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“Enough, Enough, Enough”: 3-Year-Old Catholic Confronts Islamic Terrorists as His Parents Lay Dead

“Waves of grief have enveloped their world, surging along the fault lines created in Iraqi society by the displacement of thousands of Iraq’s Christian minority who have fled what is clearly a growing genocidal threat…One survivor was asked by a reporter, what do you say to the terrorists? Through his tears he said, ‘We forgive you.’…Among the victims of this senseless tragedy was a little boy named Adam. Three-year-old Adam witnessed the horror of dozens of deaths, including that of his own parents. He wandered among the corpses and the blood, following the terrorists around and admonishing them, ‘enough, enough, enough.’ According to witnesses, this continued for two hours until Adam was himself murdered.”

It sounds only vaguely familiar like I heard a headline report on the radio a few weeks ago. But I may have heard only that little mention that one time. Had anybody heard of this before? It's just an awful event.

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Qur'an
4:95

"Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a rank higher to those who strive hard, fighting Jihad with their wealth and bodies to those who sit (at home). Unto each has Allah promised good, but He prefers Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit home. He has distinguished his fighters with a huge reward."

Holy Bible
1 Peter 2

17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.
18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God.

23 When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.

It may be that neither of these passages are the best example from these two holy books. In the case of the Holy Bible, the quote is consistent with my understanding of how the Christian should deal with those who would harm them. I know nearly nothing bout the Qur'an. Perhaps a muslim could explain the quoted passages and/or offer alternate passages from their holy book that instructs on how to deal with those who would harm them.

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Have a look at the crime scene:

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Al Jazeira reports on the funerals:

[MarkR171]

Right, Catholics have never murdered anybody.




Not that these things aren't horrible, but both/all religions teach similar things. You say yourself you know almost nothing about the Qu'ran yet are quick to post a select passage that sheds a negative light on it's religion while selecting a passage out of your faith's "book" showing the opposite. Just because a select few commit a heinous act, doesn't mean everyone of the same faith is equally capable of such a thing.

[ghosthi32]

Originally Posted by MarkR171

Right, Catholics have never murdered anybody.




Not that these things aren't horrible, but both/all religions teach similar things. You say yourself you know almost nothing about the Qu'ran yet are quick to post a select passage that sheds a negative light on it's religion while selecting a passage out of your faith's "book" showing the opposite. Just because a select few commit a heinous act, doesn't mean everyone of the same faith is equally capable of such a thing.

[ScaredOnce]

Maybe someone should send them a Christmas present??

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by MarkR171

Right, Catholics have never murdered anybody.

Not that these things aren't horrible, but both/all religions teach similar things. You say yourself you know almost nothing about the Qu'ran yet are quick to post a select passage that sheds a negative light on it's religion while selecting a passage out of your faith's "book" showing the opposite. Just because a select few commit a heinous act, doesn't mean everyone of the same faith is equally capable of such a thing.

Are you holding today's Catholics responsible for the sins of their distant ancestors? Where in the New Testament do you find any scripture that says or even alludes to anything like the one from the Quran? Maybe a muslim could address what is the meaning of that scripture and maybe even cite something in the Quran that offers a different perspective than the verse I quoted. Or maybe you could do it as you might know something about it?

I hope that I did not come across as implying everyone of Islamic faith is capable of such a thing. I do imply that the scripture cited here may mean the most violent jihadists are promised the greatest reward in their scripture.

Again, can you show me anything from the New Testament scripture that could be taken that way?

BTW: I am not Catholic. If the victims of the murder were muslim, I would also object. If they were satanists, I would object. If they were Protestants, I would object. I find it odd that you seem to give equal blame to the Catholics (and all religions) for this.

[ghosthi32]

inb4mahmood

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by MarkR171

Right, Catholics have never murdered anybody.




Not that these things aren't horrible, but both/all religions teach similar things. You say yourself you know almost nothing about the Qu'ran yet are quick to post a select passage that sheds a negative light on it's religion while selecting a passage out of your faith's "book" showing the opposite. Just because a select few commit a heinous act, doesn't mean everyone of the same faith is equally capable of such a thing.

I can only assume you didn't watch the video before you made these comments. These people don't even have Catholic decedents. They are new converts, new converts seeking a something different than what they have been taught their whole lives. As one of them alluded to peace, maybe that's what they were looking for when converting to Christianity... i don't know.

But i find it a little disturbing if you can watch those videos and only come up with what you did as a contribution. Not only was he quoting "his faith's book" but these peoples as well. His question is valid as well. Why? They weren't secretly killing terrorists. They weren't kidnapping members of Al Qaeda and filming their beheadings. And they weren't fighting Al Qaeda in the streets. They were just trying to exist, peacefully. And without cause, a few members of a fairly large group of Muslims using "their faith's book" as a guide, committed a senseless act against a peaceful few.

