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Making its world debut at the 2013 Geneva Motor Show is the BMW 3 Series GT (Gran Turismo) [Official Thread], the newest variant to the F3x 3 Series model line. The 3 Series GT rounds out the current generation 3 Series lineup, with the next model spawning off the same platform to be the 4 Series Coupe (F32)

While the 3 Series GT improves upon the 5 Series GT's very unwieldy back end, we feel that the rear design could still have been sleeker and sportier. But, if that were the case, perhaps it would then infringe on (or overlap with) the upcoming 4 Series Gran Coupe's space. While the 3 Series GT's back end design could be prettier, the front fascia styling is attractive and adds some flare on top of the F30 sedan and F31's more basic look.

On display was an M Sport Package and a Modern Line 3 Series GT. Subjective opinions on styling aside, one thing was clear from our time spent at the display - hordes of the automotive press were interested in seeing the car's utility. We witnessed (and you can see in the photos) groups from other manufacturers piling into the GTs to test out their improved legroom, headroom, and cargo space.

Follow our full 2013 Geneva show coverage updates at BIMMERPOST.com

Added Video: Reigning DTM Champion Bruno Spengler talks to Karim Habib, Head of BMW Design, about the 3GT.

BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo World Debut - M Sport Model

BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo World Debut - Modern Line Model

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Blake P · 03-05-2013, 01:45 PM

Lose the little fender "7's" and the M Sport is actually a pretty nice looking car!

Jamesons Viggen · 03-05-2013, 02:36 PM

Need the PN for these strips STAT!

bimmerjph · 03-05-2013, 02:52 PM

I would like this car a lot more if it was literally a 3 series with a different body and longer wheelbase. But since they softened up the suspension, it just looses all appeal to me.

MY13E92M3 · 03-05-2013, 02:52 PM

Looks good. Better than the F30.

The boomerang has to go. Moreso the "///M" fender badge!

pinemind · 03-05-2013, 02:55 PM

Can someone explain the point of a 2 door GT, ie 4 series GT? I thought the point of GT was a 4-door coupe? It's already a coupe and seems like a huge waste of effort for the perceived market. Doesn't 2 door coupe sound redundant? For that matter, can someone explain the point of any GT sedan/coupe? They are hideous. I've seen 1 5 series in the last year.

eMvy · 03-05-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MY13E92M3

The boomerang has to go. Moreso the "///M" fender badge!

+1

e92dave · 03-05-2013, 03:12 PM

It's not terrible, side view reminds me of the panamera. Not my cup of tea though...

I'd rather see the n55 in the wagon than this!

Ka razy · 03-05-2013, 03:14 PM

I'm sorry. That side vent looks like

And placing the mini ///M above it

And last but not least, there's that back end

At least it a pleasant color...

Matski · 03-05-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pinemind

Can someone explain the point of a 2 door GT, ie 4 series GT? I thought the point of GT was a 4-door coupe? It's already a coupe and seems like a huge waste of effort for the perceived market. Doesn't 2 door coupe sound redundant? For that matter, can someone explain the point of any GT sedan/coupe? They are hideous. I've seen 1 5 series in the last year.

Huh..? Maybe it's just because I'm tired, but I didn't understand that at all!..

- BMW's GT's (Gran Turismos) are not four door coupes - They are 5 door hatch-backs. There is a 3GT and a 5GT.
- BMW's four door Coupes are "GC's" (Gran Coupes).

-The GT's are more practical than a Saloon/Sedan, but perhaps less stylish. -The four door coupes are less practical than a Saloon/Sedan, but more stylish. There is a 6GC, and soon a 4GC.

As for why, some people in some markets aren't content with the conventional offerings for car makers, and as the car makers serve up more wierd and wonderful offerings, people buy them, and car makers push the boundaries further.

smashhell · 03-05-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matski

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinemind

Can someone explain the point of a 2 door GT, ie 4 series GT? I thought the point of GT was a 4-door coupe? It's already a coupe and seems like a huge waste of effort for the perceived market. Doesn't 2 door coupe sound redundant? For that matter, can someone explain the point of any GT sedan/coupe? They are hideous. I've seen 1 5 series in the last year.

