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      05-03-2011, 09:52 AM   #155
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They better make a 1-series sedan... the new 3 looks bigger then the e39. depressing.
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      05-03-2011, 12:10 PM   #156
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cool except for the mirrors... waiting for a coupe now...
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      05-03-2011, 12:44 PM   #157
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the only think i dont like are the lights on the mirror
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      05-03-2011, 01:03 PM   #158
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      05-03-2011, 01:47 PM   #159
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the more it is exposed, the more I'm worried. the pics so far offer hints it may look good (cos its looks are like those of e90) but the difference from e90 is not very signficant
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      05-03-2011, 02:02 PM   #160
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Thank god these pics "prove" that the headlights won't be like those on recent Jags in that they aren't 3" tall and look like slits. It really is very Japanese looking.

Never the less, everyone knows this car will be a hit, and if you say otherwise you are fooling yourself. I'd argue that BMW AG has poured so many tens of millions into the base design of this car to keep it SPORTY after hearing of it's devoted population's dislike of the car's feel from the early E3x/46 > E90 and the further loss from the E90 > F10.

Worried about weight? If so, you're within the 20% of the population who actually cares. What you really want is sportiness....and if there is room add some MPG, too. But, and I'm going out on a limb here...I'd wager you want the sportiness a bit more. IT WILL NOT DISAPPEAR. Indeed, if it does not improve, I'll become un-enthusiast VERY fast. BMW knows they stepped out of line in terms of weight and handling; this is their chance to improve it.

Now then, we know the engine stats (ballpark figures). I think the I4 will do wonders in a 320i or 325i, but that isn't the car for us. The I6, possibly tri-turbo charged, is going to be a sexy beast. But where are the figures on weight??! Fear not, the only way you'll see anything under 3,200 lb is if YOU strip the carpeting, seats, headliner, AC Heat, etc.

Frankly stripping all of that would be overboard, right?? Not if the fkn handling keeps going downhill. I will NOT purchase a smaller F10 with inherent F10 problems. Sure it looks good, but if the 2nd gen F10 isn't better then this 1st gen, BMW better start looking for more investors.
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      05-03-2011, 02:21 PM   #161
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I like the car, but after seeing the third update, it looks VERY e90ish... A little too much.

I also wish they could've spruced up the rear door a little bit, I actually like the smoothness of the e90 better in that respect. The F30 seems to throw it out of proportion while still resembling the e90.
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      05-03-2011, 03:05 PM   #162
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Whats with those god awful mirror reflector light things???
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      05-03-2011, 03:07 PM   #163
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it seems that the new 3 series is taking full attention from BMW. i am looking forward for the f30 with great anticipation.
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      05-03-2011, 03:31 PM   #164
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I would buy the sedan if I was on the market. The world ends in 2012.
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      05-03-2011, 03:52 PM   #167
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Looks like it will be an exact merge of a current 5 series with a e90...nothing different at all but as expected from this design team.
+1 Seems like an exact merge to me too.
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      05-03-2011, 03:57 PM   #168
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Is it just me, or does the hood seem "higher"? almost like you have to struggle to look over it from the driver's seat.

I also agree w/ the comments about it looking very similar to the e90.

The change doesn't appear to be as dramatic as from the e46 to the e90. It almost seems like more of a e90 LCI Part II...
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      05-03-2011, 03:59 PM   #169
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Thank god these pics "prove" that the headlights won't be like those on recent Jags in that they aren't 3" tall and look like slits. It really is very Japanese looking.

Never the less, everyone knows this car will be a hit, and if you say otherwise you are fooling yourself. I'd argue that BMW AG has poured so many tens of millions into the base design of this car to keep it SPORTY after hearing of it's devoted population's dislike of the car's feel from the early E3x/46 > E90 and the further loss from the E90 > F10.

Worried about weight? If so, you're within the 20% of the population who actually cares. What you really want is sportiness....and if there is room add some MPG, too. But, and I'm going out on a limb here...I'd wager you want the sportiness a bit more. IT WILL NOT DISAPPEAR. Indeed, if it does not improve, I'll become un-enthusiast VERY fast. BMW knows they stepped out of line in terms of weight and handling; this is their chance to improve it.

Now then, we know the engine stats (ballpark figures). I think the I4 will do wonders in a 320i or 325i, but that isn't the car for us. The I6, possibly tri-turbo charged, is going to be a sexy beast. But where are the figures on weight??! Fear not, the only way you'll see anything under 3,200 lb is if YOU strip the carpeting, seats, headliner, AC Heat, etc.

Frankly stripping all of that would be overboard, right?? Not if the fkn handling keeps going downhill. I will NOT purchase a smaller F10 with inherent F10 problems. Sure it looks good, but if the 2nd gen F10 isn't better then this 1st gen, BMW better start looking for more investors.

all i read was tri turbo......
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      05-03-2011, 04:09 PM   #170
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Taller profile tyres than an E90. Can see 225/50R17 on white car above. This makes the diameter of the F30's tyres almost 2 cm bigger than the tyres on an E90! E90 runs on 225/45R17. Seems the F30 is a much much bigger car.
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      05-03-2011, 04:13 PM   #171
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This looks so great! I can't wait!
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this is crazy, i cant remember seeing so many versions of FEP cars brought into public light at once ... its the wonderous onslaught of BMWs future

and i think they want us to know it
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      05-03-2011, 05:18 PM   #173
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definitely expecting this,
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this is crazy, i cant remember seeing so many versions of FEP cars brought into public light at once ... its the wonderous onslaught of BMWs future

and i think they want us to know it
These pictures are part of their web 2.0 marketing strategy for sure.
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      05-03-2011, 05:58 PM   #175
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Only thing I dislike is the size of the tailpipes when compared to the rear bumper. It's disproportionally small (twss) as if you're looking at a Civic rear end.
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Alot of baby 5-Series, in a very good way. The body style will be typical balanced 3-series, with some new design lines.

The most important and welcome change IMO is a move to the more aggressive headlight design that looks similar to the angled "angry" look of the 5-series. The 3 usually has a very middle of the road headlight design thats neither here nor there, so this new aggressive side is going to look amazing. I cant wait for the coupe.
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