N20 328i Intake Prototype - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

Evolution Racewerks · 03-26-2012, 07:59 PM

What's up guys, we just finished up with the prototype of our intake today, what do you guys think?

The finished product will most likely be anodized black. We will also be offering the option of a closed box most likely made out of carbon fiber for those that want cooler air.

We also have protypes of our finished downpipes, charge-pipe, and exhaust for the 328i so be sure to drop by our booth at Bimmerfest to check them all out.

328i4me · 03-26-2012, 08:43 PM

nice! can't wait to see your other products for the 328i!

Blake P · 03-26-2012, 09:46 PM

Without a proper heat shield or enclosed air box, isn't it just mixing hot air from the engine with the cooler outside air?

justinnum1 · 03-26-2012, 09:56 PM

so what will that do for the N20? sound improvement? power increase?

Evolution Racewerks · 03-27-2012, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 328i4me

nice! can't wait to see your other products for the 328i!

Be sure to come check us out at bimmerfest!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake P

Without a proper heat shield or enclosed air box, isn't it just mixing hot air from the engine with the cooler outside air?

In turbo cars with an intercooler, the slightly warmer air from inside the engine bay will not make too much of a difference as the air will be compressed by the turbos to around 180 degrees F regardless. If you have a proper intercooler, the air will be cooled off by the intercooler before it is fed to the engine. The key to open cone intakes is that it is less restrictive and thus can move much more air than a closed box intake can.

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinnum1

so what will that do for the N20? sound improvement? power increase?

Sound improvement is a for sure. We will have a step-by-step dyno of all our products very soon so the numbers will speak for itself

Blake P · 03-27-2012, 10:41 AM

Thanks for the great explanation!

RJCrew · 03-27-2012, 10:46 AM

Good Job! Can't wait the dyno.

cstavaru · 03-27-2012, 03:17 PM

Sorry ER, but you started on the cheap & easy road of hot air intakes. Do a proper cold air intake this time...it's a shame the N54 cheap intake saga is repeating itself.

If I were a reputable company I would never create a hot air intake.

rackley · 03-27-2012, 06:29 PM

As much as I hate to see cone filters on a pipe, he has a point about the IC.

**IF** the IC is properly sized (I say "if" because I have no first hand data on the F30), it doesn't matter a whole lot what the intake air temp is. The turbo compressing the air is where most of the heat comes from and IC should cool the charged air to within probably 10-15*F of ambient air temp.

Whether or not the IC is big enough to deal with the increased air temp only before/after IAT measurements would show.

SMGFTW · 03-27-2012, 08:53 PM

Awesome, I think with a couple bolt-on's the 328i can easily hit 300whp.

cstavaru · 03-28-2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SMGFTW

Awesome, I think with a couple bolt-on's the 328i can easily hit 300whp.

300hp at the crank is more likely to be achieved with a couple of bolt-ons. 300whp (at the wheel) will probably be achievable with full bolt-ons like downpipe, intake, intercooler and exhaust. Remember this is a 2 liter engine...the gains are not as large as the ones for the 335i.

TEAShea · 03-28-2012, 07:40 AM

It looks like it takes is hotter air and less air than the stock system. Contrary to your statement, the temperature of intake air with a turbo is critical. That is why the car has an intercooler. A step back from stock.

Tom

rhinosarge · 03-29-2012, 01:02 AM

looks very good

scorpionkit76 · 03-30-2012, 12:35 PM

at the end a dyno run tell the truth..

Evolution Racewerks · 04-06-2012, 07:51 PM

Dyno will be coming very soon with hood open and hood closed so I will let the numbers speak for itself.

Evolution Racewerks · 04-10-2012, 04:28 AM

Additionally, we will be releasing multiple variants of this intake ranging from the economical open air short ram intake as shown all the way to a full blown carbon fiber enclosed CAI.

EuroTunerz5 · 04-10-2012, 07:00 AM

I want exhaust!

Evolution Racewerks · 04-29-2012, 10:03 PM

bump, could mods please move this to the N20 forum. Thank you!

francis_william · 04-29-2012, 10:23 PM

where is the dyno result ??

bcl0328 · 04-29-2012, 10:24 PM

been over a month!

francis_william · 04-29-2012, 10:27 PM

Evolution Racewerks · 04-29-2012, 10:29 PM

We're waiting to finish up all of our parts (intake, downpipes, chargepipe, exhaust, and intercooler) and do a step by step dyno when everything is ready so we can keep daily external factors consistent

03-26-2012, 07:59 PM	#1
Evolution Racewerks Captain Drives: E82 135i/ E90 335i/ F30 328i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baldwin Park, CA Posts: 756 iTrader: (3)	N20 328i Intake Prototype What's up guys, we just finished up with the prototype of our intake today, what do you guys think? The finished product will most likely be anodized black. We will also be offering the option of a closed box most likely made out of carbon fiber for those that want cooler air. We also have protypes of our finished downpipes, charge-pipe, and exhaust for the 328i so be sure to drop by our booth at Bimmerfest to check them all out.
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03-26-2012, 09:56 PM	#4
justinnum1 Brigadier General Drives: 2013 335i Msport Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,793 iTrader: (0)	so what will that do for the N20? sound improvement? power increase? __________________ F30 335i Msport Estoril Blue/Black leather sport auto. black grills, Performance Exhaust, HK,

