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      09-06-2013, 06:31 PM   #45
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I was about to order the new 335xd Touring, but will wait for the D3 Touring.

Just yesterday I spoke to the dealer and he presumes that the D3s will be delivered in April/May 2014. Im in love and definitely will wait for the D3.

The only question remains - white or blue?
The matte blue-ish purple colour that's on the B7
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      09-06-2013, 09:38 PM   #46
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Doubt that. I donīt think BMW or Alpina have a manual transmission that could survive the torque.
The M5 comes in manual with 500 ft of torque, right, so have to imagine 518 wouldn't put it over the edge.

Wish someone would make an AWD diesel monster that comes in manual so I can get around in winter, floor it in summer, get good mileage year round, and satisfy my love of manual transmission. If anyone knows of such car, please let me know.
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      09-06-2013, 10:25 PM   #47
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Man, it really irks me that we don't get cars with this combination of fuel efficiency and performance on this side of the pond...
Aren't you guys getting the F30 335d xDrive? It's not that far off the Alpine's numbers at all. 313bhp and 4.8 secs to 62. The petrol Alpina is way above the 335i but this isn't all that much extra performance over the normal BMW 335d.
We get a shit 320d dressed and called a 328d for more BMW profit.
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      09-07-2013, 03:55 AM   #48
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Man, it really irks me that we don't get cars with this combination of fuel efficiency and performance on this side of the pond...
Aren't you guys getting the F30 335d xDrive? It's not that far off the Alpine's numbers at all. 313bhp and 4.8 secs to 62. The petrol Alpina is way above the 335i but this isn't all that much extra performance over the normal BMW 335d.
We get a shit 320d dressed and called a 328d for more BMW profit.
+1 ridiculous to call it a 328d. Maybe alpina should sell these in US
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The green is not my favorite. Iīll probably go for the blue, since "standard" F31 blue (estoril blue) is too bright for me (I got E91 330xd in LeMans Blue and BMW doesnīt offer this shade of blue for the F3x series, except for San Marino Blue, which is an M car color and is veeery expensive to order for F31 through BMW Individual Program).


When I ordered my car I wanted it with San Marino Blue color but they say itīs impossible because itīs M car color. Itīs not available and Tanzanite was too dark for me.
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      09-07-2013, 05:47 AM   #50
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      09-07-2013, 07:25 AM   #51
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If (and I only mean if) Alpina had the same distribution network as BMW in the UK, do you think this would outsell the M3? It's very fast, has all the options you could want (short of manual) and is diesel which is always a huge hit here.
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      09-07-2013, 07:50 AM   #52
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When I ordered my car I wanted it with San Marino Blue color but they say itīs impossible because itīs M car color. Itīs not available and Tanzanite was too dark for me.
I was told that it is possible through the Individual Program, but the cost is really high - 6 000 EUR.
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The M5 comes in manual with 500 ft of torque, right, so have to imagine 518 wouldn't put it over the edge.

Wish someone would make an AWD diesel monster that comes in manual so I can get around in winter, floor it in summer, get good mileage year round, and satisfy my love of manual transmission. If anyone knows of such car, please let me know.
Thatīs right. I forgot that M5 and M6 are sold in the States with manual transmission.
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      09-07-2013, 08:22 AM   #54
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Alpina makes nice cars!
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      09-07-2013, 10:47 AM   #55
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The Alpina is something more than just a 335d though. The motor is a reworked N55 (made to have 2 turbos), and this one like OP said can be ordered with a LSD. Add all he Alpina stuff like trim, seats, dash, wheels, quad exhaust and this is much more than a 335d.
I think you are referring to the B3, not the D3.
Ouch you are correct. I stand corrected
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      09-07-2013, 11:29 AM   #56
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If (and I only mean if) Alpina had the same distribution network as BMW in the UK, do you think this would outsell the M3? It's very fast, has all the options you could want (short of manual) and is diesel which is always a huge hit here.

I do not think so, in the UK the availability of a buying an Alpina is quite easy just need to find a Sytner dealer. They have a good coverage of the UK, such as: Birmingham, Canary Wharf, Cardiff, Chigwell, Coventry, Harold Wood, High Wycombe, Leicester, Maidenhead, Newport, Nottingham, Oldbury, Sheffield, Solihull, Sunningdale, and Sutton Coldfield.

It's more about price, and lack of competitor dealerships eager to get your order, there is no discount and only two year warranty with a new Alpina's

Also alpina's are built to order, unless Sytner order/commit to a large quantity as they did with the previous D3's which were by default low spec'd.

I also think its the lack of brand awareness keeping exclusivity maintains a high margin of profit.
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wow not normally a wagon person but that that is awesome!
I think a lot of people that are not normally wagon people would buy them if they would send us some with n55's.

Love wagons personally.

But instead, they decided to send us the 3 GT (with n55) and I have a feeling it will flop because it just isn't a pretty as the wagon. It looks like a BMW version of a Dodge Journey which is just a Dodge Caravan in disguise as a wannabe SUV for families that don't like the idea of owning a "minivan" and think they are buying an SUV.
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Dat wagon. Would buy.
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I think a lot of people that are not normally wagon people would buy them if they would send us some with n55's.

Love wagons personally.

But instead, they decided to send us the 3 GT (with n55) and I have a feeling it will flop because it just isn't a pretty as the wagon. It looks like a BMW version of a Dodge Journey which is just a Dodge Caravan in disguise as a wannabe SUV for families that don't like the idea of owning a "minivan" and think they are buying an SUV.
agree 100%
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      09-09-2013, 07:43 PM   #61
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Serious Question.

How do they get those HP and mileage numbers?
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      09-10-2013, 01:02 PM   #62
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Alpina has updated their homepage and configurator with the D3

http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/en...3-biturbo.html

http://www.alpina-configurator.de/


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      09-10-2013, 01:10 PM   #63
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Iīm in love and definitely will wait for the D3.

The only question remains - white or blue?
Isn't Alpina-blue the obvious choice?

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      09-11-2013, 02:45 PM   #64
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Isn't Alpina-blue the obvious choice?

Actually, I saw the F31 D3 yesterday in Frankfurt at the auto show (see below) in blue and definitely wonīt choose the blue color. In real life it looks so cheap and uninteresting. On the other hand, I saw it in white and it looks perfect and luxurios - http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/fi...BITURBO_08.jpg
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Nice pics! Do you have more pics from the Alpina-stand? That green F30 looks nice....
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      09-11-2013, 05:21 PM   #66
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ok but how is it throwing you any faster than 335i if 0-60 is same if not slower, i dont get it unless there is a huge difference in like 40-80 or 60-80 , i never drove a 335d so i guess i dont understand
The 0-62 is no longer a good benchmark to compare cars of this magnitude since you're flirting with the grip limit of your tires during the entire excercise. In all other driving conditions than stand still, the torque of the D3 is massively superior and casts the D3 far ahead the 335i immediately.

The 335i doesn't stand a chance, the M will have a serious job to keep up with it but will be able to rev it out above 6000 rpm. Still the D3 will keep its crown for master of efficient & cool performance. The 335i will only be able to hang on when it is in "stressed" high rpm mode, while the D3 still drives relaxed and composed a couple of thousand RPM's lower, also emitting only half of the COē doing this.

What a masterpiece it is, and not really expensive apparently... seems a better deal than the 335xd! When you put the extra kit on the 335xd that's included in the D3, you exceed the price of the D3! The engine tune is apparently thrown in for free!

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