BIMMERPOST First Drive of 2012 335i (and 328i Review) From F30 US Press Launch - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

boarchicken · 02-03-2012, 05:23 PM

CANT WAIT FOR THE COUPE!!

soapsuds · 02-03-2012, 11:28 PM

My old e46 330i had the sport package but non-staggered wheels, and the handling was awesome--really neutral. Fat rear tires might look cool, but they add understeer and limit tire rotation options (especially with directional tires). My 335i has the staggered tires, and even with the traction/stability control completely off it's almost impossible to get the car to rotate in the dry--I would rather have all four tires be the same.

Malbolge · 02-04-2012, 05:12 AM

Great review, thanks!

Jason, could you elaborate on the ride quality on bad roads (compared to E90 you've had). If you had to rate them, and E90 being let's say 3/10 on ride quality on run flats on bad roads, would F30 be around 6-7/10 judging by your review? Or even better?

Also, in which color did you think it looks best? Is Silver still nice for example, and is it close to monochrome TiAg or it has some shade to it? How did the dark color car look like - did it looks smaller and its lines were all hidden make it it look worse? just curious.

WULFFZA · 02-04-2012, 07:14 AM

Great review and vids, I've been addicted to bimmerpost all week ( more so than usual)... I can't wait to drive the new 328i, it seems to be the shining star of the range. I'll have mine in M-Sport, alpine white on black with adaptive suspension.

ATX78703 · 02-04-2012, 08:38 AM

Just saw that car and driver posted their 335i 6mt first drive online. They said they could only get 5.3s 0-60 time, which is slower than e90. Thoughts?

Nero7 · 02-04-2012, 09:12 AM

Jason do you know if the the cars that you have tested had lighting package? I saw this image and noticed that the 3 series have the same interior lighting in the doors as the f10 5 series which is awsome

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Diver · 02-04-2012, 09:24 AM

Someone will order this car with a manual transmission, but they really have to be shift for yourself die hard types who don't care about the hit on residual value.

justinnum1 · 02-04-2012, 09:25 AM

Not only do they have the lights under the windows...i think you can change the colors

Nero7 · 02-04-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

Not only do they have the lights under the windows...i think you can change the colors

Do you know if the lights are bright or soft? With m-sport i think you can choose white or red lights in instrument lighting, maybe it's the same in the doors.

motorwaytg1 · 02-04-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

Not only do they have the lights under the windows...i think you can change the colors

Do we know if the lights under the window standard or an optional extra ?

justinnum1 · 02-04-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by motorwaytg1

Do we know if the lights under the window standard or an optional extra ?

standard pretty sure

gnosis8 · 02-04-2012, 11:40 AM

Confirmed. If you search for "lighting" in the document link below, it shows that Ambiance lighting is standard on both 328i and 335i.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...Specs/DOT.aspx

BTW first time poster here. Can't wait to test drive the F30 soon, possibly to become my first BMW.

E92Alpine328i · 02-04-2012, 11:42 AM

Its too bad that car is ugly

09BlkSapphire · 02-05-2012, 02:32 AM

Very nice detailed writeup. Always liked seeing videos matched with words which are hard to really vizualize sometimes by themselves. Those laps by the BMW drivers were insane!

DylanMckay · 02-05-2012, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATX78703

Just saw that car and driver posted their 335i 6mt first drive online. They said they could only get 5.3s 0-60 time, which is slower than e90. Thoughts?

Why would you expect a faster time? It is the same engine as the e90 had going out and both cars weigh within 70 pounds of each other.

They also probably tested an n54 engine-which was way underrated and have no doubt the n55 will never be that underrated again

EdwinF10 · 02-05-2012, 05:19 AM

Thanks Jason, great review!

cstavaru · 02-05-2012, 07:48 AM

I think BMW should really step up and bring a twin-turbo engine back...it's shameful how it's like 0.5 seconds slower to 62mph than the e90 335i. I'm sure the 335i vs S4 reviews will not give the 335i the winning trophy anymore. I won't buy a BMW with the N55 engine.

KORALLROT · 02-05-2012, 07:56 AM

I spy a clown nose.

justinnum1 · 02-05-2012, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

I think BMW should really step up and bring a twin-turbo engine back...it's shameful how it's like 0.5 seconds slower to 62mph than the e90 335i. I'm sure the 335i vs S4 reviews will not give the 335i the winning trophy anymore. I won't buy a BMW with the N55 engine.

Me neither, considering its probable 30-40 horses less than the N54 stock. n54 was epic.

bmwpride335i · 02-06-2012, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATX78703

Just saw that car and driver posted their 335i 6mt first drive online. They said they could only get 5.3s 0-60 time, which is slower than e90. Thoughts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinnum1

Me neither, considering its probable 30-40 horses less than the N54 stock. n54 was epic.

ATX78703, there's your answer.