03-27-2012, 03:17 PM	#8
cstavaru Brigadier General Drives: 2009 335i M Sport Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 3,213 iTrader: (0)	Sorry ER, but you started on the cheap & easy road of hot air intakes. Do a proper cold air intake this time...it's a shame the N54 cheap intake saga is repeating itself. If I were a reputable company I would never create a hot air intake. __________________ Mods(click): Cobb + RB Turbos \| Aquamist HFS-4 Meth \| Drexler LSD \| Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit \| Custom K&N Apollo Intake \| Wagner Intercooler \| Macht Schnell Downpipes \| BMW Performance Power Kit \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Short Shifter \| M3 Subframe Bushings \| Licensing

03-27-2012, 06:29 PM	#9
rackley Enlisted Member Drives: Deployed Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	As much as I hate to see cone filters on a pipe, he has a point about the IC. IF the IC is properly sized (I say "if" because I have no first hand data on the F30), it doesn't matter a whole lot what the intake air temp is. The turbo compressing the air is where most of the heat comes from and IC should cool the charged air to within probably 10-15*F of ambient air temp. Whether or not the IC is big enough to deal with the increased air temp only before/after IAT measurements would show. __________________ 2013 335i - When deployment is over in Nov 2007 335i - Sold for deployment 2006 550i - Boat, traded in for 335i

04-10-2012, 07:00 AM	#17
EuroTunerz5 Captain Drives: 2012 AW BMW 135i M-Sport PPK Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 658 iTrader: (6)	I want exhaust! __________________ 2012 BMW 135i M-Sport PPK AW with Black Boston Leather... MODS: RPi GT Quad Exhaust, VMR v710 Gunmetal 19" Staggered (et45/et45), Khumo Ecsta SPT 225/35/19 and 255/30/19, 30% Tint, JBSpeed Black Kidney Grills, RPi Red Intake Scoops,

03-26-2012, 08:43 PM	#2
328i4me First Lieutenant Drives: 08 E92 335xi Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 326 iTrader: (4)	nice! can't wait to see your other products for the 328i!

03-26-2012, 09:46 PM	#3
Blake P Kinda Like A Big Deal Drives: F31 on order Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 393 iTrader: (0)	Without a proper heat shield or enclosed air box, isn't it just mixing hot air from the engine with the cooler outside air?

03-27-2012, 10:41 AM	#6
Blake P Kinda Like A Big Deal Drives: F31 on order Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 393 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the great explanation!

03-27-2012, 10:46 AM	#7
RJCrew Private Drives: 335i lux/mineral white/ED Apr Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Va Beach Posts: 80 iTrader: (0)	Good Job! Can't wait the dyno.

03-27-2012, 08:53 PM	#10
SMGFTW Enlisted Member Drives: 2005 BMW M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	Awesome, I think with a couple bolt-on's the 328i can easily hit 300whp.

03-28-2012, 07:40 AM	#12
TEAShea Private First Class Drives: 2012 328i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 179 iTrader: (0)	It looks like it takes is hotter air and less air than the stock system. Contrary to your statement, the temperature of intake air with a turbo is critical. That is why the car has an intercooler. A step back from stock. Tom

03-29-2012, 01:02 AM	#13
rhinosarge TheMan Drives: Black Sapphire F30 Sedan Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 18 iTrader: (0)	looks very good

03-30-2012, 12:35 PM	#14
scorpionkit76 New Member Drives: c4 thp 156 hp Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: istanbul Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	at the end a dyno run tell the truth..

04-06-2012, 07:51 PM	#15
Evolution Racewerks Captain Drives: E82 135i/ E90 335i/ F30 328i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baldwin Park, CA Posts: 756 iTrader: (3)	Dyno will be coming very soon with hood open and hood closed so I will let the numbers speak for itself.

04-10-2012, 04:28 AM	#16
Evolution Racewerks Captain Drives: E82 135i/ E90 335i/ F30 328i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baldwin Park, CA Posts: 756 iTrader: (3)	Additionally, we will be releasing multiple variants of this intake ranging from the economical open air short ram intake as shown all the way to a full blown carbon fiber enclosed CAI.

04-29-2012, 10:03 PM	#18
Evolution Racewerks Captain Drives: E82 135i/ E90 335i/ F30 328i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baldwin Park, CA Posts: 756 iTrader: (3)	bump, could mods please move this to the N20 forum. Thank you!

04-29-2012, 10:23 PM	#19
francis_william Private First Class Drives: 2012 328i sport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 158 iTrader: (0)	where is the dyno result ??

04-29-2012, 10:24 PM	#20
bcl0328 Captain Drives: 2012 328i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Abingdon, MD Posts: 955 iTrader: (0)	been over a month!

04-29-2012, 10:27 PM	#21
francis_william Private First Class Drives: 2012 328i sport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 158 iTrader: (0)

04-29-2012, 10:29 PM	#22
Evolution Racewerks Captain Drives: E82 135i/ E90 335i/ F30 328i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baldwin Park, CA Posts: 756 iTrader: (3)	We're waiting to finish up all of our parts (intake, downpipes, chargepipe, exhaust, and intercooler) and do a step by step dyno when everything is ready so we can keep daily external factors consistent

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