Quick jaunt through 2013 NAIAS: BMW 4 Series Coupe Concept and BMW M6 Gran Coupe - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

Alex.Devol · 01-15-2013, 04:58 AM

I dont understand why on earth the front&rear bumpers on the 4 SE have been made to look so much more modern, exotic and meaner than the 4 msport or the m4 mule.. It makes the 'sporty' models look dated.

Most BMW concepts stay surprisingly unchanged through to production except stance and wheels, I can't see the same happening with this one.

Blue Bottle · 01-15-2013, 06:10 AM

love the 4, what a dream car

Brenzo · 01-15-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stratus650

believe it or not, this gran coupe is selling much more than the normal 2 door Coupe here in Dubai, the idea just works.

I don't think he was saying that a sporty version of a sedan, i.e. a gran coupe shouldn't exist, but rather that it didn't make sense from a branding/badging point of view. When the even numbered series all start making gran coupes, what will differentiate them from the odd numbered sedans aside from slight design adjustments? I think the concern may have been more so how this works from a production or marketing standpoint and less how well it sells.

aweso///Me · 01-15-2013, 06:52 AM

Are those M6 GC rims also available for M6 Coupe, Convertible or will it only be available as a individual option?

RingMeister01 · 01-15-2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brenzo

I don't think he was saying that a sporty version of a sedan, i.e. a gran coupe shouldn't exist, but rather that it didn't make sense from a branding/badging point of view. When the even numbered series all start making gran coupes, what will differentiate them from the odd numbered sedans aside from slight design adjustments? I think the concern may have been more so how this works from a production or marketing standpoint and less how well it sells.

We are used to seeing our coupes based on the sedan. BMW wants the even numbered series to be a stand alone model and not just a coupe version of the odd numbered sedans. The grand coupes will have influences from the even numbered series. I think its brilliant and totally necessary with the popularity of the category.

Markyd83 · 01-15-2013, 07:40 AM

Still not sure how I feel about the front bumper. I'd like to see some interior pics as well.

sttlondon · 01-15-2013, 08:56 AM

hey man...
i wasn't too keen on the idea when Audi brought out their A7 a few years ago but i think the whole idea is catching on.

also...if you've not had a chance to drive the GC, you need do. the 650GC is an AMAZINGLY balanced vehicle and it feels like you're on rails. In a lot of ways it reminds me of the e60 550.

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Originally Posted by Fitz335

This "gran coupe" thing is really stupid. It's either a two door coupe or it's a four door sedan. All the even numbers are suppose to be "coupes", but why have a 4 door coupe? Why not just make the M6 a two door coupe and an M7 a four door "gran coupe"(SEDAN).

Gran Coupe with four doors is like having a Mini Sedan with two doors, I don't get the point.

It's "sleeker" bla bla.

sttlondon · 01-15-2013, 08:58 AM

Love the new 4 series. I'm torn between a 440i or the diesel iteration coming (allegedly). Also what's the new M4 going to look like? Really excited to see this car in production and in person later this year!!

Malbolge · 01-15-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DecitreJC

It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...

Probably the other way around given that 4 series has been out for a month or so and merc has came out just few days ago.

Jaime_E90 · 01-15-2013, 09:24 AM

Headlights on the 4-series are stunning!

SlammedM6 · 01-15-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DecitreJC

It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...

Holy Crap..
nearly identical bumper design..whats up with that?

Fitz335 · 01-15-2013, 11:15 AM

My point is, why buy an M7 or even make one? If you're just going to create the even series with 4 doors and call them "Gran Coupes" what's the point of making a less sexy sedan that has the same number of doors?

just4kickz · 01-15-2013, 11:44 AM

dem angel eyes

remmib · 01-15-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DecitreJC

It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...

Indeed, and I bet the production 4 series will look much more " normal" than this concept version.

kbryce · 01-15-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz335

This "gran coupe" thing is really stupid. It's either a two door coupe or it's a four door sedan. All the even numbers are suppose to be "coupes", but why have a 4 door coupe? Why not just make the M6 a two door coupe and an M7 a four door "gran coupe"(SEDAN).

