f30 2011 E9x supersport = 340? - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

stressdoc · 11-06-2009, 10:39 PM

Car has some interesting speculations...

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...-new-2011-F30/

MCMLXXXIX · 11-06-2009, 10:48 PM

340i???
wow

JoeyBananaz18 · 11-06-2009, 11:01 PM

when i hear "-40" i automatically thing of a v8. i say go for a 339 or less. 337 would make a good looking badge. 338could be like 1 more than a G37 lol. very interesting.

Noc57 · 11-06-2009, 11:06 PM

360hp TT 340?....

Cool stuff.

ejazbmw · 11-06-2009, 11:06 PM

i can see this happening i mean bmw tends to do things with 5 intervals 325 330 335 but the 328 fucked up my theory lol

JakeN5 · 11-06-2009, 11:08 PM

Uh oh! I hope reliability is not compromised by the time crunch. And we all know what the new model designation 340i means: Munich is scheming to push the 3-series range into an even higher price bracket. That's not a way to recoup lost sale.

MCMLXXXIX · 11-06-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ejazbmw

i can see this happening i mean bmw tends to do things with 5 intervals 325 330 335 but the 328 fucked up my theory lol

lol how about the 323, 318. your theory still applies

ugh so many

Noc57 · 11-06-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MCMLXXXIX

lol how about the 323, 318. your theory still applies

ugh so many

I thought the same, but if you think about it what's the interval between 318 and 323?

It is indeed "5".

ejazbmw · 11-06-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCMLXXXIX

lol how about the 323, 318. your theory still applies

ugh so many

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noc57

I thought the same, but if you think about it what's the interval between 318 and 323?

It is indeed "5".

oh shit i forgot about those maybe the 340 is possible lol

jopa489 · 11-07-2009, 12:15 AM

Not sure how accurate this is. BMW has always been careful when it comes to non-M cars getting too close in power to M equivalents. A 360HP TT 340i and 410HP TT M3 seem too close. Anything's possible and it's too early to know for sure, but right now I'm betting it won't happen.

BMW has already announced the F01 740d (and presumably F10 540d in the near future) which is a 3.0L diesel with 300HP and 443 lb-ft. Honestly, this engine seems more likely in to be in the F30 lineup than what Car is reporting, and could be the 340 they're predicting.

I can't picture them downgrading the 3er convertible to a canvas roof either.

klipseracer · 11-07-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jopa489

Not sure how accurate this is. BMW has always been careful when it comes to non-M cars getting too close in power to M equivalents. A 360HP TT 340i and 410HP TT M3 seem too close. Anything's possible and it's too early to know for sure, but right now I'm betting it won't happen.

BMW has already announced the F01 740d (and presumably F10 540d in the near future) which is a 3.0L diesel with 300HP and 443 lb-ft. Honestly, this engine seems more likely in to be in the F30 lineup than what Car is reporting, and could be the 340 they're predicting.

I can't picture them downgrading the 3er convertible to a canvas roof either.

If they make it a rag top i'll be SOOO disappointed.

Zell · 11-07-2009, 12:43 AM

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Further down the model range, the 3.0-litre inline six powerplant features a couple more times. The 335i makes a comeback, although it loses a turbo and power drops to around 280bhp to make room for a completely new car, the 340i

Boo. The 330 will be the "lower end" BMW of the states and replace the 328.

stressdoc · 11-07-2009, 10:41 AM

Part of the strategy involves meeting the competition at established set-points. In the case of the 340i, it has the Audi S4/S5 clearly in its sights. The 3-level marketing strategy of Audi (A,S,RS) can be effectively countered by BMW's broader range of engines. As per C&D's latest comparo, the soft spot for BMW is the 335 vs. the S4, because the 335 lacks a real performance variant (ZMP is show without beef).

I have been surprised at how slow BMW is to respond to, what for me seemed obvious, future contingencies. Why not bring a 50+mpg 4 cyl to market in the US? Why not put some beef into the ZMP package to beat the S4 in that niche?

When you let the accountants call the shots, we get M SUVs.

lonestar22 · 11-07-2009, 12:32 PM

each year the m3 goes up in about 80-100 horsepower. this will be the first time it stays the same. i hope this car isnt based off he e90 like alot of new cars are doing.

the new mustang looks like the old one by the doors, and so does the new vw mkvi

bluespeed117 · 12-10-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar22

each year the m3 goes up in about 80-100 horsepower. this will be the first time it stays the same. i hope this car isnt based off he e90 like alot of new cars are doing.

the new mustang looks like the old one by the doors, and so does the new vw mkvi

it may be gaining the same horsepower, but it is shedding some weight.

veightkiller · 12-11-2009, 01:22 AM

WoW

Alan l. · 12-11-2009, 10:56 AM

Seriously with the amount of issues that is typical of first year bmw's and the rest (HPFP) I would be very cautious of this model if bmw all of a sudden decided to push production up a full year. Seems like they are rushing into this new model.

Also, unless they plan on doing away with the 328 model it doesn't make much sense to have a 328, 335, 340 below the M3. A well optioned 335 now already pushes over 50K which isn't much off of a base M3. I just don't see how they could slot in another model inbetween.

floot_roops · 12-11-2009, 11:06 AM

What about the part indicating the 335 will drop in power? Do you think they're going to drop the price a bit, too, to make room for the 340 slot?

That's kind of annoying... Only because you'll have to start qualifying which 335 a car is (e9x or f30, since they'd have different power outputs)... Or am I not reading that correctly?

Draven · 12-13-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by klipseracer

If they make it a rag top i'll be SOOO disappointed.