Why? I think it's a legitimate question.

[ghosthi32]

extremist muslims are crazy. They will twist anything in their favor. The government of iran commits genocide everyday as well by killing hundreds of Baha'i members.


cyrus the great needs to come back to life and teach everyone freedom of religion again...

[Mahmood07]

Originally Posted by ghosthi32

inb4mahmood

No more contributions from me

[SexiZena]

This is terrible

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And it's getting worse...

Evangelicals must rise to the occasion

While the Vatican fears an "exodus" of Christians from the Middle East, America's religious right is prepared to take the international defense of religious minorities to a new level in 2011.

Evangelicals in the U.S. may be mocked and harassed, but we are not persecuted. Our brothers and sisters need us; will we rise to the occasion?

[1997gtx]

It's too bad that all religion does is breed hate and violence. Because it really ruins it for those who don't have a vicious bone in their body.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by 1997gtx

It's too bad that all religion does is breed hate and violence. Because it really ruins it for those who don't have a vicious bone in their body.

If that was all religion did, then I would heartily agree. But it is not true, and I strongly disagree.

[SuperAwesome]

Originally Posted by scottwww

It may be that neither of these passages are the best example from these two holy books. In the case of the Holy Bible, the quote is consistent with my understanding of how the Christian should deal with those who would harm them. I know nearly nothing bout the Qur'an. Perhaps a muslim could explain the quoted passages and/or offer alternate passages from their holy book that instructs on how to deal with those who would harm them.

I have NO idea where in the world you got that from LOL.. Its funny how when something happens bad, the media is quick to use religion to classify the situation .. How about the latest tucson deaths of the mayors and higher ranked officials? HOw come thats not an act of terrorism? Hmm if it was a MUSLIM the media would say terrorism lol.. People need to wake up and get real and understand how islam works and being muslim .

[molossus]

who cares, religion is for nut jobs anyhow.

[newdadkel]

The difference is that Christians were targeted because their beliefs are different from the radical islamists. Now if someone had info that Loughner had al queda ties, then you could look at it as an act of terrorism. But what is happening in Pakistan and Iraq is the specific targeting of another religious because it is different from what the radicals believe. Radical muslims are intolerant of any other religion. That is well known. Notice I said "RADICAL." Not every muslim believes in attacking/murdering others for belief in another religion. But this group does, and is targeting Christians specifically. The same thing happened in Lebanon years ago and led to a mass exodus of Christians from this country because of intolerance and persecution.

[SuperAwesome]

Originally Posted by newdadkel

The difference is that Christians were targeted because their beliefs are different from the radical islamists. Now if someone had info that Loughner had al queda ties, then you could look at it as an act of terrorism. But what is happening in Pakistan and Iraq is the specific targeting of another religious because it is different from what the radicals believe. Radical muslims are intolerant of any other religion. That is well known. Notice I said "RADICAL." Not every muslim believes in attacking/murdering others for belief in another religion. But this group does, and is targeting Christians specifically. The same thing happened in Lebanon years ago and led to a mass exodus of Christians from this country because of intolerance and persecution.

They target any person of any religion... Terrorism has nothing to do with religion at all..I know many muslims that are sick and tired of being labeled a terrorist cuz of the religion they are.. What about when Israel attacked that cargo boat that was sending aid with a bunch of people from different nations on it? Why don't they say Jewish terrorists? Im not trying to pick sides here, im just trying to show a view here of whats being neglected and this so called great country we leave in allows it.

[hks786]

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I agree. It has less to do with religion then people think. It is actually about politics and disputes over land and wars etc. "Islamic" terrorists just try to hide behind religion to justify what they do and people like Bush and Blair lie so that they can similarly justify what they do.

People want an easy solution to the many problems out there and for many it is easy to say Islam is a religion that teaches hate but when we look around that isn't what is happening. What do you call what Bush/Blair did then? What about what Israel get away with? Israel also have an illegal nuclear programme.

[NU arty boy]

If Musims truly believed that killing non-Muslims was against Allah's teachings why don't we see any true Muslim uprisings against the Sheiks and Mullahs around the world? Why haven't we sen a "Million Muslim man march" on Washington D.C. that tells the extremists that they are tired of seeing their religion used for evil means? Why do the non extremist Muslims sit by and watch as every predominantly Muslim country burns???

I am not attacking Islam in my post. I am trying to understand why a religion of peace has become apathetic...