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      11-03-2011, 07:00 AM   #133
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I agree with the first part, but not the second.

The new A4/S4 is nice, but the new face lift doesn't really add anything.
The face lift on the E90 did wonders, imo.

Recently I saw a photo comparison of the current A4 and the "lifted" one, and I conclude that the new one has lost some aggressiveness, both in the front, and especially in the rear.
The changes should NOT have been made.
Thus, the face lift is a FAIL, by virtue of comparison.
On it's own the A4 looks fine. Next to the one it replaces, it's fail.
What did they change on the rear....it looks the same to me, just different light graphics inside the taillights ?
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      11-03-2011, 10:31 PM   #134
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Audi saw the new BMW 3 series and laughed...so they made their facelift just as bad so they can save it for next MY

Audi is smart, why come out with big guns when your enemy is down playing
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      11-06-2011, 05:31 PM   #135
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It s hard to say who's better only seeing some photos.
In reality you'll understand better the shape, the angles and the car as an entire product.
Audi designed later the S4 model/engine than 335i and they will do the same with the new S6 over 550i. Here they are doing a very smart move.
Finally the last decision can be taken after test driving both models.
As from an enthusiast point of view, being a fan of one or another car you'll not keep it stock so it s not relevant which is the faster car when it leaves the gates of the factory
The new M Sport F30 looks awesome in my opinion and can be much more agressive with some nice touches
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      11-08-2011, 12:51 AM   #136
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3er hood is a bit too elongated for me but looks mean, rear is great
a4er looks like a bit droopie, windshield rake is better tho
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      11-13-2011, 09:56 AM   #137
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has anyone ever thought about this? id take this over the 3 anyday

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      11-13-2011, 11:25 AM   #138
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has anyone ever thought about this? id take this over the 3 anyday

More to a car than just looks...
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i meant with its design similarities, saying that its a very good car, you can also say more to a car than just the badge
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It s hard to say who's better only seeing some photos.
In reality you'll understand better the shape, the angles and the car as an entire product.
Audi designed later the S4 model/engine than 335i and they will do the same with the new S6 over 550i. Here they are doing a very smart move.
Finally the last decision can be taken after test driving both models.
As from an enthusiast point of view, being a fan of one or another car you'll not keep it stock so it s not relevant which is the faster car when it leaves the gates of the factory
The new M Sport F30 looks awesome in my opinion and can be much more agressive with some nice touches
I agree those photos arent very comprehensive, you can't see the cars' best angles. Kudos to BMW for making the base 3 so ugly and making the M-sport fascia a bit better, combining to actually make the M-Sport a worthwhile upgrade. I just hope they dont lose sales of the base model all in the name of selling a few more M-Sport packages and M3s.
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      11-13-2011, 07:44 PM   #141
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has anyone ever thought about this? id take this over the 3 anyday

To each his own. I, personally, think that is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen!
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      11-13-2011, 08:15 PM   #142
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To each his own. I, personally, think that is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen!
+1. Not to mention it probably drives like shit.
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