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Rossifumi · 06-22-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrcarcrazy

way to old of a reply for me to remember what I was replying to (and I don't care enough to go look) However:

IIRC my reply was about the Blue M sport brakes.

The new info is that M sport cars come with the standard brakes in the United States...and the only way to get an upgrade is to order the "M performance brakes" which is ordered online or from your local DLR.

Your post was below a post about individual merino leather.

Did you know that you can click on the blue icon after the name in the quote to go directly to the quoted post?

Mrcarcrazy · 06-22-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rossifumi

Your post was below a post about individual merino leather.

Did you know that you can click on the blue icon after the name in the quote to go directly to the quoted post?

nope didn't know that...but in this instance that doesn't tell me much, as I know nothing of merino leather....I'm about 80% sure it was in response to a fellow asking about brakes.

Red Bread · 06-22-2012, 02:32 PM

That was me arguing about the brakes, I still have chosen not to believe you, regardless of facts.

Mrcarcrazy · 06-22-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

That was me arguing about the brakes, I still have chosen not to believe you, regardless of facts.

LOL. can't blame you. I tell myself I'm full of shit all the time.

Red Bread · 06-22-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrcarcrazy

LOL. can't blame you. I tell myself I'm full of shit all the time.

If you listen closely, you may now hear a voice coming from the east, repeating that.

Mrcarcrazy · 06-22-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

If you listen closely, you may now hear a voice coming from the east, repeating that.

Gonna have to compete w/ all the other voices

martinf79 · 06-23-2012, 12:08 AM

Just in ... M Sport Brake Options + Pricing for Canada

Kmm · 06-23-2012, 01:34 AM

Those brakes look great!

daxtor · 06-23-2012, 03:49 AM

Perfect! The M Sport brakes are what I have been waiting for. Now my car configuration is complete.

HouseMusicRules · 06-23-2012, 11:20 AM

Thanks for M Sport brakes pricing. Very reasonable in my opinion. By no means this is a huge upgrade from the 335i stock brakes but it will provide some addtional performance as well as greater appearance.

Just for comparison here is a comparison:

335i (stock)
F: 340mm x 30mm -- 4-piston fixed calliper
R: 330mm x 25mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper

335i M Sport Brakes (CDN $350 factory upgrade)
F: 370mm x 30mm -- 4-piston fixed calliper (blue w/ M badge)
R: 345mm x 25mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper (blue w/ M badge)

As well as Euro brake pad material that may dust more but have better performance.

Anyone know if these are Brembo callipers? I read somewhere they might be but have my doubts.

martinf79 · 06-23-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HouseMusicRules

Thanks for M Sport brakes pricing. Very reasonable in my opinion. By no means this is a huge upgrade from the 335i stock brakes but it will provide some addtional performance as well as greater appearance.

Just for comparison here is a comparison:

335i (stock)
F: 340mm x 30mm -- 4-piston fixed calliper
R: 330mm x 30mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper

335i M Sport Brakes (CDN $350 factory upgrade)
F: 370mm x 30mm -- 4-piston fixed calliper (blue w/ M badge)
R: 345mm x 30mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper (blue w/ M badge)

As well as Euro brake pad material that may dust more but have better performance.

Anyone know if these are Brembo callipers? I read somewhere they might be but have my doubts.

So the stock brakes have a different brake pad material (i.e that doesn't dust as much)?

Also, do you think there are any concerns about clearning 18" rims (for winter setup) w/ the M Sport Brake upgrade?

clarence · 06-23-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HouseMusicRules

335i (stock)

R: 330mm x 30mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper

I don't think they're 2 piston fixed calipers, they're single piston sliding calipers.

clarence · 06-23-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by martinf79

So the stock brakes have a different brake pad material (i.e that doesn't dust as much)?

Also, do you think there are any concerns about clearning 18" rims (for winter setup) w/ the M Sport Brake upgrade?

For US/CDN-spec cars the pads are of different materials to EU/ROW-spec, they have less dust but much less initial bite.

HouseMusicRules · 06-23-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by clarence

I don't think they're 2 piston fixed calipers, they're single piston sliding calipers.

Check out post #161 above from BMW Canada, clearly showed front are 4-piston, rear 2-piston.

Sliding callipers are for 328i, not 335i.

HouseMusicRules · 06-23-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by martinf79

So the stock brakes have a different brake pad material (i.e that doesn't dust as much)?

Also, do you think there are any concerns about clearning 18" rims (for winter setup) w/ the M Sport Brake upgrade?

The M Sport Brakes are designed to work with minimum 18" rims so I think you'll be fine. I'll be going 19" 403 M for summer, 18" BMW replicas for winter.

clarence · 06-23-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HouseMusicRules

Check out post #161 above from BMW Canada, clearly showed front are 4-piston, rear 2-piston.

