Autocar speculates that F30 3-Series will use the oft rumored 150HP 3-Cylinder engine - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

Mark · 01-07-2011, 08:15 PM

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F30 3-Series with a 3-Cylinder Engine?

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Autocar Magazine in the UK is speculating that the rumored 3-cylinder engine that BMW has been working on for some time now, will be seen under the hood of the F30 3-Series. This should come as no surprise, as the 3-Series is the bread and butter volume car in the BMW brand, and such an efficient engine would go a long way into promoting BMW as THE brand for sustainability.

The engine itself is rumored to be a 1.5L 3-Cylinder diesel engine putting out 150HP and produce less than 100g/km of CO2. Its already been rumored that this engine setup, which will come in both diesel and regular gasoline formats will drive the smaller cars in the BMW lineup such as the 1-Series and the new Sub 1-Series compact car.

This car will certainly be seen in European, Asian and Middle Eastern markets, but the key question to be seen is whether BMW would decide to introduce such an engine to the US market. So far, BMW USA has shied away from bringing over BMWs smaller engine offerings to the states and such a car here in the US seems highly unlikely at this time.

The new 3 is on track to make its first public debut at the Frankfurt Autoshow later in 2011! (http://www.bimmerpost.com/future-bmw)

Source: Autocar

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PaulBailey@ltbmw · 01-07-2011, 09:04 PM

Interesting...

GOLFFRR · 01-07-2011, 09:15 PM

very interesting in deed. Def agree with the article and dont see this coming to the states. US customers would have issues buying a 3 cylinder. but who knows. Render looks great

richardg · 01-07-2011, 09:16 PM

I think this will be a good thing. It will be slow but honestly 99% of the time that is fine. As long as it has good driving dynamics I am sure it will still be a great car.

fifa · 01-07-2011, 09:19 PM

what's with the tiny engines in the f30's?

Bullet · 01-07-2011, 09:21 PM

Honestly i dont see this doing well in the states....

Blubaron79 · 01-07-2011, 09:21 PM

Rendering looks tits.

Mark · 01-07-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

very interesting in deed. Def agree with the article and dont see this coming to the states. US customers would have issues buying a 3 cylinder. but who knows. Render looks great

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Rendering looks tits.

Yea, the rendering is awesome, its actually from here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457909

cmk227 · 01-07-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

very interesting in deed. Def agree with the article and dont see this coming to the states. US customers would have issues buying a 3 cylinder. but who knows. Render looks great

Why not for a daily driver it great when I want more power I just take the M.

GuyOh · 01-07-2011, 10:03 PM

render looks hotttt

MusclezMarinara · 01-07-2011, 10:14 PM

i say 4 cylinder turbo

crackberry · 01-07-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Rendering looks tits.

agreed.

but 150 hp? my camry has the same hp. lil underwhelming if you ask me.

machine · 01-07-2011, 10:55 PM

Cant wait to see elderly people walking faster then a BMW.

Its already too heavy of a car to begin with. 4 cylinder turbo in the absolute minimum.

LACSTER · 01-07-2011, 10:55 PM

Got MPG?

Robert · 01-07-2011, 10:56 PM

This won't sell in U.S. 4 cylinder Civic Si is going to run circle around it and probably still more fuel efficient at lower price.

skiernan36 · 01-07-2011, 11:04 PM

the less hp is fine in my opinion...as long as they lower the weight, a lot

jmunro · 01-07-2011, 11:04 PM

What's with all the next Gen 3 Series renderings having a new front end with an e90/e92 rear end. Time to produce a rendering with a next gen rear end....!

amdmaxx · 01-07-2011, 11:21 PM

50mpg.. and $5/gallon gas/diesel

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Originally Posted by fifa

what's with the tiny engines in the f30's?

bmwpride335i · 01-07-2011, 11:25 PM

wonder how much it would be for a 3 cyl. model. little awkward place in the market, dont you guys think? can't be competing against accords / camrys... may be TSX type of price? hm...

GregTheStig · 01-07-2011, 11:42 PM

The average owner will be fine with 150 hp.... not me, but if people can buy a 90 hp Prius they'd love to get a 150 hp Bimmer as long is it's clean and efficient. I don't think a lot of people care about power anymore

bmrm396 · 01-07-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GregTheStig

The average owner will be fine with 150 hp.... not me, but if people can buy a 90 hp Prius they'd love to get a 150 hp Bimmer as long is it's clean and efficient. I don't think a lot of people care about power anymore

dude the avg BMW owner would NOT be happy with 150hp in a car thats already looking to be longer and wider than the current e90, that = heavier ...

i dont think that was in the strategic development plan for the f30 in the US, it has to do with overall fleet mpg .. just my 2c

Geoffjr@isringhausen · 01-08-2011, 12:32 AM

They're only implementing it to hit their 2016 fleet mpg goal imo...

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richardg Captain Drives: e36M / e92M / e36 328i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bloomfield Hills Mi. Posts: 936 iTrader: (2)	I think this will be a good thing. It will be slow but honestly 99% of the time that is fine. As long as it has good driving dynamics I am sure it will still be a great car.

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machine is also an E46 Fanatic Drives: E93 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 533 iTrader: (0)	Cant wait to see elderly people walking faster then a BMW. Its already too heavy of a car to begin with. 4 cylinder turbo in the absolute minimum.

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Robert Major General Drives: 135i, current is350 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 6,765 iTrader: (1)	This won't sell in U.S. 4 cylinder Civic Si is going to run circle around it and probably still more fuel efficient at lower price. __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint

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skiernan36 stick to your guns Drives: 2007 335i 2012 Audi Q5 2.0T Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fredericksburg, Va Posts: 447 iTrader: (0)	the less hp is fine in my opinion...as long as they lower the weight, a lot __________________ "Speed has never killed anyone...suddenly becoming stationary, thats what gets you."-Jeremy Clarkson

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bmwpride335i Major Drives: 07 SUPERCHARGED 680HP VETTE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,344 iTrader: (1)	wonder how much it would be for a 3 cyl. model. little awkward place in the market, dont you guys think? can't be competing against accords / camrys... may be TSX type of price? hm...

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