Gran Coupe with four doors is like having a Mini Sedan with two doors, I don't get the point.

It's "sleeker" bla bla.

the word coupe doesn't necessarily only refer to a car with 2 doors. it has more to do with the shape and the roofline.

the 6 GC is the same shape as the coupe just with two extra doors instead of being a "sleeker" four door.

luvthestck · 01-15-2013, 12:58 PM

The 4 is an amazing looking concept....unfortunately all those blings wont trickle into the production model.This is something that always bothered me.The concepts /3rd party concept sketches look much better than the production models.

stealth.pilot · 01-15-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kbryce

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Originally Posted by Fitz335

This "gran coupe" thing is really stupid. It's either a two door coupe or it's a four door sedan. All the even numbers are suppose to be "coupes", but why have a 4 door coupe? Why not just make the M6 a two door coupe and an M7 a four door "gran coupe"(SEDAN).

Gran Coupe with four doors is like having a Mini Sedan with two doors, I don't get the point.

It's "sleeker" bla bla.

the word coupe doesn't necessarily only refer to a car with 2 doors. it has more to do with the shape and the roofline.

the 6 GC is the same shape as the coupe just with two extra doors instead of being a "sleeker" four door.

Why does the M6 GranCoupe not have a rear spoiler?

It seems like an odd omission since the M6 Coupe and M5 both have rear spoilers.

BMWFB02 · 01-15-2013, 02:00 PM

Can't wait to see the M4

JCD06 · 01-15-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedM6

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Originally Posted by DecitreJC

It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...

Holy Crap..
nearly identical bumper design..whats up with that?

Absolutely nothing... 4-series is beautiful & E63 is not bad ! My opinion...

BlackJetE90 · 01-15-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nenadbogar

now lets see how the 4 series will really look like... judging from the spy photos nothing like this

Yeah, there is a long list of features on this car that are not on the production model.

Not sure the thinking behind revealing a concept. It leads to a let down for the production version. Doesn't matter what car you are talking about, they never live up to the concept.

Bob MG · 01-18-2013, 10:02 AM

Akrapovic is going to have a hard time coming up with an exhaust mod on this!!

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01-15-2013, 04:58 AM	#23
Alex.Devol First Lieutenant Drives: BMW E92 M-Sport LCI Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lancashire Posts: 322 iTrader: (0)	I dont understand why on earth the front&rear bumpers on the 4 SE have been made to look so much more modern, exotic and meaner than the 4 msport or the m4 mule.. It makes the 'sporty' models look dated. Most BMW concepts stay surprisingly unchanged through to production except stance and wheels, I can't see the same happening with this one.

01-15-2013, 06:10 AM	#24
Blue Bottle Lieutenant Drives: X1 x Drive 2.0L D Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Near Heerlen Posts: 519 iTrader: (0)	love the 4, what a dream car

01-15-2013, 06:52 AM	#26
aweso///Me New Member Drives: M3 e92 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Munich Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	Are those M6 GC rims also available for M6 Coupe, Convertible or will it only be available as a individual option?

01-15-2013, 07:40 AM	#28
Markyd83 Captain Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 715 iTrader: (2)	Still not sure how I feel about the front bumper. I'd like to see some interior pics as well.

01-15-2013, 08:58 AM	#30
sttlondon Enlisted Member Drives: '11 328 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	Love the new 4 series. I'm torn between a 440i or the diesel iteration coming (allegedly). Also what's the new M4 going to look like? Really excited to see this car in production and in person later this year!!

01-15-2013, 11:15 AM	#34
Fitz335 Private Drives: 2007 335i Jet Black Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 76 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	My point is, why buy an M7 or even make one? If you're just going to create the even series with 4 doors and call them "Gran Coupes" what's the point of making a less sexy sedan that has the same number of doors?

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luvthestck Private First Class Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Derbyland Posts: 106 iTrader: (0)	The 4 is an amazing looking concept....unfortunately all those blings wont trickle into the production model.This is something that always bothered me.The concepts /3rd party concept sketches look much better than the production models.

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Bob MG Moderating Drives: like a muppet Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,739 iTrader: (0)	Akrapovic is going to have a hard time coming up with an exhaust mod on this!!