F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 3-Series Sedan / F32 4-Series Coupe Forum > What will happen with the 323 in Canada?
Mtrack
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-20-2011, 12:21 PM   #1
E92LNGCGY
Captain
 
Drives: E92/F25/F82 ordered
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada

Posts: 774
iTrader: (0)

What will happen with the 323 in Canada?

I'm sure most of you know this but in Canada we have an entry level 323 as our base model. Since the 328 motor will be replaced by the Turbo 4 in the F30 does it mean the 323 will be dropped? Or should we expect to receive a 200hp ish Turbo 4?

Any thoughts?
E92LNGCGY is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 03:44 PM   #2
epiphone3
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2013 BMW X3 35i
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary

Posts: 1,646
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E92LNGCGY View Post
I'm sure most of you know this but in Canada we have an entry level 323 as our base model. Since the 328 motor will be replaced by the Turbo 4 in the F30 does it mean the 323 will be dropped? Or should we expect to receive a 200hp ish Turbo 4?

Any thoughts?
I wouldn't be surprised to see a detuned version of the N20 turbo 4 go into a 323 replacement or, they may take one of the smaller 4 or even 3-cylinder turbo charged engines and put that in a 323 replacement. I think they had plans for a 1.6 liter turbo-charged 3-cylinder that would make something like 180 hp. Maybe that would be the one?
epiphone3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 03:49 PM   #3
issabmw
cool beans
 
Drives: E30|E90|Godzilla
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sunshine State

Posts: 1,364
iTrader: (2)

Very good question. Although it would be dumb to detune it and charge a higher premium for the N20s standard numbers, I don't doubt it.

As epiphone3 said, they'll probably shave off some displacement or cylinders. The 3 cylinder could very well be in the next 323, but then you're forgetting about the euro 320 and 318. What would they get?
issabmw is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      04-20-2011, 06:00 PM   #4
E92LNGCGY
Captain
 
Drives: E92/F25/F82 ordered
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada

Posts: 774
iTrader: (0)

I just can't see BMW putting a 3 cylinder in the F30 (at least in NA). In a way it may damage their image. I'm thinking either a detuned N20 or a smaller displacement 4 Turbo.
E92LNGCGY is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-21-2011, 07:02 AM   #5
mkoesel
Moderator
 
Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

Posts: 13,019
iTrader: (1)

Good question. As long as the 3 cylinder makes at least 200hp, I don't see why it wouldn't work for the Canadian entry level 3 series.

That said, it may not necessarily be likely. epiphone pretty muched covered all three possibilities. With the debut of the F20 1 series in just a few months (and an internet reveal sometime before that) we should know at least one more piece of the puzzle. As SCOTT says, the F20 will have an all turbocharged engine lineup. And I have to believe there will be some gasoline models available from introduction with less than the ~240hp the N20 has been seen with so far. My guess is whatever powers the next gasoline model down from the upcoming 128i (be it a 125i or perhaps a 123i) will also power the Canadian 323i.

At this point it seems like it will be a lower output N20, but there is also an "N13B16" four cylinder coming too, according to rumor. Though it remains to be seen if that will be featured only in the upcoming range of FWD 1 series models that share the next Mini platform, or if they will adopt it to the RWD 1 and/or 3 series model also.
__________________
2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT
2011 Salsa Red Jetta TDI Sportwagen - DSG
mkoesel is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-21-2011, 09:45 AM   #6
E92LNGCGY
Captain
 
Drives: E92/F25/F82 ordered
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada

Posts: 774
iTrader: (0)

Another possibility may be to drop the 323 and have the 328 as entry level model just like the US. The reason I say this is because the next gen 1 series will have 4dr as well so it makes sense to push the 3 upscale and let the 1 be the entry level with a turbo 4 or turbo 3.
E92LNGCGY is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-21-2011, 09:59 AM   #7
mkoesel
Moderator
 
Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

Posts: 13,019
iTrader: (1)

^ Remember though, a four door 1 series will not be here any time soon. It would probably be 2014 a the earliest. Also, according to SCOTT it would, if approved for production, most probably come in the form of Gran Coupe, not a proper sedan.
__________________
2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT
2011 Salsa Red Jetta TDI Sportwagen - DSG
mkoesel is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-21-2011, 11:42 AM   #8
Frenk
Lieutenant
 
Drives: e92 328i X-Drive M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Québec

Posts: 511
iTrader: (0)

e46 320i was available in Canada, then they eliminated it with e90

So I guess, it could start with 325i this time, no ?
Frenk is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      04-21-2011, 02:06 PM   #9
epiphone3
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2013 BMW X3 35i
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary

Posts: 1,646
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frenk View Post
e46 320i was available in Canada, then they eliminated it with e90

So I guess, it could start with 325i this time, no ?
My guess is that you will see a 328i and 335i to start the F30 line. They will probably then be joined by a 323i a few months later. Within a year or two of that, my guess is that you see a 325i, 330i, and 335i line up in Canada.
epiphone3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:56 PM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST