[E92LNGCGY]

Does anyone have info on the 320 that will be available in Spring? From what I've heard it will use the same N20 with about 180hp. Fuel consumption is 5.9L per 100km and starting price of $35,900. I'm glad the 320 name is back and hopefully an IS version as well.

[E90Fleet]

Yes, the 320i uses the N20, same as X1 20i and Z4 20i
184hp

X1 20i gets 5.9L/100km and 0-100km/h in 7.4s

[E92LNGCGY]

Thanks. This is going to be a great engine. I'm glad the 320 is coming. Who needs a hybrid when you can have a 320.

[bosz]

And now xenon and navigation are an option in the 320i.

if its software limiting the power, is there anyway to hack the software then?

[E92LNGCGY]

Originally Posted by bosz

And now xenon and navigation are an option in the 320i.

if its software limiting the power, is there anyway to hack the software then?

Really? That I didn't know. The 320 will be a great entry level BMW.

I'm sure there's a way to get more out of the motor. Those crazy European tuners has a tune with 294hp and 310 tq out of a N20.

[bosz]

Originally Posted by E92LNGCGY

Really? That I didn't know. The 320 will be a great entry level BMW.

I'm sure there's a way to get more out of the motor. Those crazy European tuners has a tune with 294hp and 310 tq out of a N20.

Here are the detailed packaging and pricing for canada: http://tcbmw.blogspot.com/2012/01/pa...012-bmw-3.html

[pokerface]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Its actually the exact same engine as the 328i uses. Software does the power limiting

Thanks for the details. Curious to know why Kelleners reported a different output for modified x20i vs the x28i.. 220hp post-tune vs 294hp post-tune with the ECU on the x28i

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...ght=n20+tuning

If it was software limited then would the output on both not expected to be the same after an "unlock"?

E92LNGCGY - I was told that the 320i starts March production and the earliest it would be available to look at would be end of March or early April. I am curious if it's proportionally underrated like the 328i is.

[Maz335i]

Guys I tried getting an answer to this before:

Does anyone know if we can choose "Lines" for the 320i? For example: Can I go for the 320i with the Sport Line?

I know this is available in the UK but I'm not sure about Canada...

[bosz]

Originally Posted by Maz335i

Guys I tried getting an answer to this before:

Does anyone know if we can choose "Lines" for the 320i? For example: Can I go for the 320i with the Sport Line?

I know this is available in the UK but I'm not sure about Canada...

no lines. Its going to be plain vanilla!

[clarence]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Software does the power limiting

I think there are some internal differences. For a start, the engine model code is different (N20B20 vs N20A20), some engine parts are different (e.g. different part #'s for the turbo, engine block etc.), & they have different compression ratios.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by clarence

I think there are some internal differences. For a start, the engine model code is different (N20B20 vs N20A20), some engine parts are different (e.g. different part #'s for the turbo, engine block etc.), & they have different compression ratios.

Look at the latest parts system updates
The X1 20i and Z4 20i engines changed from December 2011 to the N20 used in the 328i. Exact same part number and parts.

Earlier engines were different

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by pokerface

Thanks for the details. Curious to know why Kelleners reported a different output for modified x20i vs the x28i.. 220hp post-tune vs 294hp post-tune with the ECU on the x28i

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...ght=n20+tuning

If it was software limited then would the output on both not expected to be the same after an "unlock"?

E92LNGCGY - I was told that the 320i starts March production and the earliest it would be available to look at would be end of March or early April. I am curious if it's proportionally underrated like the 328i is.

Those figures would be for the engines before the December 2011 change

[clarence]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Look at the latest parts system updates
The X1 20i and Z4 20i engines changed from December 2011 to the N20 used in the 328i. Exact same part number and parts.

Earlier engines were different

How abt compression ratios? Yes, the X1 20i & 28i both have 10:1, but 320i/520i & 328i/528i still have 11:1 vs 10:1.
According to ETK 2/2012, 1/2012 production 520i & 528i still use different blocks unless for low compression markets.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by clarence

How abt compression ratios? Yes, the X1 20i & 28i both have 10:1, but 320i/520i & 328i/528i still have 11:1 vs 10:1.
According to ETK 2/2012, 1/2012 production 520i & 528i still use different blocks unless for low compression markets.

As you mention there is a normal and a low compression version depending on country options.
And some countries get different turbo chargers.

We will have to wait and see what version makes it to each country before we can make absolute comparisons.
All the info is not available yet and some has changed recently.

Different BMW models will also change engines at different times.
Lets wait and see

[Maz335i]

Originally Posted by bosz

no lines. Its going to be plain vanilla!

Oh man!

How would the new 3er look like without a line? Wonder if it'll look anything like the ones we've been seeing...

[E92LNGCGY]

Originally Posted by Maz335i

Oh man!

How would the new 3er look like without a line? Wonder if it'll look anything like the ones we've been seeing...

Maybe it'll look like a base model F30 sold in Europe? In other words not the best looking F30.

[bosz]

All it needs are nice 18" or 19" rims. And maybe a nicer grill down the road when aftermarket parts become more available.

[E92LNGCGY]

The 320 can be configured on BMW.ca now.

[Maz335i]

I don't know I always have problems accessing the bmw.ca configuration from my mac book pro. Tried finding a solution but no luck.

Let me try and get it done on my brother's laptop. I just want to see if the F30 320i looks any good. $35,900 is not bad at all for a starting price here in Canada plus we can get xenons, premium package and navigation.

Get some nice 19in rims, a carbon spoiler and the car is rolling!

[pokerface]

Originally Posted by Maz335i

Oh man!

How would the new 3er look like without a line? Wonder if it'll look anything like the ones we've been seeing...

looks like the exterior differences are in the wheels and the lack of garnish in the front foglamp area.

[Maz335i]

Originally Posted by pokerface

looks like the exterior differences are in the wheels and the lack of garnish in the front foglamp area.

I think you're right.

I have a feeling I came across a picture of it and it looked slightly different. I think the 320i will look like the one on the online configurator when you choose a 328i with no lines; any suggestions?

[walile]

Unfortunately the 320i in Canada cannot be configured with leather interior or sports seat.