (finally BMW is back to this since E36 cars). Me not like: interior design in general, engine hood is too high compared to other proportions of the car, side fender air slot position and design. Would like to see the front fog lights (or whatever they named them) turned on and see what visual lighting effect they give as they are positioned in a very interesting way deep into the bumper.

12-06-2012, 01:05 PM	#39
S-Dot Private First Class Drives: 2013 328i xDrive Luxury Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: near Calgary Posts: 121 iTrader: (0)	The interior design shown is some godawful BMW Individual scheme concept. "Bad Acid Trip" I believe would be an appropriate name for that interior choice. Some sorta ridiculous 70's western braided crap. Peel off that crap, and you'll see the F30 interior more or less exactly. I would expect the sheet metal to be pretty much the finished work. I would expect reworking of the lower fascia front and rear to something closer to what they've shown on the F30's already (though probably updated lines and more aggressive), plus some sub-20" wheels. And probably taller mirrors. Not sure if those door handles will survive to production, sadly.

12-06-2012, 01:10 PM	#40
s2kroma Second Lieutenant Drives: '05 S2k '12 Passat '13 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 240 iTrader: (0)	Makes you think twice now after seeing those pictures for the new 4. Now I am not sure if I want to order 2013 M3 or just wait for the new 4 to come out???

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