Rust...not the seats - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 04:54 PM

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I popped my hood today and noticed some small rust spots developing on my brand new 335i. Car has less than 1000 miles on it. Is this "normal"? I emailed the pics to my service advisor to send to BMW. I am beginning to think the whole car is going to start rusting soon!

jtuds · 01-13-2013, 04:58 PM

This is ridiculous. I just ordered one. If this happens to my car, I'll lose it.

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 05:02 PM

I just replied to the sales manager's email asking how my buying experience went and told him I bought a rusting $55k car. I plan on calling BMW again tomorrow. They still haven't replied about the seat frames and hinges and it has been over a week since I brought the car in for them to take pictures.

zofinger · 01-13-2013, 05:05 PM

I'm checking my engine bay tomorrow!!

BMWforLife · 01-13-2013, 05:16 PM

are you sure its rust? in the second picture it kind of looks like cosmoline

its hard to tell in pictures however, it almost looks like water from other rusted metal dripped on the metal in your bay.

if it is rust, raise hell. under the seats, rust, OK yeah it sucks. but in your engine bay, not acceptable.

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWforLife

are you sure its rust? in the second picture it kind of looks like cosmoline

its hard to tell in pictures however, it almost looks like water from other rusted metal dripped on the metal in your bay.

if it is rust, raise hell. under the seats, rust, OK yeah it sucks. but in your engine bay, not acceptable.

Exactly, what I told them. Seat issues are one thing, engine bay another. Pretty sure it is rust but will find out more tomorrow.

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 05:23 PM

its also in the same spot on the metal frame on both sides of the engine bay.

HighlandPete · 01-13-2013, 05:31 PM

Strange that it is there, but looks like the surface has had some contaminated water or liquid on it, appears to have puddled and stained as it dried. It doesn't look like rust from under the surface, it will wipe off if I'm seeing it right.

How it got there would be more a concern to me, but it should just wipe or polish away. If it was my car that's what I'd do as a matter of course.

HighlandPete

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Strange that it is there, but looks like the surface has had some contaminated water or liquid on it, appears to have puddled and stained as it dried. It doesn't look like rust from under the surface, it will wipe off if I'm seeing it right.

How it got there would be more a concern to me, but it should just wipe or polish away. If it was my car that's what I'd do as a matter of course.

HighlandPete

It does not wipe away. I have tried.

HighlandPete · 01-13-2013, 05:39 PM

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It does not wipe away. I have tried.

Does it look as if it is eating into the surface paint, as the rest of the structure looks perfectly normal? I still feel something has been on the surface since production of the car.

I know pictures don't show exact detail, but it does appear to have had liquid of some type on the surfaces and there looks to be evidence of run off.

HighlandPete

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Does it look as if it is eating into the surface paint, as the rest of the structure looks perfectly normal? I still feel something has been on the surface since production of the car.

I know pictures don't show exact detail, but it does appear to have had liquid of some type on the surfaces and there looks to be evidence of run off.

HighlandPete

I just spent some time under the hood. It looks like you are right. Good eye! It doesn't wipe off but I can peel it off. It happened in the factory. It is in spots that aren't exposed to drip directly onto it. My salesman is really good. We have been emailing and he said it is a lubricant that they use in the factory. Not sure what I want to use to get it off....a degreaser?

HighlandPete · 01-13-2013, 05:50 PM

So it could be cosmoline... has it dropped out of the hood? Have a look to see if there is evidence of it doing so.

It it is, it should come off with something like white spirit.

HighlandPete

jamie335i · 01-13-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

So it could be cosmoline... has it dropped out of the hood? Have a look to see if there is evidence of it doing so.

It it is, it should come off with something like white spirit.

HighlandPete

It didn't come from the hood. I peeled off the areas that are accessible. Just glad it wasn't rust!

BavarianFanatic · 01-13-2013, 09:24 PM

Looks like rail dust that got wet and puddled in those spots. I'm guessing the PDI wasn't as thorough as it should have been.

Orient330iNYC · 01-13-2013, 10:13 PM

thats cosmoline. you'll need to use a solvent to remove it, off the top of my head, 90+% isopropyl or denatured alcohol should do it. if you need to get more aggressive, laquer thinner.

nsquared · 01-13-2013, 10:28 PM

Had the same problem when I got my car. Its just dirt with oil.

dcg71 · 01-13-2013, 11:56 PM

I agree it looks like cosmoline. That stuff is still leaking onto my headlights and the car is almost 12 months old.

