2013 F30 3-Series Body Profile/Proportion Illustrated vs E90 / E46 - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

illirep · 12-24-2009, 09:03 AM

nice work. pretty cool talent you have there.

Frosty · 12-24-2009, 10:21 AM

Awesome work!

...as a coupe fanatic I cant help but try to envision a coupe with pedestrian impact regulations applied as the F30 will have...

...looking forward to the F32! Hard to believe it mayhave a more squarish Z4 nose

~Frost

bman8 · 12-24-2009, 01:10 PM

Great job

It looks like front row head room is improved a little bit.

Mii · 12-24-2009, 06:20 PM

Thanks all! Here is another trace based on a better angle straight-on side view from one of the F30 video. The first spy shot had partial skewed from camera perspective. Instead of tracing camo lights, I applied design cues from F01 and F10. The final design is yet to be seen.

noro · 12-24-2009, 09:49 PM

Nice work once again. Listen let's presume the overall tire diameter is the same (as E46/E9X), how precise can we get about predicting the true length and height of the car?

Edit: Overall diameter of the tire is 25"

kushtrim · 12-25-2009, 12:21 AM

good work man

Mii · 12-25-2009, 12:51 PM

^^Based on tire diameter scaling on side view profile of the video shot.

Estimate dimension of F30: (+/- 0.6% (0.006) margin of error)

Height: 55.8"
Length: 178.7"
Wheelbase: 110.2"

sports carma · 12-25-2009, 10:24 PM

Great capture and sketchup Mii. A lot of attention to detail. They clearly seem to be moving to more of the sharknose style of the Z4 while increasing the wheelbase and bulking up the boot. Given the other current styling trends, I also wouldn't be a bit surprised to still see more curves or creases. I like that the 3's are getting a little less sterile, but I hope they don't go over the top with the sculpting. Although the newer Z4 styling shows a little more aggressiveness, I liked the simplicity of the previous sheet metal.

But again, nice work on giving us a peek!

r888 · 12-26-2009, 12:06 AM

Great job!

Wretched · 01-04-2010, 01:54 PM

Great Job! Thank You! I really hope the 3 survives some of the nose treatment everything else is getting...

R1200RT · 01-07-2010, 01:03 AM

I wonder how they are going to engineer hybrid technology or full plug-in into it whilst keeping it in good balance?

The Voiper · 01-07-2010, 07:32 AM

I agree with BMW16, the E46 is a much nicer looking car than the E90. They need to make the F30 look lower and wider and fix the awkward looking head and tail lights of the E90. The trace seems to do that, great work Mii. I'm sure Adrian will weave his magic and not disappoint.

noro · 01-07-2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mii

^^Based on tire diameter scaling on side view profile of the video shot.

Estimate dimension of F30: (+/- 0.6% (0.006) margin of error)

Height: 55.8"
Length: 178.7"
Wheelbase: 110.2"

Nice, looks like it won't grow much.

Bimmerforlife · 01-09-2010, 09:34 PM

BMW Blog is reporting that the 2011 BMW X3 is built on the next generation 3Series platform.

So when we see the 2011 X3 will that give us any indication of what the F30 will look like with regard to looks?

Mii · 01-10-2010, 03:05 PM

^Under BMW new module platform, F30 3er is sharing platform among new Z4, 3er GT, and X3. We may get idea of design language and element from F25 X3 such as creases, curves, etc. Though each model will remain unique to each own with details. For example, F01 7er, F07 5er GT, and the new F10 5er are all under common platform with different look on each own while sharing similar design elements. According to BMW insider, the best place to locate camouflage off X3 will be in Spartanburg, by then we can get a closer look of the new X3 design detail.

vortex_tuning · 02-02-2010, 11:11 AM

Amazing work!

GregTheStig · 02-09-2010, 09:08 PM

I can't wait to see this uncovered!!

rocco · 02-15-2010, 04:09 PM

just fyi ... all links to the images are broken. Would love to see the renderings.

Castel · 02-23-2010, 12:44 PM

Wow, that trace looks awesome. Great work Mii!

Gig103 · 03-30-2010, 07:03 PM

Woah, very cool analysis!

zibawal · 03-30-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Voiper

I agree with BMW16, the E46 is a much nicer looking car than the E90. They need to make the F30 look lower and wider and fix the awkward looking head and tail lights of the E90. The trace seems to do that, great work Mii. I'm sure Adrian will weave his magic and not disappoint.

I agree! More well balanced looking car imo too.

MikeTerp · 04-26-2010, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mii

^^Based on tire diameter scaling on side view profile of the video shot.

