First Look at F30 Alpina B3 in Development - Page 3 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

dd1981 · 08-10-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by positiveions

400 ponies and it is warranted by BMW; i'll take that.

Hell yeah! I like what Im reading so far on the basis if they are able to tune the f30 to 400 hp, the aftermarket tuners are bound to figure it out and follow suit. At least I hope that we will be able to get a tune that puts us relatively close to 400hp. I would be very happy with 370-380hp

lfelunden · 08-10-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

I choose an Alpina B3 over a M3 even though the M3 would be cheaper!

1. Exclusivity, worldwide there are less than 370 B3 BT worldwide!
2. More economical to run
3. Pay only 1/2 road tax compared to a M3 due to Alpina being classed as a small car manufacture
4. Unique colour ( Alpina blue and Alpina Green)
5. Performance more torque than an M3 (same as a 3 litre diesel!)
6. Lighter than an M3 (0-62mph in 4.7 sec)
7. It’s not shouting am a M3!
8. Creates less unwanted attraction
9. Bespoke interior to customers’ requirements
10. Resell value similar / to better to an M3 for the above reasons
11. Ride quality Alpina's own specification

I could go on!

I confess I not sure on the saloon design, really hope that the coupe looks like a small 6 series!

Check my link on my sig for proven performance

.. Unique car manufacturer it is !

Malbolge · 08-10-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by msellars

why would someone in Europe buy this over an M3? I understand the market for the B7 but I'm not familiar with the B3. Cheaper?

Because its probably better car to live with on daily basis and it performs better off track too. Cheaper too.

Estoril Sport · 08-10-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

Try PXing your new one and see whats offered, but be sitting down

I do not intend to part exchange

part exchange prices are always bad. I was offered 6,000 from the dealer on my previous car sold it privately for 10,500

Malbolge · 08-11-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

I do not intend to part exchange

part exchange prices are always bad. I was offered 6,000 from the dealer on my previous car sold it privately for 10,500

nice car you go there!

schnell13 · 08-11-2012, 03:24 AM

Remember that Alpina is classified as a builder, not a tuner, in Germany. What they do is basically get a complete, albeit not assembled, BMW from Munich then change up just about everything. The motor, body, suspension and interior are all upgraded all at once at their factory. So, with Alpina, it's a full custom treatment on your car. Hence the 'B' designators. Not sure why they picked the letter B, but a BMW 3,5,6,7 etc. becomes an Alpina B3, B5, B6, B7, etc as it's a totally different car at that point. And while I'm not a huge fan of the wolverine wheels, their multi-spoke wheel with the integral valve stem, as seen on the late-model Alpina B7, is absolutely stunning.

Malbolge · 08-11-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by schnell13

Remember that Alpina is classified as a builder, not a tuner, in Germany. What they do is basically get a complete, albeit not assembled, BMW from Munich then change up just about everything. The motor, body, suspension and interior are all upgraded all at once at their factory. So, with Alpina, it's a full custom treatment on your car. Hence the 'B' designators. Not sure why they picked the letter B, but a BMW 3,5,6,7 etc. becomes an Alpina B3, B5, B6, B7, etc as it's a totally different car at that point. And while I'm not a huge fan of the wolverine wheels, their multi-spoke wheel with the integral valve stem, as seen on the late-model Alpina B7, is absolutely stunning.

I think B stands for Bovenseipen (last name of the founder of the company) or even Buhloe (where they are built). But pretty sure it's after Bovenseipen. Ntothing to do with B version or whatever. They also have D cars for diesel models.

Robin_NL · 08-11-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by research

I think B stands for Bovenseipen (last name of the founder of the company) or even Buhloe (where they are built). But pretty sure it's after Bovenseipen. Ntothing to do with B version or whatever. They also have D cars for diesel models.

That would mean B stands for Benzin(gasoline/petrol)? And D for Diesel.

His name is Burkard BovensIEpen and the town is BuChloe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpina

Cheers
Robin

johnbmw6 · 08-11-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

I do not intend to part exchange

part exchange prices are always bad. I was offered 6,000 from the dealer on my previous car sold it privately for 10,500

You did do well.

CTF30 · 08-23-2012, 12:32 PM

I'll take the lip, spoiler and maybe even the wheels in the op if it becomes available to buy separately.

Jason · 10-19-2012, 12:45 PM

Updated with new photos as of 10/19/12 of the Alpina B3 testing at the Nurburgring (spied at BMW's Nurburgring test center).

Also see the videos below for a history lesson and insight into the development process of Alpina vehicles.