I won't. My e93 will hold its value better, haha. : )

bavarian19 · 12-13-2009, 08:52 PM

The M3 will probably keep the same hp, but get a boost in torque.

I doubt BMW will go with the 340 designation. The 335 has made a name for itself, and will probably just be left as 335.

11-06-2009, 10:39 PM	#1
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11-06-2009, 11:01 PM	#3
JoeyBananaz18 Brigadier General Drives: metrocard Join Date: May 2009 Location: Whitestone, NY Posts: 3,610 iTrader: (2)	when i hear "-40" i automatically thing of a v8. i say go for a 339 or less. 337 would make a good looking badge. 338could be like 1 more than a G37 lol. very interesting. __________________ 7/18/09- I pick up my baby- 2009 E92 335i Xdrive, Space Gray over Coral Red. Premium Pkg, Cold Weather Pkg, M-Sport Pkg, 193Ms, Gloss Black grills, Custom Gloss Black Mirrors, Performance shift and E-brake boot, M3 spoiler, Euro fog switch, gloss black interior tim, Coco-Mats (red/black), H&R coilovers, 19'' Alufelgen SF-71s......

11-06-2009, 11:06 PM	#4
Noc57 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: e92 335 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,868 iTrader: (0)	360hp TT 340?.... Cool stuff. __________________

11-07-2009, 12:15 AM	#10
jopa489 BMW/Detailing Addict Drives: Estoril F30 335i 6MT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New England Posts: 6,554 iTrader: (8)	Not sure how accurate this is. BMW has always been careful when it comes to non-M cars getting too close in power to M equivalents. A 360HP TT 340i and 410HP TT M3 seem too close. Anything's possible and it's too early to know for sure, but right now I'm betting it won't happen. BMW has already announced the F01 740d (and presumably F10 540d in the near future) which is a 3.0L diesel with 300HP and 443 lb-ft. Honestly, this engine seems more likely in to be in the F30 lineup than what Car is reporting, and could be the 340 they're predicting. I can't picture them downgrading the 3er convertible to a canvas roof either. __________________

11-07-2009, 10:41 AM	#13
stressdoc Moderator Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MO Posts: 9,341 iTrader: (0)	Part of the strategy involves meeting the competition at established set-points. In the case of the 340i, it has the Audi S4/S5 clearly in its sights. The 3-level marketing strategy of Audi (A,S,RS) can be effectively countered by BMW's broader range of engines. As per C&D's latest comparo, the soft spot for BMW is the 335 vs. the S4, because the 335 lacks a real performance variant (ZMP is show without beef). I have been surprised at how slow BMW is to respond to, what for me seemed obvious, future contingencies. Why not bring a 50+mpg 4 cyl to market in the US? Why not put some beef into the ZMP package to beat the S4 in that niche? When you let the accountants call the shots, we get M SUVs. __________________ My not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Quaife, BMW Perf & M3 suspension, V5, M-sport, ... Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279

11-06-2009, 10:48 PM	#2
MCMLXXXIX wat Drives: a gr3at whit3 5hark Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,410 iTrader: (0)	340i??? wow

11-06-2009, 11:06 PM	#5
ejazbmw blahhh Drives: 2011 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 6,335 iTrader: (7)	i can see this happening i mean bmw tends to do things with 5 intervals 325 330 335 but the 328 fucked up my theory lol

11-06-2009, 11:08 PM	#6
JakeN5 Second Lieutenant Drives: e90 328i LCI Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 257 iTrader: (0)	Uh oh! I hope reliability is not compromised by the time crunch. And we all know what the new model designation 340i means: Munich is scheming to push the 3-series range into an even higher price bracket. That's not a way to recoup lost sale.

11-07-2009, 12:32 PM	#14
lonestar22 Ground Clearance? Drives: 330i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 1,335 iTrader: (-1)	each year the m3 goes up in about 80-100 horsepower. this will be the first time it stays the same. i hope this car isnt based off he e90 like alot of new cars are doing. the new mustang looks like the old one by the doors, and so does the new vw mkvi __________________ Slammed E90. One of the First. Stay Fitted

12-11-2009, 01:22 AM	#16
veightkiller Brigadier General Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver,B.C Posts: 4,145 iTrader: (3)	WoW

12-11-2009, 10:56 AM	#17
Alan l. Brigadier General Drives: M-Sport 535xi Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 3,670 iTrader: (8)	Seriously with the amount of issues that is typical of first year bmw's and the rest (HPFP) I would be very cautious of this model if bmw all of a sudden decided to push production up a full year. Seems like they are rushing into this new model. Also, unless they plan on doing away with the 328 model it doesn't make much sense to have a 328, 335, 340 below the M3. A well optioned 335 now already pushes over 50K which isn't much off of a base M3. I just don't see how they could slot in another model inbetween. __________________ Current - 2013 N55 535xi Msport SAT Retired - 2009 N54 335i Msport 6MT Retired - 2000 M52TU 323i ASA Supercharged 5MT More Photos of my car here

12-11-2009, 11:06 AM	#18
floot_roops 181st Imperial Pilot Drives: 09 e92 335xi Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 103 iTrader: (0)	What about the part indicating the 335 will drop in power? Do you think they're going to drop the price a bit, too, to make room for the 340 slot? That's kind of annoying... Only because you'll have to start qualifying which 335 a car is (e9x or f30, since they'd have different power outputs)... Or am I not reading that correctly?

12-13-2009, 08:52 PM	#20
bavarian19 General Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA Posts: 18,659 iTrader: (22)	The M3 will probably keep the same hp, but get a boost in torque. I doubt BMW will go with the 340 designation. The 335 has made a name for itself, and will probably just be left as 335.

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