Sliding callipers are for 328i, not 335i.

I'm talking abt stock brakes. The stock brakes on the 335i have 4-piston fixed calipers at the front & single piston sliding calipers at the rear. Only the optional M-sport brake system have 2-piston fixed calipers at the rear.

martinf79 · 06-23-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HouseMusicRules

The M Sport Brakes are designed to work with minimum 18" rims so I think you'll be fine. I'll be going 19" 403 M for summer, 18" BMW replicas for winter.

Doing the same. What type of 18" replica are you thinking of going w/? I'm thinking 18" VMR V710's... you?

Maz335i · 06-23-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by martinf79

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Originally Posted by HouseMusicRules

The M Sport Brakes are designed to work with minimum 18" rims so I think you'll be fine. I'll be going 19" 403 M for summer, 18" BMW replicas for winter.

Doing the same. What type of 18" replica are you thinking of going w/? I'm thinking 18" VMR V710's... you?

That's a good choice because that's what I'm going with!

JustinTJ · 06-23-2012, 05:34 PM

According to E90Fleet, you're wrong about the brake pads.

"US M Sport models will not get the regular low dust, less bite US brake pads but will be fitted with Euro spec pads on the standard rotors.

US cars with the optional M Sport brakes fitted models will also receive the same Euro pads as their European counterparts."

This is without ordering the Msport Brake option.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=688550

martinf79 · 06-23-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz335i

That's a good choice because that's what I'm going with!

Are you groing w/ a staggered setup for winter w/ your 18's - 225 up front, 245 in the rear? Or 225 all around? Have never gone w/ a staggered setup for winter (everyone always says its better to have the same/thinner tire all around for winter driving), but does it make that much of a difference?

Maz335i · 06-23-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by martinf79

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Originally Posted by Maz335i

That's a good choice because that's what I'm going with!

Are you groing w/ a staggered setup for winter w/ your 18's - 225 up front, 245 in the rear? Or 225 all around? Have never gone w/ a staggered setup for winter (everyone always says its better to have the same/thinner tire all around for winter driving), but does it make that much of a difference?

Yes it makes a big difference!

I've never driven staggered but I can tell you it'll be quite a rough ride!

My Dad owns a 2010 E350 4matic and my Mom has a 2010 ML350 and they both have the tires the same all around. I have a good friend who drives a heavily-moded Genesis during the winter and he too went with 18" all around non-staggered.

It's only from November till March that we really need to be safe after that the weather is pretty stable. Plus it doesn't snow all the time so just get a set of nice 18" non-staggered and you'll be really safe!

Where u going to order the VMR wheels from? Got a good dealer?

martinf79 · 06-23-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz335i

Yes it makes a big difference!

I've never driven staggered but I can tell you it'll be quite a rough ride!

My Dad owns a 2010 E350 4matic and my Mom has a 2010 ML350 and they both have the tires the same all around. I have a good friend who drives a heavily-moded Genesis during the winter and he too went with 18" all around non-staggered.

It's only from November till March that we really need to be safe after that the weather is pretty stable. Plus it doesn't snow all the time so just get a set of nice 18" non-staggered and you'll be really safe!

Where u going to order the VMR wheels from? Got a good dealer?

There's a place close to my office in Markham (tuner store). I have the place written down at the office (I can mssg you on Monday). He's going to place an order for winter rims (from china) at the back end of July. He can get a real good deal on them, as he'll just include the rims in his big order (he"s ordering an entire bin, so really cheap - as low shipping cost). If we order 2 sets, we can probably get a better deal.

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HouseMusicRules Private Drives: '13 335i M-Sport 6MT RWD EBII Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 86 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for M Sport brakes pricing. Very reasonable in my opinion. By no means this is a huge upgrade from the 335i stock brakes but it will provide some addtional performance as well as greater appearance. Just for comparison here is a comparison: 335i (stock) F: 340mm x 30mm -- 4-piston fixed calliper R: 330mm x 25mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper 335i M Sport Brakes (CDN $350 factory upgrade) F: 370mm x 30mm -- 4-piston fixed calliper (blue w/ M badge) R: 345mm x 25mm -- 2-piston fixed calliper (blue w/ M badge) As well as Euro brake pad material that may dust more but have better performance. Anyone know if these are Brembo callipers? I read somewhere they might be but have my doubts. Last edited by HouseMusicRules; 06-24-2012 at 10:18 PM. Reason: corrected rear rotor thickness to 25mm (from 30mm)

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Red Bread Brigadier General Drives: My wife's car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,061 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X1 35i [0.00] 2009 Schwinn Madison [0.00]	That was me arguing about the brakes, I still have chosen not to believe you, regardless of facts.

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daxtor Enlisted Member Drives: TBD Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 37 iTrader: (0)	Perfect! The M Sport brakes are what I have been waiting for. Now my car configuration is complete.