LONG LIVE N54

DrivenByE30 · 02-06-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

Someone will order this car with a manual transmission, but they really have to be shift for yourself die hard types who don't care about the hit on residual value.

you talkin to me ?

i am keepin it forever!

tonmonde · 02-06-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fusion01

Great review, thanks. Owning the n54 for 6 months after a 4 cyl turbo I certainly appreciate the increase in power, but what with fuel prices on the up, I might revert in 3 yrs plus. Hoping for 300 HP and 35mpg + from the next 328i, then it's a done deal

I feel a quick tune will fix that even in the present

02-04-2012, 05:12 AM	#25
Malbolge Major General Drives: Montego E90 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pluto (which is not a planet) Posts: 5,053 iTrader: (1)	Great review, thanks! Jason, could you elaborate on the ride quality on bad roads (compared to E90 you've had). If you had to rate them, and E90 being let's say 3/10 on ride quality on run flats on bad roads, would F30 be around 6-7/10 judging by your review? Or even better? Also, in which color did you think it looks best? Is Silver still nice for example, and is it close to monochrome TiAg or it has some shade to it? How did the dark color car look like - did it looks smaller and its lines were all hidden make it it look worse? just curious. __________________ E90 325i Montego Blau - 2011-2012 (SOLD) E90 320d TiAg - 2007-2011 (SOLD) E36 320i Avus Blau Msport - 2007 (SOLD)

02-04-2012, 07:14 AM	#26
WULFFZA First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E90 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 353 iTrader: (0)	Great review and vids, I've been addicted to bimmerpost all week ( more so than usual)... I can't wait to drive the new 328i, it seems to be the shining star of the range. I'll have mine in M-Sport, alpine white on black with adaptive suspension. __________________ 2011 E90 335i M-Sport 6MT Alpine white - saddle brown 2005 Toyota 4Runner 4WD Sport Edition Silver

02-04-2012, 08:38 AM	#27
ATX78703 Captain Drives: 2011 328i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 724 iTrader: (0)	C&d 335i test Just saw that car and driver posted their 335i 6mt first drive online. They said they could only get 5.3s 0-60 time, which is slower than e90. Thoughts? __________________ 2011 X5 xDrive 35i Premium - 8AT, Cnv, Tch, 3rd Row, Cmfrt 2011 328i 4dr, 6MT - Sprt, Prm, Cmfrt

02-04-2012, 09:12 AM	#28
Nero7 Second Lieutenant Drives: F30 M-Sport 328i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 246 iTrader: (0)	Jason do you know if the the cars that you have tested had lighting package? I saw this image and noticed that the 3 series have the same interior lighting in the doors as the f10 5 series which is awsome . Attached Images Last edited by Nero7; 02-04-2012 at 09:37 AM.

02-04-2012, 09:24 AM	#29
Diver Colonel Drives: Black '12 135i DCT PPK Msport Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,030 iTrader: (0)	Someone will order this car with a manual transmission, but they really have to be shift for yourself die hard types who don't care about the hit on residual value. __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com

02-03-2012, 05:23 PM	#23
boarchicken Enlisted Member Drives: currently g35 2008 sedan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Glendale Posts: 43 iTrader: (0)	CANT WAIT FOR THE COUPE!!

02-03-2012, 11:28 PM	#24
soapsuds New Member Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	My old e46 330i had the sport package but non-staggered wheels, and the handling was awesome--really neutral. Fat rear tires might look cool, but they add understeer and limit tire rotation options (especially with directional tires). My 335i has the staggered tires, and even with the traction/stability control completely off it's almost impossible to get the car to rotate in the dry--I would rather have all four tires be the same.

02-04-2012, 09:25 AM	#30
justinnum1 Brigadier General Drives: 2013 335i Msport Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,793 iTrader: (0)	Not only do they have the lights under the windows...i think you can change the colors __________________ F30 335i Msport Estoril Blue/Black leather sport auto. black grills, Performance Exhaust, HK,

02-04-2012, 11:40 AM	#34
gnosis8 Private Drives: '13 F30 335i Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Glen Mills, PA Posts: 95 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 335i sedan [0.00]	Confirmed. If you search for "lighting" in the document link below, it shows that Ambiance lighting is standard on both 328i and 335i. http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...Specs/DOT.aspx BTW first time poster here. Can't wait to test drive the F30 soon, possibly to become my first BMW.

02-04-2012, 11:42 AM	#35
E92Alpine328i Euro.Techniks-EAST Drives: 2008 328i coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 1,213 iTrader: (0)	Its too bad that car is ugly __________________

02-05-2012, 02:32 AM	#36
09BlkSapphire SFinnery Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LA Posts: 674 iTrader: (0)	Very nice detailed writeup. Always liked seeing videos matched with words which are hard to really vizualize sometimes by themselves. Those laps by the BMW drivers were insane!

02-05-2012, 05:19 AM	#38
EdwinF10 Major Drives: f10 535d M & e70 X5 Xdrive35d Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,078 iTrader: (0)	Thanks Jason, great review! __________________ 2004 e87 118d (ret.), 2006 e92 335d (ret.), 2007 e92 330d (ret.), 2007 e87 130i M-sport (ret.), 2009 e92 M3 (ret.) 2009 e70 X5 35d & 2010 f10 535d M-sport

02-05-2012, 07:48 AM	#39
cstavaru Brigadier General Drives: 2009 335i M Sport Sedan 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 3,215 iTrader: (0)	I think BMW should really step up and bring a twin-turbo engine back...it's shameful how it's like 0.5 seconds slower to 62mph than the e90 335i. I'm sure the 335i vs S4 reviews will not give the 335i the winning trophy anymore. I won't buy a BMW with the N55 engine. __________________ Mods(click): Cobb + RB Turbos \| Aquamist HFS-4 Meth \| Drexler LSD \| Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit \| Custom K&N Apollo Intake \| Wagner Intercooler \| Macht Schnell Downpipes \| BMW Performance Power Kit \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Short Shifter \| M3 Subframe Bushings \| Licensing Last edited by cstavaru; 02-05-2012 at 08:00 AM.

02-05-2012, 07:56 AM	#40
KORALLROT ESTORILBLAU 2 Drives: f30 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,089 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2013 335i xDrive [5.00] 2006 330i [5.00] 2003 330xi [4.00]	I spy a clown nose. __________________ e21 e21 e46 e90 f30

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