Huh..? Maybe it's just because I'm tired, but I didn't understand that at all!..

- BMW's GT's (Gran Turismos) are not four door coupes - They are 5 door hatch-backs. There is a 3GT and a 5GT.
- BMW's four door Coupes are "GC's" (Gran Coupes).

-The GT's are more practical than a Saloon/Sedan, but perhaps less stylish. -The four door coupes are less practical than a Saloon/Sedan, but more stylish. There is a 6GC, and soon a 4GC.

As for why, some people in some markets aren't content with the conventional offerings for car makers, and as the car makers serve up more wierd and wonderful offerings, people buy them, and car makers push the boundaries further.

The problem is where does the 3 series wagon fits in all this?
It's much better than 3GT in utility and looks better too.

Zirenz2006 · 03-05-2013, 04:03 PM

How many posts about how hideous it is and I can't believe what BMW is doing?

Vector Pilot · 03-05-2013, 04:07 PM

Stepped away for a few days to refresh, now I'm back to give it another look. Sorry BMW, it does not work!
Highest Regards

Matski · 03-05-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smashhell

The problem is where does the 3 series wagon fits in all this?
It's much better than 3GT in utility and looks better too.

The tourer offers no extra benefit over the saloon when considering occupants, the GT does, it offers much more room. It also has a similar/better load lugging capacity as the tourer, just in less of a box shape. The tourer doesn't really have much, if any, utility that the GT doesn't.

As for the looks, obviously they're polarising.. but I know plenty of people that think all tourers look like Hearses.

M3_WC · 03-05-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ka razy

And placing the mini ///M above it

I didn't even notice that at first.

That is one of the stupidest M-marketing placements I have seen recently. Pathetic.

Never Convicted · 03-05-2013, 04:25 PM

The only attractive angle would be if you laid in the road and watched it roll over you. Aside from that, a breathtakingly ugly car. Maybe if you bought it, chopped off the roof from the post back, and made it a BMW El Camino...wait...Eureka!

turbolag · 03-05-2013, 04:43 PM

The stupid 7 shaped thing.

The M placement.

The back end in general.

I don't like this car at all...

ESC OFF · 03-05-2013, 04:44 PM

If they removed the Kardashian sized tail and made it similar to the A7 it'd be a pretty nice looking car. The ass end is to high and large for my taste.

kozzi · 03-05-2013, 04:53 PM

Better than I thought it would be. Looks good compared to the 5gt scale wise but still too soft for me...especially in the back end. I would lose the black 7 boomerang thingy...what purpose does it serve? Overall it will probably sell better than the 5gt. If it doesn't...expect the return of the touring.

Imola.ZHP · 03-05-2013, 07:10 PM

Burn It With Fire!!!!

positiveions · 03-05-2013, 08:33 PM

Jayp0d · 03-05-2013, 09:16 PM

You guys really like the station wagons over this? Just curious.

I never liked the BMW (or Mercedes) wagons; but think the Audi Avants are badass (I'm thinking RS4).

03-05-2013, 08:09 AM	#1
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03-05-2013, 02:36 PM	#3
Jamesons Viggen Lieutenant Colonel Drives: '98 M Roadster stg 2 S/C Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,839 iTrader: (1)	Need the PN for these strips STAT! __________________ '98 M Roadster stg 2+ S/C @ 13psi +'13 EBII M Sport 328i 6mt BMS stg 1+

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MY13E92M3 Captain Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 687 iTrader: (1)	Looks good. Better than the F30. The boomerang has to go. Moreso the "///M" fender badge! __________________ MY13 E92 M3 SS w/ ZCP l ZPP l 2MK l 6NR l 752 l M Performance Exhaust, Grill, Side Gills, C/F splitters Sold - 2009 E92 335i LMB M-Sport Sold - 2003 E46 M3 LSB SMG

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Ka razy Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 BMW 335I xDrive Coupe 6MT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Heaven on Earth... Coeur d' Alene, Idaho Posts: 215 iTrader: (0)	I'm sorry. That side vent looks like And placing the mini ///M above it And last but not least, there's that back end At least it a pleasant color... __________________ 2011 BMW 335I xDrive Coupe M pagkage, 6MT 2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure Retired- 04 BMW Z4, 01 K1200RS, 00 R1150GS Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the Soul!

