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      04-05-2012, 08:11 AM   #23
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Does every new BMW in Europe have to be ordered? There are none on the lots? I can walk into any BMW dealer here in the USA and have at least 4 N20s to choose from immediately. I was at a dealership yesterday that probably had 10 to choose from.
Thats why the USA does not get all the options, so they can make huge standard lots and send them over containing cars with most of the available options

Waiting list here is several months, even though the one factory is here, as most slots here are for US 328i
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      04-05-2012, 08:13 AM   #24
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I've told my dealer I will be without a car for 2 weeks, which should apply some pressure. They are yet to confirm that it will be delayed, just a heads up that it is likely.
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I've told my dealer I will be without a car for 2 weeks, which should apply some pressure. They are yet to confirm that it will be delayed, just a heads up that it is likely.
Try to squeeze a loaner out of them.
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I've told my dealer I will be without a car for 2 weeks, which should apply some pressure. They are yet to confirm that it will be delayed, just a heads up that it is likely.
Hope you are speaking to someone high up at the dealership

Here the New car sales manager has all the info on the dealerships slot allocations for months in advance.

The normal sales people dont have this info

Have they given you a BMW order number or VIN number yet ? The order number here is issued by BMW when the slot is allocated, which can be months ahead of time. It then Changes to a VIN number close to production
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Aus march order is July delivery for 328's
I don't feel so bad now. I'm in Singapore, ordered 22 Feb and have been told to only expect delivery of my 328 in July. Sounds like it's not far from when Australian orders are being fulfilled.

...although if it's true the N20 engine is in shortage, then it'll throw my already long wait into the "unbearable" wait category.
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I don't feel so bad now. I'm in Singapore, ordered 22 Feb and have been told to only expect delivery of my 328 in July. Sounds like it's not far from when Australian orders are being fulfilled.

...although if it's true the N20 engine is in shortage, then it'll throw my already long wait into the "unbearable" wait category.
Your Singapore F30 should come from the Rosslyn South Africa factory here, just like those for Australia.

Your longest wait should be the boat trip from here to you
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I've told my dealer I will be without a car for 2 weeks, which should apply some pressure. They are yet to confirm that it will be delayed, just a heads up that it is likely.
Hope you are speaking to someone high up at the dealership

Here the New car sales manager has all the info on the dealerships slot allocations for months in advance.

The normal sales people dont have this info

Have they given you a BMW order number or VIN number yet ? The order number here is issued by BMW when the slot is allocated, which can be months ahead of time. It then Changes to a VIN number close to production
Ohh yes! I walk in and all the sales executives, including the most senior, greet me on first name terms! It's like another home they're so friendly and... normal! I always feel so welcome. I'm currently waiting upon a confirmation if my car is delayed, at the moment its just a likely possibility. Once I get confirmation, I will look to extend the lease on my 330d or if that's not possible, I'll be pushing for a loaner.
May ask about the VIN and order number next time I speak to them, cheers.
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      04-05-2012, 05:36 PM   #31
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All in Aus need to be ordered . SInce US is the biggest market makes sense that they have first dibs.
When I went for my test drive a few weeks ago, there was an F30 on the showroom floor that was locked. When I approached sales guy about taking a look inside, he pointed me in the direction of another F30, which i missed as that one had been sold from existing stock. So there are some around now.

Should become easier and easier to buy from stock as the weeks go by. However, if you wanted a specify setup......then yes, you are correct.
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wow 4 months is a long time
6 months is longer - our M-Sport cars. Maybe 5 months to go now, who knows?

I had a 4 month wait for my E90, only because the 325i was a May build, as opposed to the 320i & 330i both being immediate build back in Feb '05. (Maybe even earlier build)
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When I ordered mine, I was given a production number, were you? How can the dealer sell your slot if you have a production number to track?
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      04-06-2012, 02:06 AM   #34
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Some people aren't given the production number i'm guessing..

David: It would be ridiculous to wait 5 months for a car we're paying a sh1t load of money for >.>
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Does every new BMW in Europe have to be ordered? There are none on the lots? I can walk into any BMW dealer here in the USA and have at least 4 N20s to choose from immediately. I was at a dealership yesterday that probably had 10 to choose from.
Unless the car flops (which it wont) my guess that will change some as soon as the initial orders sell. I remember when I got my 335i in 2007, it was almost a year after release before some dealers had stock again.
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David: It would be ridiculous to wait 5 months for a car we're paying a sh1t load of money for >.>
Our M5 or M6 waiting lists are often about 12 months
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      04-06-2012, 06:50 AM   #37
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I ordered my 328i in The Netherlands end of March. I've seen the official order by the dealer and it says:

Date Order: 30.03.2012
PW dealer: 18/05/2012
PW BMW NL: 18/05/2012
PW factory: 21/05/2012
LW prognosis: 23/06/2012

And the dealer told me delivery week would be week 25. So no real delays here it seems...
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WOW ... thats a long time. I think an expectation should be there if an agreed delivery timeline has been set, or some sort of compensation should be given for the inconvenience caused.
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In the Caribbean it's about 5 months between placing your order and receiving your vehicle.

Most people just go with what the dealers have in their current stock, and they say they aren't stocking the 328i.

At double the cost of the car in the US they don't feel they will have many buyers I suppose
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Your Singapore F30 should come from the Rosslyn South Africa factory here, just like those for Australia.

Your longest wait should be the boat trip from here to you
Aww shucks. I'm in Munich in May/June, so was hoping I might ask to see my car before it gets on the boat.
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Seems like a fair request How much is a 328 in Singapore compared to other parts of the world
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Lots!

Quite a lot of options were already selected by the BMW distributor - priced at S$215,000. I added Sport line, Lumbar support, HK system, front PDC & rear camera for another almost S$7,000. Total just a sliver under S$222k (about AUD171k, Euro135k, USD176k).

Now I can't even go drool over it...
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Wow that's very expensive. That's so much more than Aus.

I bet everyone will be drooling over your ride soon enough lol
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If you are dissatisfied with the dealer just check out some other dealer and explain to them your concerns with your current dealer and see if they can source you the same car earlier and even cheaper. They will definitely price match at the bare minimum
I'm hugely satisfied with the dealer and they have just been awarded best BMW UK dealership! They're absoloutely fantastic but I will be investigating this episode based on what people are saying here...
The car has been on order since late February and I said I don't want it till 26th March 'cos my 330d lease ends on the 28th. What annoys me is that they have had all this time to fanny about and only now (49 days away from 26th March) am I told it could be delayed! Ugh, he needs to confirm it yet but wants to be honest with us which is good of him. I hope it is a genuine N20 shortage and not just my ordering being shafted. Meh, time will tell!
Your dealer's confirmation here may be an attempt to measure your displeasure. If you don't kick and scream, perhaps they may give away your slot.

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