[1.fresh.f30.335]

Originally Posted by tdizzle

Hard to say, since alot of factors come into play (mileage, cosmetic issues, etc). My guess would be approximately 50%.

After 3-4 years, the car stops depreciating as fast, which makes it a better financial decision to lease if you want a new car in 3 years or less and to buy if you plan on keeping it more than 4 years.

Just looking at my truck I traded in that's what I saw. At 2 years, a dealer offered me $18k for it, and when I traded it at 7 years I got $12k for it. The 2 year offer was way low and I walked but you get the general idea.

I quoted a fully loaded King Rancher Ford F250 in 08 that was a year old and we offered 17,500 because of the gas prices... I bet that truck would go for that now.

[venturerider]

Originally Posted by buildbright

Sounds like he needs a comfort car not a sports car happens all the time.

Ditch the runflats, then!

[tdizzle]

Originally Posted by 1.fresh.f30.335

I quoted a fully loaded King Rancher Ford F250 in 08 that was a year old and we offered 17,500 because of the gas prices... I bet that truck would go for that now.

I did my quote the end of '07, so gas prices could've had a bit to do with the low price given, but it was also their first offer (the truck was a 2 year old fully loaded F150-FX4 with 20k miles on it).

4x4 trucks do tend to hold their value well after 4 years, but then again they are built to last a long time. It's common for people to pick up a 'work truck' that's 5 years old and keep it forever and just beat it up because they don't die and are fairly cheap to fix.

But I digress...

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by venturerider

Ditch the runflats, then!

Run flats wont turn a 3 series into a 5 series not even close. I think someone should have done some more test drives. Listen I am 3 series all the way I wanted a sports car with some luxury, not a luxury car with some sport, so I am on your side.

[COBodom]

Originally Posted by Pandarakus

Hey guys,

Newbie here.. Long story short, I bought base f30 on november 2012 for a total about 40k including tax.
I am thinking of upgrading it to f10 5 series and planning to sell my f30. How much will the bmw dealer buy back?
Maybe any of you guys might have experience on buying and selling cars.

Thank you

Btw the car has about 3300 miles on it now

Not that what I wrote below has anything to do with the OP’s original question. Since the question is more about the financial part of the deal and not about the comparison between the 3 and the 5, but….

I drive 2012 528xi and I considered a 3 series before. Here are a few points:

- way more spacious than the 3 series.
- very quite ride, you would not be able to hear the N20 at all (unlike in the 3 series).
- interior, interior and one more time the upscale interior design and feel, the 3 series IMHO just looks very simple and plain, not elegant simple, but poor simple.
- As far as sportiness goes, no way in the world is 535 underpowered. Ride will feel different than in the smaller car. You’re no longer in a go-kart, but in a luxury, sports cruiser. Go-karts will always feel faster, that does not mean they are. As far as 528xi goes, it’s a very “torquey” engine, gets you from 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, not entirely sure if you can tell the difference between 328xi and 5.7 seconds to 60mph, but maybe you can. I couldn’t.

Good Luck !

[Pandarakus]

Originally Posted by COBodom

Not that what I wrote below has anything to do with the OP’s original question. Since the question is more about the financial part of the deal and not about the comparison between the 3 and the 5, but….

I drive 2012 528xi and I considered a 3 series before. Here are a few points:

- way more spacious than the 3 series.
- very quite ride, you would not be able to hear the N20 at all (unlike in the 3 series).
- interior, interior and one more time the upscale interior design and feel, the 3 series IMHO just looks very simple and plain, not elegant simple, but poor simple.
- As far as sportiness goes, no way in the world is 535 underpowered. Ride will feel different than in the smaller car. You’re no longer in a go-kart, but in a luxury, sports cruiser. Go-karts will always feel faster, that does not mean they are. As far as 528xi goes, it’s a very “torquey” engine, gets you from 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, not entirely sure if you can tell the difference between 328xi and 5.7 seconds to 60mph, but maybe you can. I couldn’t.

Good Luck !

You're right sir. My idea is that 5 series can look sporty and have the power as well, although not as fast as 3 series.. but well.. I actually hate the 3 series tail light. Looks old, like it needs a little facelift for the "turn signal glass cap".. and 4 series tail light is different than the 3 series and IMO it looks great/better. Thanks for the response sir, really helpful.