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Zirenz2006 Really lookin forward to the weekend, you guys Drives: 12' F30 328i Sport Line Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US - RI Posts: 3,057 iTrader: (0)	How many posts about how hideous it is and I can't believe what BMW is doing? __________________ Current: F30 328i Sport Line Sapphire Black\|Black-red Retired: '09 E90 335i M-Sport AW\|Oyster, '07 E92 335i Graphite\|Saddle, '05 E60 545i TiAg\|Black, '01 E46 325i Jet Black\|Black

03-05-2013, 01:45 PM	#2
Blake P Kinda Like A Big Deal Drives: F31 on order Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 393 iTrader: (0)	Lose the little fender "7's" and the M Sport is actually a pretty nice looking car!

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bimmerjph Major Drives: 2002 BMW 325i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,332 iTrader: (0)	I would like this car a lot more if it was literally a 3 series with a different body and longer wheelbase. But since they softened up the suspension, it just looses all appeal to me.

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pinemind Private Drives: 2009 BWM 335i xDrive coupe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 81 iTrader: (2)	Can someone explain the point of a 2 door GT, ie 4 series GT? I thought the point of GT was a 4-door coupe? It's already a coupe and seems like a huge waste of effort for the perceived market. Doesn't 2 door coupe sound redundant? For that matter, can someone explain the point of any GT sedan/coupe? They are hideous. I've seen 1 5 series in the last year.

03-05-2013, 03:12 PM	#8
e92dave Private Drives: 08' e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: boston, ma Posts: 51 iTrader: (0)	It's not terrible, side view reminds me of the panamera. Not my cup of tea though... I'd rather see the n55 in the wagon than this!

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Vector Pilot First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E92 335xi + 2011 Z4 35i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Metro Posts: 347 iTrader: (0)	Stepped away for a few days to refresh, now I'm back to give it another look. Sorry BMW, it does not work! Highest Regards __________________ 2011 E92 335i + 2011 E89 35i

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Never Convicted Private First Class Drives: 2010 M3 E92 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	The only attractive angle would be if you laid in the road and watched it roll over you. Aside from that, a breathtakingly ugly car. Maybe if you bought it, chopped off the roof from the post back, and made it a BMW El Camino...wait...Eureka!

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turbolag Private First Class Drives: Volvo 850 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 115 iTrader: (0)	The stupid 7 shaped thing. The M placement. The back end in general. I don't like this car at all...

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ESC OFF Major Drives: 1M (AW) & CaymanS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,017 iTrader: (0)	If they removed the Kardashian sized tail and made it similar to the A7 it'd be a pretty nice looking car. The ass end is to high and large for my taste. __________________ The faster you go, the better it feels

03-05-2013, 04:53 PM	#19
kozzi Pygocentrus Piraya Drives: 2011 BMW X3 35i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 137 iTrader: (0)	Better than I thought it would be. Looks good compared to the 5gt scale wise but still too soft for me...especially in the back end. I would lose the black 7 boomerang thingy...what purpose does it serve? Overall it will probably sell better than the 5gt. If it doesn't...expect the return of the touring. __________________ kozzi 2011 BMW F25 35i Deep Sea Blue Metallic/Nevada Mojave/Brushed Aluminum/SAP/DHP/309 Run-Flats

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Jayp0d Banned Drives: * Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: * Posts: 168 iTrader: (0)	You guys really like the station wagons over this? Just curious. I never liked the BMW (or Mercedes) wagons; but think the Audi Avants are badass (I'm thinking RS4).

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