[voip-ninja]

Originally Posted by Jason

You can be sure that at the very least, the first batch (July production) of 2013 model year F30 3 series won't have the new navigation professional system. Whether it gets added via an equipment change sometime during the 2013 model year is something BMW isn't disclosing to us right now.

What we can gleam from the information they have announced so far though is that the Activehybrid 3 will get the new navigation professional system. And the Activehybrid 3 starts production in November. So it's definitely possible that 2013 F30 3 series as of November production may get it as well.

BMW knows how to make it tough on a buyer. I prefer i-drive, but the MMI in all the A4/S4 cars just got updated with google maps and google POI.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by Jason

What we can gleam from the information they have announced so far though is that the Activehybrid 3 will get the new navigation professional system. And the Activehybrid 3 starts production in November. So it's definitely possible that 2013 F30 3 series as of November production may get it as well.

The F31 will debut straightaway as MY13, & it seems with the new nav system. The petrol models will go into production a few mths before the Active Hybrid, meaning it'll probably be the first 3er to get the new system.

[voip-ninja]

Originally Posted by clarence

The F31 will debut straightaway as MY13, & it seems with the new nav system. The petrol models will go into production a few mths before the Active Hybrid, meaning it'll probably be the first 3er to get the new system.

What is the source that the F31 will have the new system? I believe F31 is supposed to be in dealerships spring 2013 which means production might not start till late winter of 2012.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by voip-ninja

What is the source that the F31 will have the new system? I believe F31 is supposed to be in dealerships spring 2013 which means production might not start till late winter of 2012.

It's on bmw.com's F31 page, describing the new prof nav. Also, all the press fotos on the interior of the F31 shows the new nav display.
Production of petrol versions of the F31 for EU markets will start soon (probably Aug/Sept as first deliveries will be during September), with diesels starting from Nov onwards. Pricing details for most EU markets are already available & orders are being taken.

[voip-ninja]

Strange. It seems as though for a period of time it might be that the F31 and F30 will both have their production lines running with different nav systems. Bizarre.

[Maz335i]

Guys,

I'm confused!

So this new Nav is a technical update or a hardware update? What I mean to say is do we get a new iDrive controller or a new screen or everything remains the same just a new software update?

[voip-ninja]

Originally Posted by Maz335i

Guys,

I'm confused!

So this new Nav is a technical update or a hardware update? What I mean to say is do we get a new iDrive controller or a new screen or everything remains the same just a new software update?

From the outside it is probably going to look the same (same screen, same controller, etc) but there will be new hardware AND new software on the inside.

Think of it as getting a new graphics card for your PC, everything outside looks the same but it's much faster so that you can run the latest games.

In other words, no one has an expectation that owners of the old system will be able to upgrade to the new one.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by voip-ninja

Strange. It seems as though for a period of time it might be that the F31 and F30 will both have their production lines running with different nav systems. Bizarre.

It isn't strange at all, wht may happen is the F30 will get it from Sept onwards.
Production nowadays are flexible enough to handle different products on the same line.

[apw2607]

Waiting makes no sense when it comes to infotainment. You wait until November ... Guess what, the year after we will see the updated touch controller. After that the next gen i-drive will arrive. After that ... Who knows. Get the car at the time when you need it.

These current updates are relatively minor despite what BMW marketing will tell you. The routing algorithms and map data remain unchanged. Teleatlas is still providing the same crappy map data. It's just presentation thats changed. If you want google street view and panoramio simply recode for BMW live. This is supported with current hardware.

[voip-ninja]

The thing that can't be recoded for is full Internet access, google POI search, etc. I am coming to the conclusion that I will end up waiting the rest of this year to find out what is going on and still only a 50/50 chance of seeing this make it to the US for spring 2013 delivery.

[arnsbrae]

Originally Posted by voip-ninja

The thing that can't be recoded for is full Internet access, google POI search, etc. I am coming to the conclusion that I will end up waiting the rest of this year to find out what is going on and still only a 50/50 chance of seeing this make it to the US for spring 2013 delivery.

