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      10-28-2013, 12:29 AM   #23
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The rotors are lighter with the M performance setup...
Are you sure? They felt about the same as my OEM rotors. I'm curious now.
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      10-28-2013, 07:21 AM   #24
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Do you have any documentation showing weights?
34 11 6 792 223 Standard rotor 340x30mm
10.07 Kilogramm / 22.2 Pounds

34 10 6 797 602 Slotted/drilled rotor 340x30mm
10.03 Kilogramm / 22.1 Pounds

34 10 6 797 606 Standard rotor 370x30mm (S2NHA Standard rotor for 335i)
16.50 Kilogramm / 36.4 Pounds

34 10 6 797 603 Slotted/drilled rotor 370x30mm (S2NHA Upgrade rotor or Standard 18" M Perfomance Brake rotor)
11.88 Kilogramm / 26.2 Pounds

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that 10.2lbs will affect performance ? :s
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that 10.2lbs will affect performance ? :s
That 10.2lbs not, but saving another 10.2lbs on the other front side and saving about 50lbs on the wheels will count up.
So the total of all savings will affect performance....
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that 10.2lbs will affect performance ? :s
Reducing unsprung weight is always a good thing, but I didn't feel a 10 lb. difference between the front rotors. I think I want to weigh them now. The OEM rotors are pretty heavy though.

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If you're experiencing fade on the street, you're doing it wrong. ;-)
Not always. If you're pulling a Trailer and drive down the alp pass streets, brake faiding can easily occure on most stock brakes.
If the driver does not shift back to lower gears for using engine brake.
But engine brake on turbo engines is not very effective compared to regular aspirated engines. So with the F30, you better have fading resistant brakes in those situations!
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That 10.2lbs not, but saving another 10.2lbs on the other front side and saving about 50lbs on the wheels will count up.
So the total of all savings will affect performance....
+1. 10lbs is a lot of rotating mass. There's some multiple, at least with wheels, that will tell you the effective difference in curb weight. I think it's 5-10lbs per pound, but someone should correct me.

Also the calipers are very light. I was shocked when I picked one up. No numbers, sorry. I haven't personally seen 335 M-sport brakes, but the M-performance calipers seem very rounded and hollow. As if they hold more fluid.
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Not always. If you're pulling a Trailer and drive down the alp pass streets, brake faiding can easily occure on most stock brakes.
If the driver does not shift back to lower gears for using engine brake.
But engine brake on turbo engines is not very effective compared to regular aspirated engines. So with the F30, you better have fading resistant brakes in those situations!
I agree with you taking your location into consideration. Here in the US, it's a completely different world. You'll NEVER see someone towing here in the US as you will on your side of the Atlantic. We also aren't blessed with anything even remotely close to the Alps...
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+1. 10lbs is a lot of rotating mass. There's some multiple, at least with wheels, that will tell you the effective difference in curb weight. I think it's 5-10lbs per pound, but someone should correct me.

Also the calipers are very light. I was shocked when I picked one up. No numbers, sorry. I haven't personally seen 335 M-sport brakes, but the M-performance calipers seem very rounded and hollow. As if they hold more fluid.

Damn, I wish that I had weighed my M-Performance calipers/rotors before I had them installed. With that said, the front calipers of the M-Sport/M-Performance brake upgrade are the same as the OEM 2014 335i M-Package brakes, so there was really no gain there except for the front rotors/pads and the aesthetic appeal of gold calipers with ///M logos..
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[quote=ronin951;14885536Also the calipers are very light. I was shocked when I picked one up. No numbers, sorry. I haven't personally seen 335 M-sport brakes, but the M-performance calipers seem very rounded and hollow. As if they hold more fluid.[/QUOTE]

Online Datasheet says they are both 8lbs per caliper.
Original caliper (with 340x30mm rotor) and M Performance Brake caliper (with 370x30mm rotor)
Front Brake pads for M Perfomance Brakes are a bit less. But Peanuts.
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Online Datasheet says they are both 8lbs per caliper.
Original caliper (with 340x30mm rotor) and M Performance Brake caliper (with 370x30mm rotor)
Front Brake pads for M Perfomance Brakes are a bit less. But Peanuts.
They've come a long way then. I recently sold a set of e46 M3 ZCP calipers and they were heavy as hell.
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