[JagoBmw10]

okay so they compare the 335 to the S4?

Why not the 3.2 A4... makes zero sense.
At least compare it to the 335msport

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by JagoBmw10

okay so they compare the 335 to the S4?

Why not the 3.2 A4... makes zero sense.
At least compare it to the 335msport

The 3.2 was dropped years ago.

[anelson524]

Originally Posted by JagoBmw10

okay so they compare the 335 to the S4?

Why not the 3.2 A4... makes zero sense.
At least compare it to the 335msport

Sounds like it makes perfect sense.. A4 to 328i, S4 to 335i, M3 to RS5. M-sport doesn't really enhance performance as much as it does cosmetics.

[chrisv_335EBII]

Originally Posted by raffyg2388

Imagine if they used the redesiged 2013 s4 which has a few new mechanical improvements going against the new f30. And what happen to the bmw steering feel?! It was one of the main advantages over MB and Audi. This is sad.

The sad part is the 2013 S4s steering is like the F30 now. It is electronic and very loose. I feel its worse than the F30s steering.

[JagoBmw10]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

The 3.2 was dropped years ago.

wow that makes sense. I always thought it was an awkward model between the base and the S4. Doesn't the 335msport give the car a firmer suspension, larger wheels, better aerodynamics, bigger brakes, and a better exhaust?

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by JagoBmw10

wow that makes sense. I always thought it was an awkward model between the base and the S4. Doesn't the 335msport give the car a firmer suspension, larger wheels, better aerodynamics, bigger brakes, and a better exhaust?

No.

The MSport is appearance based. The only performance related specifics are additional cooling, the staggered wheels and tires, euro brake pads.

[khanaford]

I owned a 2012 S4 for about a year before I sold it to buy a house. Long story short, I didn't qualify for the house so I went to get a car again and decided to go with an F30 335i for a few reasons, namely bigger/more comfortable interior, better "bang for your buck" in terms of options, better maintenance program (vs. no maint program w/Audi), and the styling on the F30 isn't as tame (in my opinion).

That being said, I do think the S4 drove more aggressively, but at the same time, I don't drive my cars that hard so it wasn't as big of a factor for me.

The supercharger in the Audi kills your gas mileage too >.<

[raffoul232]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

The 3.2 was dropped years ago.

Well it's replaced by a 3.0tfsi engine making around 275hp which isn't a lot.

[Agamemnon]

A 335 msport with the m performance brakes and the performance power kit would send the Audi packing.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by raffoul232

Well it's replaced by a 3.0tfsi engine making around 275hp which isn't a lot.

It's likely underrated as the s4 3.0t is as well. The mid variant you mention is not offered in the US.

[Seagull]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

No.

The MSport is appearance based. The only performance related specifics are additional cooling, the staggered wheels and tires, euro brake pads.

LOL, I commend your patience!

Yes a lot to learn in these forums.