US Gets BMW Turbo Diesel Engines - 180HP 4-Cylinder and 255HP 6-Cylinder - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

b33g33 · 07-13-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPig

I know the article lists the 8AT, but pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepl easepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplea sepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepl easepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplea seplease offer a 6MT option as well on the 4 banger diesel. PLEASE!

This.

I didn't buy the 335d because it didn't come with a manual.

I grew up driving small turbo diesel hatchbacks and sedans (all manual) and they are just as much fun as the petrol versions in 95% of driving conditions.

arnsbrae · 07-13-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

there is no way those MPG numbers are accurate for US EPA testing. An Audi A3 using similar diesel with less power only gets 32 city and 40 highway. 40 City and 60+ highway is not possible, I am guessing there is a conversion problem here.

If it was true, I think the Prius would be in serious trouble as lots of "wealthy" people buy it just for its environmental image, they would probably much rather drive a BMW that gets 50 MPG on average!

Believe. (See my post above...)

My Prius owning colleague is now driving around in an F30 316d (a detuned 2.0l diesel).

Itgb · 07-13-2012, 02:16 PM

Fantastic news on the 4cyl.

Diesel wagon please.

Mahzari · 07-13-2012, 02:19 PM

If the 320d is cheaper than the 328i, that will sell like crazy! I can't wait to drive both

arnsbrae · 07-13-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahzari

If the 320d is cheaper than the 328i, that will sell like crazy! I can't wait to drive both

Should be about $1500 cheaper. (Based on UK differential).

SoCali E90 · 07-13-2012, 02:28 PM

Didn't top gear pull over a 1000 miles on one tank of gas off this 4 banger?

hsb · 07-13-2012, 02:29 PM

You guys are crazy.

BMWs diesels have engine noise only a deaf could love.
If it has to be a diesel, I much prefer the sound from Audi's smoother sounding diesel engines.

arnsbrae · 07-13-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hsb

You guys are crazy.

BMWs diesels have engine noise only a deaf could love.
If it has to be a diesel, I much prefer the sound from Audi's smoother sounding diesel engines.

Lol. It's true - trolls do come from Sweden...

CirrusSR22 · 07-13-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

there is no way those MPG numbers are accurate for US EPA testing. An Audi A3 using similar diesel with less power only gets 32 city and 40 highway. 40 City and 60+ highway is not possible, I am guessing there is a conversion problem here.

I agree. The US vs. Euro tests are definitely different, but I do think the Euro tests (in US MPG) maybe provide a good indication of what's possible if driven carefully. So I wouldn't doubt 50+ MPG is possible on a 60 MPH multi-hour cruise, it just probably won't have a 50 MPG EPA rating.

If one looks at the UK website right now, the E91 320d gets about 25% better economy (Euro combined) than the E91 335d, both with automatic. The E90 335d is rated at 36 US MPG highway, so add 25% and you're at 45 MPG. Just a guess of course, but I'm expecting a mid-40s US highway rating.

Regardless of the specifics, it's just nice to finally have the option of even buying one!

I think once my 318ti hits 300,000 miles in a few years (and I can finally justify getting rid of it), I'll pick one of these up a couple years used. Was waiting for the E90 320d but it never came...

Mako · 07-13-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hsb

You guys are crazy.

BMWs diesels have engine noise only a deaf could love.
If it has to be a diesel, I much prefer the sound from Audi's smoother sounding diesel engines.

I bet that 255 HP 400+ torque engine sounds pretty nice!

bimmerjph · 07-13-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCali E90

Didn't top gear pull over a 1000 miles on one tank of gas off this 4 banger?

No that was either 530d or a 535d.

flyga3 · 07-13-2012, 02:39 PM

Schweeeeeet!!

Now, can you guys (BMWAG) figure out the torque issue with Getrag to give us a 6MT with any of those? Please?

The folks at Tremec don't seem to have any issue with 400+ torque.

Mr Gunfun · 07-13-2012, 02:39 PM

I think BMW should offer at least "special/limited edition" 320d touring, say "efficient dynamics edition(?)", models in the US since they are not going to offer the monster 550d xdrive models?

Mako · 07-13-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

I agree. The US vs. Euro tests are definitely different, but I do think the Euro tests (in US MPG) maybe provide a good indication of what's possible if driven carefully. So I wouldn't doubt 50+ MPG is possible on a 60 MPH multi-hour cruise, it just probably won't have a 50 MPG EPA rating.

If one looks at the UK website right now, the E91 320d gets about 25% better economy (Euro combined) than the E91 335d, both with automatic. The E90 335d is rated at 36 US MPG highway, so add 25% and you're at 45 MPG. Just a guess of course, but I'm expecting a mid-40s US highway rating.

Regardless of the specifics, it's just nice to finally have the option of even buying one!

I think once my 318ti hits 300,000 miles in a few years (and I can finally justify getting rid of it), I'll pick one of these up a couple years used. Was waiting for the E90 320d but it never came...

A number like that I would believe, 35 city and 45 highway is probably what the US EPA numbers will come in at. But 0-60 in 7.1 seconds has to be the fastest car available in the US that gets around 40 MPG, Audi used to have the crown at around 8.2 seconds everything else is around 9 seconds, so the BMW 2.0 would blow everything out of the water.

Silververtu · 07-13-2012, 02:44 PM

F31 335d please

arnsbrae · 07-13-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

No that was either 530d or a 535d.

The Top Gear test was an M3 v Prius flat out round a track. The M3 won.

A more relevant test was Prius v 520d by the Times newspaper;

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/b...n-gas-mileage/

Raja Ventureshield · 07-13-2012, 02:48 PM

i want a 5 series diesel yeah sweet.

SoCali E90 · 07-13-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

No that was either 530d or a 535d.

im pretty sure it was a 3 series

wdeerfield · 07-13-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by discoboy1

about time! great news, I assume it will be the same for Canada, my wishlist 320d touring with M sportpackage!!!

+8752983475298475 in Tanzanite blue!

Teemo Panda · 07-13-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by arnsbrae

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerjph

No that was either 530d or a 535d.

The Top Gear test was an M3 v Prius flat out round a track. The M3 won.

A more relevant test was Prius v 520d by the Times newspaper;

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/b...n-gas-mileage/

Lol that's a no brainier :P

Mako · 07-13-2012, 02:57 PM

Any rumor on the time frame here? I mean the car already exists in Europe but I know they have to make a few modifications because of that silly State that refuses to just fall into the Pacific.

I am really in the market for a car this fall but might be able to hold out until Spring 2013 if this could be an early release 2014 model...

I might just go from buying a 335xi to a 325d

I have been looking for a highly effecient car that didn't put me to sleep while driving it but couldn't find one so I was just going to get a 335xi, but this changes things.

BMWPower06 · 07-13-2012, 03:01 PM

60 mpg AND fun to drive! Where do I sign up?!

07-13-2012, 02:16 PM	#25
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