VIDEOS

Alpina BMW Model Design, Production and Manufacturing Process

Alpina History Lesson

rjc32000 · 10-19-2012, 12:56 PM

Sadly, we yanks only get the B7.

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Originally Posted by CoolDude196

How well do alpinas sell, over in the US?

I am right in thinking you can get alpinas over there aren't I?

jsedlak · 10-19-2012, 12:58 PM

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The F30 B3 will be powered by a highly massaged (by Alpina) N55 engine which should output more than the 400HP from the current B3 S's N54 engine. It will be offered in automatic transmission only. Expect a top speed in the ballpark of 290kmph as Alpinas are traditionally top speed unlimited.

Okay, I'm listening.

Dubso · 10-19-2012, 03:06 PM

Wonder what exactly "massaged the engine means" Im assuming they had to upgrade the crank, considering they are aiming at over 400hp. Hope this opens up the door for aftermarket components.

mapezzul · 10-19-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubso

Wonder what exactly "massaged the engine means" Im assuming they had to upgrade the crank, considering they are aiming at over 400hp. Hope this opens up the door for aftermarket components.

The crank is already upgraded in the M135i (it is forged). They are doing much more to this engine and they work closely with another GmbH that is affiliated with BMW (that's how they got the tü for the N63 so fast), so they may be testing something albeit different of something coming.

Alpina's tend to be high speed cars with more low end grunt. Love them personally.

zzzmmm · 10-19-2012, 06:05 PM

spoiler

benn. · 10-19-2012, 09:11 PM

so what's to differentiate between a b3 and an m3..
the e90s had the v8 as a huge difference but this time around they'll both be inline turbo 6s.. not much difference.. i know suspension n all that whatnot will be different but i feel like it'll be pulled by the same power source.. +/- some tune

red-sauerkraut · 10-19-2012, 09:37 PM

I was wondering what the heck that was.

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Originally Posted by zzzmmm

spoiler

BMW BRAD · 10-20-2012, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Prissy

ugly headlights for life

^^^^^^ Agreed...... EFF the uni - brow look......... ^^^^^^

kbryce · 10-20-2012, 02:15 AM

Sexy. At some point in my life I'm gonna own that e92 b3s the black one with that green alpine on the side.

Drunk posting ftw

Robin_NL · 10-20-2012, 06:31 AM

Anybody who knows the tyresize on that testcar on the pics? 19"? and > 275 at the back?

Cheers
Robin

noxyucT · 10-20-2012, 11:15 PM

08-11-2012, 03:24 AM	#50
schnell13 Private First Class Drives: 2013 335i M Sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Beach Posts: 174 iTrader: (0)	Alpina F30 Remember that Alpina is classified as a builder, not a tuner, in Germany. What they do is basically get a complete, albeit not assembled, BMW from Munich then change up just about everything. The motor, body, suspension and interior are all upgraded all at once at their factory. So, with Alpina, it's a full custom treatment on your car. Hence the 'B' designators. Not sure why they picked the letter B, but a BMW 3,5,6,7 etc. becomes an Alpina B3, B5, B6, B7, etc as it's a totally different car at that point. And while I'm not a huge fan of the wolverine wheels, their multi-spoke wheel with the integral valve stem, as seen on the late-model Alpina B7, is absolutely stunning.

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08-23-2012, 12:32 PM	#54
CTF30 New Member Drives: AW 328i F30 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: So.Fla Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	I'll take the lip, spoiler and maybe even the wheels in the op if it becomes available to buy separately.

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Dubso Private Drives: 11' 135i, 04' S60R, 03 MR-2 S Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 81 iTrader: (0)	Wonder what exactly "massaged the engine means" Im assuming they had to upgrade the crank, considering they are aiming at over 400hp. Hope this opens up the door for aftermarket components.

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zzzmmm SICK Drives: MCB F10 M5 Join Date: May 2012 Location: TX Posts: 194 iTrader: (0)	spoiler

10-19-2012, 09:11 PM	#61
benn. Private First Class Drives: 2010 bmw m3, 2009 merc c350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Seattle WA / Mailbu CA Posts: 126 iTrader: (0)	so what's to differentiate between a b3 and an m3.. the e90s had the v8 as a huge difference but this time around they'll both be inline turbo 6s.. not much difference.. i know suspension n all that whatnot will be different but i feel like it'll be pulled by the same power source.. +/- some tune

10-20-2012, 06:31 AM	#65
Robin_NL S0THPAW Drives: AW 1M + N55 mids Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands, Europe Posts: 4,210 iTrader: (0)	Anybody who knows the tyresize on that testcar on the pics? 19"? and > 275 at the back? Cheers Robin

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