There is Internet access available on the MY 2012.

[arnsbrae]

Originally Posted by clarence

It isn't strange at all, wht may happen is the F30 will get it from Sept onwards.
Production nowadays are flexible enough to handle different products on the same line.

I think it would be at least strange and certainly quite an arbitry way to proceed. Saloon (sedan) versions have always had the same versions of electronics as estate (touring) versions with the only real difference being the addition of a shell on the back.

If BMW do anything different, they will only be doing it to use up old parts.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by arnsbrae

If BMW do anything different, they will only be doing it to use up old parts.

Of course they have to use up the old parts, but then again there's no news regarding updated nav on the F20, which shares a lot of the electronics with the F30/1.
BMW have in the past quite frequently introduced incremental changes this way, esp regarding electrical equipment.

[arnsbrae]

Originally Posted by clarence

Of course they have to use up the old parts, but then again there's no news regarding updated nav on the F20, which shares a lot of the electronics with the F30/1.
BMW have in the past quite frequently introduced incremental changes this way, esp regarding electrical equipment.

Yes, that's probably true. It is odd that there hasn't really been a definitive statement on this from the big cheeses at BMW.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by arnsbrae

Yes, that's probably true. It is odd that there hasn't really been a definitive statement on this from the big cheeses at BMW.

BMW's policy for the last few yrs is being vague on a lot of tech stuff, & they like to use acronyms which easily confuse ppl.
I found that very often u really have to read press packs in order to gain sufficient knowledge of their products.

[voip-ninja]

Just a little update and maybe a glimmer of hope for those whose F30 cars are going into production in July.

My CA here in Colorado called me today and said that he had been striking out on finding anything out, but they had a training session recently and the BMW factory representative in this area dropped in and he specifically asked him if the new idrive was going to show up on US F30 cars when production resumes in July.

He said that the factory rep described a Nav update very similar to what we see in this thread which he described as minor, saying that it includes new 3D navigation graphics some interface changes and that it's "faster"... which sounds extremely similar to the i-drive refresh that we see covered here.

The key takeaway is that he specifically said that it was coming to the July and onwards built F30 cars, including those destined for north america. Take it for what it's worth.

[bringonthenite]

voip-ninja, that is better than no hope!

[firatsirma]

Originally Posted by voip-ninja

Just a little update and maybe a glimmer of hope for those whose F30 cars are going into production in July.

My CA here in Colorado called me today and said that he had been striking out on finding anything out, but they had a training session recently and the BMW factory representative in this area dropped in and he specifically asked him if the new idrive was going to show up on US F30 cars when production resumes in July.

He said that the factory rep described a Nav update very similar to what we see in this thread which he described as minor, saying that it includes new 3D navigation graphics some interface changes and that it's "faster"... which sounds extremely similar to the i-drive refresh that we see covered here.

The key takeaway is that he specifically said that it was coming to the July and onwards built F30 cars, including those destined for north america. Take it for what it's worth.

Wow, this is definetely encouraging! The production of my 320i is scheduled for week 28 (9-15 July) and I remain optimistic..

[Haarschmerzen]

Sounds great! My 320i xdrive is comming August. But I still need more fuel for updated idrive delusions!! Anyone?

[shoptb]

Originally Posted by Jason

That info is coming later this week.

Did you ever get any info regarding this?

[DitrasetMan]

Originally Posted by shoptb

Did you ever get any info regarding this?

This is all very interesting. I am on the F10 forum, and everyone is having the same debate.

Will the new Navi/iDrive update be included in the the 2013 July production?

[voip-ninja]

Originally Posted by DitrasetMan

This is all very interesting. I am on the F10 forum, and everyone is having the same debate.

Will the new Navi/iDrive update be included in the the 2013 July production?

It's already confirmed for the 5 series. The speculation centers around the 3 series which was specifically NOT announced for 2013 other than for the active-hybrid version coming out at the end of the year.