[rconti]

Originally Posted by Pandarakus

Thanks for your time to reply.. Honestly the 4 series makes the f30 looks outdated and I regret buying the f30 although it's a pretty decent car. Yes it is big, but not as nice as 5 series in my opinion. Do you have any approximation of how much will it depreciate after 3 years?

50% maybe? Either way, if you always have to have the newest car, you'd better bring boatloads of cash. $5-$10k a year, easy.

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by COBodom

Not that what I wrote below has anything to do with the OP’s original question. Since the question is more about the financial part of the deal and not about the comparison between the 3 and the 5, but….

I drive 2012 528xi and I considered a 3 series before. Here are a few points:

- way more spacious than the 3 series.
- very quite ride, you would not be able to hear the N20 at all (unlike in the 3 series).
- interior, interior and one more time the upscale interior design and feel, the 3 series IMHO just looks very simple and plain, not elegant simple, but poor simple.
- As far as sportiness goes, no way in the world is 535 underpowered. Ride will feel different than in the smaller car. You’re no longer in a go-kart, but in a luxury, sports cruiser. Go-karts will always feel faster, that does not mean they are. As far as 528xi goes, it’s a very “torquey” engine, gets you from 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, not entirely sure if you can tell the difference between 328xi and 5.7 seconds to 60mph, but maybe you can. I couldn’t.

Good Luck !

The 328 is a much faster car but its no go kart. its just the 3 series has sports car handling and the 528 is a dog in that department. I even test drove the 550i and was not impressed. The only 5 series I would own would be a M5. I think the 5 series is a great car its just not very sporty more Lexus then BMW.

[Mak135i]

Originally Posted by rconti

50% maybe? Either way, if you always have to have the newest car, you'd better bring boatloads of cash. $5-$10k a year, easy.

That's very true...depending on the car. In my experience (I get a new car every 14-16 months), you're better off leasing if that is your situation. If your F30 is leased, swap your lease. If not, try to sell it privately at 15% off what you bought it. You'll still do better than trading it in. GLWS

[COBodom]

Originally Posted by buildbright

The 328 is a much faster car but its no go kart. its just the 3 series has sports car handling and the 528 is a dog in that department. I even test drove the 550i and was not impressed. The only 5 series I would own would be a M5. I think the 5 series is a great car its just not very sporty more Lexus then BMW.

Well…what makes it a go-kart is not only the 0-60 times, but the size of the car, handling and the 0-60 times.

Yes, the 328xi is faster, exactly 0.6 second faster, in my book that’s not “much faster”. Now with 550xi you’re talking M3 0-60 times.

“(…) more Lexus then BMW” - Yeah, as of late calling a GS the new BMW (and vice versa) has been the name of the game for some car magazines, however I am yet to see a GS doing 0-60 in 4.7s (550xi).

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by COBodom

Well…what makes it a go-kart is not only the 0-60 times, but the size of the car, handling and the 0-60 times.

Yes, the 328xi is faster, exactly 0.6 second faster, in my book that’s not “much faster”. Now with 550xi you’re talking M3 0-60 times.

“(…) more Lexus then BMW” - Yeah, as of late calling a GS the new BMW (and vice versa) has been the name of the game for some car magazines, however I am yet to see a GS doing 0-60 in 4.7s (550xi).

There is nothing wrong with wanting a bigger car but the F30 is not small by any means. It's surprising how roomy it is. I have drove small and big cars the F30 is no go kart.

[sinuspain]

Can you give me some specs on the car? I might be interested...located in LA

[ADRQ0811]

I had a 2011 528i before my Benz which was before my f30 and I love my f30 way more then I did the f10 it's a nice car and all but the steering is worse in the five for sure

[vern]

Originally Posted by Pandarakus

You're right sir. My idea is that 5 series can look sporty and have the power as well, although not as fast as 3 series.. but well.. I actually hate the 3 series tail light. Looks old, like it needs a little facelift for the "turn signal glass.

I think you should take another look at the taillights, back of the F30 and the F10 its pretty hard to tell the difference.Good luck
cheers
vern