iPod Classic Crashing? - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

bacampbe · 05-19-2013, 09:53 PM

Out of curiosity, when that happens, what's the charge level on the iPod? Ours seems to be discharging for no good reason when left plugged into the car.

joewalton · 05-19-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by terryn

My iPod Classic 80GB worked for the first two weeks with a USB connection just fine, other than being a little sluggish. Now it has started to lock up and not be recognized by the car. It would be unfortunate if classics are not compatible, since they are the only ones with a large enough capacity to hold all my music.

It's not the compatibility that's the issue. It's the age of the technology in the Classic that's the problem and there's no workaround. You need to take a hard look at your iTunes collection, discard the songs you truly don't listen to, make some fab Playlists, get an iPod Touch, and let this Classic go.

Cars face extremes of hot and cold. Physical hard drives don't like facing extremes of hot and cold. There's no getting around that.

terryn · 05-20-2013, 05:50 AM

We need to understand why the iPod Classics are not compatible.

HD and temperature issues? Not my problem. Have used this iPod in my Audi for years in all weather with not one issue. The recent BMW lockup occurred at 55F. Not an extreme temp for electronics.

Is it the number of tracks, library size etc.? Could be. The classics are different from the iPods that work in that they have capacities greater than 64GB. I've seen one post saying reducing the library to less than 60gb on an 80gb Classic solved the problem. Are people experiencing the freeze on Classics only when the library is greater than 64GB?

Is it something different in the library structure on the Classic because it is a HD not SSD?

Is the USB interface different on Classics different from a Touch or a Nano?

Without knowing the source of the problem, one could waste money on a solution that does not work. Would a newer Classics work? Would a 128GB USB stick work instead?

No matter what the problem, I fault BMW for not fully informing us. They should have a footnote under their USB interface literature stating that certain models do iPods are not supported.

bacampbe · 05-20-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by terryn

We need to understand why the iPod Classics are not compatible.
HD and temperature issues? Not my problem. Have used this iPod in my Audi for years in all weather with not one issue. The recent BMW lockup occurred at 55F. Not an extreme temp for electronics.

I can corroborate that one. My iPod works fine in my Miata, which gets a _lot_ more vibration and temperature extremes that the 3er.

I hope it's either a bug on BMWs part, since that could be fixed pretty easily. It could be a bug on the iPod itself. (Apple has all but abandoned the non-iOS iPods. It's been a _long_ time since the last firmware update.)

But I'm afraid it's an electrical issue, given the iPods tendency to discharge for no good reason. We've seen an apparently fully charged iPod discharge overnight when left plugged in.

CHCCubs · 05-20-2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CHCCubs

I haven't had any issues with my 120gb ipod classic. I've only had my car for about a week now, but this is the same ipod classic and BMW y-cable that I used in my old E90 without any problems for the 4 years I had that car.

Just to update my original post, my ipod classic still continues to work perfectly in my F30. Mine is left plugged in, in the center all the time and works flawlessly just as it did in my old E90.

terryn · 05-23-2013, 09:28 PM

Mine worked fine for two weeks. Now that the car has stopped recognizing it, it has never worked in the car again, even after reboots, restarts, etc. the classic still works fine out of the car. Going to have to go with a large USB stick instead.

narlus · 05-31-2013, 09:45 PM

eh, mine still freezes from time to time...and it's really annoying. i have to pop the center console, unplug the cords, and do a hard reboot on the iPod. not too convenient if you are not pulled over.

i think it's a ploy to force people into SiriusXM radio subscriptions.

narlus · 06-17-2013, 08:28 AM

i've had it...driving back and forth to NYC this weekend the thing stopped working at least a dozen times.

has anyone gotten any decent feedback from their dealers on this issue? i guess i'll find out.

jjrandorin · 06-17-2013, 09:21 AM

I have a classic (80GB) in my 2013 335i, and also have an ipod classic in my wifes 2013 activeyhybrid 5 which is the 160GB classic. Both work fine in our cars. We leave them in there (so they "live" in the center console).

Have had zero issues with them so far since I have had both cars, which is mid april. I DO have issues with streaming over bluetooth in my wifes AH5, but thats another story, for another thread.

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05-19-2013, 09:53 PM	#23
bacampbe Private Drives: 2012 328i Sport-line Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 67 iTrader: (0)	Out of curiosity, when that happens, what's the charge level on the iPod? Ours seems to be discharging for no good reason when left plugged into the car.

05-20-2013, 05:50 AM	#25
terryn New Member Drives: 2013 328xi Sport line Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13 iTrader: (0)	We need to understand why the iPod Classics are not compatible. HD and temperature issues? Not my problem. Have used this iPod in my Audi for years in all weather with not one issue. The recent BMW lockup occurred at 55F. Not an extreme temp for electronics. Is it the number of tracks, library size etc.? Could be. The classics are different from the iPods that work in that they have capacities greater than 64GB. I've seen one post saying reducing the library to less than 60gb on an 80gb Classic solved the problem. Are people experiencing the freeze on Classics only when the library is greater than 64GB? Is it something different in the library structure on the Classic because it is a HD not SSD? Is the USB interface different on Classics different from a Touch or a Nano? Without knowing the source of the problem, one could waste money on a solution that does not work. Would a newer Classics work? Would a 128GB USB stick work instead? No matter what the problem, I fault BMW for not fully informing us. They should have a footnote under their USB interface literature stating that certain models do iPods are not supported.

05-23-2013, 09:28 PM	#28
terryn New Member Drives: 2013 328xi Sport line Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 13 iTrader: (0)	Mine worked fine for two weeks. Now that the car has stopped recognizing it, it has never worked in the car again, even after reboots, restarts, etc. the classic still works fine out of the car. Going to have to go with a large USB stick instead.

05-31-2013, 09:45 PM	#29
narlus Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 335xi Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: United States Posts: 30 iTrader: (0)	eh, mine still freezes from time to time...and it's really annoying. i have to pop the center console, unplug the cords, and do a hard reboot on the iPod. not too convenient if you are not pulled over. i think it's a ploy to force people into SiriusXM radio subscriptions.

06-17-2013, 08:28 AM	#30
narlus Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 335xi Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: United States Posts: 30 iTrader: (0)	i've had it...driving back and forth to NYC this weekend the thing stopped working at least a dozen times. has anyone gotten any decent feedback from their dealers on this issue? i guess i'll find out.

06-17-2013, 09:21 AM	#31
jjrandorin New Member Drives: 2013 335i Join Date: May 2013 Location: United States Posts: 18 iTrader: (0)	I have a classic (80GB) in my 2013 335i, and also have an ipod classic in my wifes 2013 activeyhybrid 5 which is the 160GB classic. Both work fine in our cars. We leave them in there (so they "live" in the center console). Have had zero issues with them so far since I have had both cars, which is mid april. I DO have issues with streaming over bluetooth in my wifes AH5, but thats another story, for another thread.