[jtuds]

Originally Posted by SamS

A new car design takes 3+ years. Considering the F30 is <1.5 years old, Lexus, MB etc., had no way to benchmark the current 3 series before they started serious design on cars that are just now coming out.

Good point...I should have thought about that.

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

The Passat is the VW equivalent of the Accord not the CC. The CC has the 2.0T engine and has sharper handling. It's not a direct competitor to the 3 series for sure though. The R-Line version with MT is about $32K and comes with Xenon's, nav, touch screen, MSport body add-ons and power seats. No leather though.

They dont make a two door Passat the closet thing is the CC. The Accords stylin is closed to that of the CC specially the 2 door. Also passat is pretty performance lacking with one exception the VR6 model which is rare. I know VW CC's and Passat's almost as well as the 3 series.

[Michael Schott]

Originally Posted by buildbright

They dont make a two door Passat the closet thing is the CC. The Accords stylin is closed to that of the CC specially the 2 door. Also passat is pretty performance lacking with one exception the VR6 model which is rare. I know VW CC's and Passat's almost as well as the 3 series.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. The CC has the 2.0T engine which is not available in any US Passat. And the CC is not supposed to be VW's version of a 2 door Passat. It's their interpretation of the Mercedes CLS which has also been copied by Hyundai, Kia, BMW and Audi. 4 door "Coupes" are popular and the German versions tend to add performance features.

[shivaswrath]

So yeah...the S4 sucks and stuff.

[NateDog07V]

ATS-V... but it's not out yet... thus i patiently wait with my 335i till 2014-2015

[Mark_K]

Easy one ... E92 M3 Hurry up, only until June 2013.