Estimate dimension of F30: (+/- 0.6% (0.006) margin of error)

Height: 55.8"
Length: 178.7"
Wheelbase: 110.2"

Boy, I hope these numbers are correct (or as you suggest, very close). Just about every pub I have read is predicting a longer, wider F30 compared to the E90. BMW has gone "bigger" consistently over the past few model cycles, especially the 5er. Given the upcoming CAFE increases, it seems bizarre that so many car companies are going bigger/heavier, even if they are down-sizing engines.
Let's hope that BMW not only holds the line on size but also gets some of the weight out of the 3er.

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12-24-2009, 06:20 PM	#26
Mii First Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 371 iTrader: (0)	2012 F30 3-Series Body Profile Trace Update Thanks all! Here is another trace based on a better angle straight-on side view from one of the F30 video. The first spy shot had partial skewed from camera perspective. Instead of tracing camo lights, I applied design cues from F01 and F10. The final design is yet to be seen. Last edited by Mii; 12-24-2009 at 09:59 PM.

12-24-2009, 09:49 PM	#27
noro Colonel Drives: E30 M3 / E46 ZHP Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 2,601 iTrader: (0)	Nice work once again. Listen let's presume the overall tire diameter is the same (as E46/E9X), how precise can we get about predicting the true length and height of the car? Edit: Overall diameter of the tire is 25" __________________ zhpregistry.net - ZHP stats and free classifieds.

12-25-2009, 10:24 PM	#30
sports carma New Member Drives: 2008 Black 335i Sedan e90 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	Should be interesting Great capture and sketchup Mii. A lot of attention to detail. They clearly seem to be moving to more of the sharknose style of the Z4 while increasing the wheelbase and bulking up the boot. Given the other current styling trends, I also wouldn't be a bit surprised to still see more curves or creases. I like that the 3's are getting a little less sterile, but I hope they don't go over the top with the sculpting. Although the newer Z4 styling shows a little more aggressiveness, I liked the simplicity of the previous sheet metal. But again, nice work on giving us a peek!

12-26-2009, 12:06 AM	#31
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12-24-2009, 09:03 AM	#23
illirep Major Drives: 2002 M5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mercer County, NJ Posts: 1,357 iTrader: (28)	nice work. pretty cool talent you have there.

12-24-2009, 01:10 PM	#25
bman8 Private Drives: 09' E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 74 iTrader: (1)	Great job It looks like front row head room is improved a little bit.

12-25-2009, 12:21 AM	#28
kushtrim Major Drives: AW 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: bronx N.Y Posts: 1,084 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 335i coupe [5.00]	good work man

12-25-2009, 12:51 PM	#29
Mii First Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 371 iTrader: (0)	^^Based on tire diameter scaling on side view profile of the video shot. Estimate dimension of F30: (+/- 0.6% (0.006) margin of error) Height: 55.8" Length: 178.7" Wheelbase: 110.2"

01-04-2010, 01:54 PM	#32
Wretched Private Drives: 2006 E90 330i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 63 iTrader: (0)	Great Job! Thank You! I really hope the 3 survives some of the nose treatment everything else is getting...

01-07-2010, 01:03 AM	#33
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01-07-2010, 07:32 AM	#34
The Voiper New Member Drives: e92 335i Titanium Silver Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Australia Posts: 17 iTrader: (0)	F30 I agree with BMW16, the E46 is a much nicer looking car than the E90. They need to make the F30 look lower and wider and fix the awkward looking head and tail lights of the E90. The trace seems to do that, great work Mii. I'm sure Adrian will weave his magic and not disappoint.

01-09-2010, 09:34 PM	#36
Bimmerforlife Karen Carpenter-a star on earth-a star in heaven Drives: 2011 335i Sedan Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: FL Posts: 707 iTrader: (0)	BMW Blog is reporting that the 2011 BMW X3 is built on the next generation 3Series platform. So when we see the 2011 X3 will that give us any indication of what the F30 will look like with regard to looks?

01-10-2010, 03:05 PM	#37
Mii First Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 371 iTrader: (0)	^Under BMW new module platform, F30 3er is sharing platform among new Z4, 3er GT, and X3. We may get idea of design language and element from F25 X3 such as creases, curves, etc. Though each model will remain unique to each own with details. For example, F01 7er, F07 5er GT, and the new F10 5er are all under common platform with different look on each own while sharing similar design elements. According to BMW insider, the best place to locate camouflage off X3 will be in Spartanburg, by then we can get a closer look of the new X3 design detail.

02-02-2010, 11:11 AM	#38
vortex_tuning Banned Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,350 iTrader: (3)	Amazing work!

02-09-2010, 09:08 PM	#39
GregTheStig derp Drives: a Tuk Tuk Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,202 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00]	I can't wait to see this uncovered!!

02-15-2010, 04:09 PM	#40
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02-23-2010, 12:44 PM	#41
Castel Captain Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 731 iTrader: (6)	Wow, that trace looks awesome. Great work Mii!

03-30-2010, 07:03 PM	#42
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