01-13-2013, 04:54 PM	#1
jamie335i Private Drives: 2013 335i M sport 6MT Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	Rust...not the seats Featured on BIMMERPOST.com I popped my hood today and noticed some small rust spots developing on my brand new 335i. Car has less than 1000 miles on it. Is this "normal"? I emailed the pics to my service advisor to send to BMW. I am beginning to think the whole car is going to start rusting soon! Attached Images __________________ 2013 335i M sport 6MT --Sapphire Black Metallic/Black Dakota, premium package, technology package, dynamic handling, black grilles, 5% tint--
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01-13-2013, 05:02 PM	#3
jamie335i Private Drives: 2013 335i M sport 6MT Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	I just replied to the sales manager's email asking how my buying experience went and told him I bought a rusting $55k car. I plan on calling BMW again tomorrow. They still haven't replied about the seat frames and hinges and it has been over a week since I brought the car in for them to take pictures. __________________ 2013 335i M sport 6MT --Sapphire Black Metallic/Black Dakota, premium package, technology package, dynamic handling, black grilles, 5% tint--

01-13-2013, 05:16 PM	#5
BMWforLife Second Lieutenant Drives: F30 335i M Sport Alpine White Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 219 iTrader: (0)	are you sure its rust? in the second picture it kind of looks like cosmoline its hard to tell in pictures however, it almost looks like water from other rusted metal dripped on the metal in your bay. if it is rust, raise hell. under the seats, rust, OK yeah it sucks. but in your engine bay, not acceptable. __________________ 2013 F30 335i M Sport AW, HK Sound, Black Interior. 6 MT, M Performance Knob, 15% tint all around. OPTI COAT, M Performance Exhaust Will be adding the PPK (if they ever make it)

01-13-2013, 05:23 PM	#7
jamie335i Private Drives: 2013 335i M sport 6MT Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	its also in the same spot on the metal frame on both sides of the engine bay. __________________ 2013 335i M sport 6MT --Sapphire Black Metallic/Black Dakota, premium package, technology package, dynamic handling, black grilles, 5% tint--

01-13-2013, 10:13 PM	#15
Orient330iNYC Major Drives: 2013 335i M Sport Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wall St Posts: 1,336 iTrader: (2)	thats cosmoline. you'll need to use a solvent to remove it, off the top of my head, 90+% isopropyl or denatured alcohol should do it. if you need to get more aggressive, laquer thinner. __________________ Past: 2001 Orientblue E46 330i Past: 2004 S60R 6MT Past: 2007 E90 335i 6MT Past: 2010 335xi ZMP, BMW Performance Kit, BMW Performance Exhaust Present: 2013 335i 6MT ZMM/ZDH/ZTP/3AG/494/508

01-13-2013, 04:58 PM	#2
jtuds Captain Drives: 335i M Sport ordered Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 1.5-2 hrs west of Toronto Posts: 776 iTrader: (0)	This is ridiculous. I just ordered one. If this happens to my car, I'll lose it.

01-13-2013, 05:05 PM	#4
zofinger Private First Class Drives: 328i Luxury, Tanzanite Blue Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: England Posts: 121 iTrader: (0)	I'm checking my engine bay tomorrow!!

01-13-2013, 05:31 PM	#8
HighlandPete Colonel Drives: BMW F11 535i Touring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland, Highland Region Posts: 2,908 iTrader: (0)	Strange that it is there, but looks like the surface has had some contaminated water or liquid on it, appears to have puddled and stained as it dried. It doesn't look like rust from under the surface, it will wipe off if I'm seeing it right. How it got there would be more a concern to me, but it should just wipe or polish away. If it was my car that's what I'd do as a matter of course. HighlandPete

01-13-2013, 05:50 PM	#12
HighlandPete Colonel Drives: BMW F11 535i Touring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland, Highland Region Posts: 2,908 iTrader: (0)	So it could be cosmoline... has it dropped out of the hood? Have a look to see if there is evidence of it doing so. It it is, it should come off with something like white spirit. HighlandPete

01-13-2013, 09:24 PM	#14
BavarianFanatic Too much is never enough Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 718 iTrader: (0)	Looks like rail dust that got wet and puddled in those spots. I'm guessing the PDI wasn't as thorough as it should have been.

01-13-2013, 10:28 PM	#16
nsquared [Versatile] Drives: (S)LOW. Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California & Utah Posts: 1,340 iTrader: (0)	Had the same problem when I got my car. Its just dirt with oil. __________________ '13 AW F30 335i ///M-Sport 6MT. OEM(+). [Liquid Innovations] [Envisions] [Rob's Speed Shop]

01-13-2013, 11:56 PM	#17
dcg71 Captain Drives: F30 335i Sport BSM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 723 iTrader: (2)	I agree it looks like cosmoline. That stuff is still leaking onto my headlights and the car is almost 12 months old. __________________ ------------------------------ 2012 F30 335i Sapphire Black Sport Line \| ///M Performance Exhaust \| H&R Sport \| ///M Performance 405M Wheels \| ///M Performance Grilles 2006 E92 325i Titan Silver 2000 E46 318i Cosmos Black

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