Problems with 403 M alloys - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

RamboGrambo · 02-04-2013, 07:36 AM

Any body having the same issue as me with there alloys.

Only 600 miles on the clock.

UPDATE (23/03/2013) - All 4 alloys changed under warranty.

Steve_M_Sport · 02-04-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RamboGrambo

Any body having the same issue as me with there alloys.

Only 600 miles on the cock. ha ha ha

They should be replaced under warranty but still not a great start after 600 miles.

zorroone · 02-04-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve_M_Sport

They should be replaced under warranty but still not a great start after 600 miles.

That is disappointing. I have just placed an order today with 400 wheels.

F30AM · 02-04-2013, 08:53 AM

Diamond cut/laser cut/machine cut alloys are a PITA. It's a given that some of them will have such problems: corrosion and 'white worm' under the lacquer. It's for this reason, amongst many, that I went for 400 18" painted alloys. Easier to fix, easy to insure, tougher, longer lasting, better ride, less noise, better steering feel, better handling, less expensive though not quite as pretty. Beauty has its disadvantages.

BMW should replace them under warranty ...... hopefully. How very annoying. Best of luck.

rich1068 · 02-04-2013, 11:44 AM

That is truly terrible.

Dannyb21 · 02-04-2013, 12:22 PM

Wow, I never expected to see issues on such new wheels, especially at that cost.

Just hope mine don't go that way when they arrive!

NISFAN · 02-04-2013, 02:24 PM

How are you washing your wheels?

f1swk · 02-04-2013, 02:28 PM

the rust/corrosion comes through from the hub/disc,needs the wheel off and treated

MarkW83 · 02-04-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F30AM

Diamond cut/laser cut/machine cut alloys are a PITA. It's a given that some of them will have such problems: corrosion and 'white worm' under the lacquer. It's for this reason, amongst many, that I went for 400 18" painted alloys. Easier to fix, easy to insure, tougher, longer lasting, better ride, less noise, better steering feel, better handling, less expensive though not quite as pretty. Beauty has its disadvantages.

BMW should replace them under warranty ...... hopefully. How very annoying. Best of luck.

Agree with everything except the pretty comment

personally I much prefer the looks of the 18s: they have more shape, design, and character. The 19s just just like any old multi-spoke to me. Though, the 19s suit the F31 much better, the style and size of them. On the F30 M Sport, 18s all the way for me

Redbaron1973 · 02-04-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkW83

Agree with everything except the pretty comment

personally I much prefer the looks of the 18s: they have more shape, design, and character. The 19s just just like any old multi-spoke to me. Though, the 19s suit the F31 much better, the style and size of them. On the F30 M Sport, 18s all the way for me

Me too - just dont like the design of the 19" - though wouldnt have diamond cut as they all corrode far far too quickly.

Andys83 · 02-04-2013, 02:56 PM

ETTO

JonoNZ · 02-04-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbaron1973

Me too - just dont like the design of the 19" - though wouldnt have diamond cut as they all corrode far far too quickly.

I had diamond cut on my GTI - never had a problem. We don't have salt or similar on our roads though - however I do live next to the sea!

Sorry, much prefer the 19's too...

venkata · 02-04-2013, 03:00 PM

One of my friends has just bought a 520 MSport. It had 19s on it. They look awesome. Wish they did them on the 3... It would look an absolute bad boy!!!

RamboGrambo · 02-04-2013, 03:14 PM

So which do you all prefer. I was also trying to hide the wheel arch gap with the xDrive.

19" 403 M

18" 400 M

19" 401

Andys83 · 02-04-2013, 03:18 PM

IMO 403 hands down, I think it's irrelevant the size of the alloys in relation to the problems, as someone said earlier in the thread they have similar ones on their GTI with no issue!! 19's all the way for me IMO ��

RichardM · 02-04-2013, 03:33 PM

I've not had my 403's, they still look like new.

kitster · 02-04-2013, 03:35 PM

Went for the 18" myself, I thought they went better on Mineral gray. The 19" IHMO suits EBII better. Anyway each to their own and I'm pretty happy with my choice. The 401 don't look particularly sporty compared to the 400M and 403M.

I've just given them a coating of Collinite 845, ready to fit when the winters come off.

F30AM · 02-04-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkW83

Agree with everything except the pretty comment

personally I much prefer the looks of the 18s: they have more shape, design, and character. The 19s just just like any old multi-spoke to me. Though, the 19s suit the F31 much better, the style and size of them. On the F30 M Sport, 18s all the way for me

I totally agree with you. I was being pretty disingenuous when I said the 19" were pretty. Had to offer a bit of a peace offering for those multi-spoke purchasers. Not delicate looking at all are they? Yep, 400 18" ALL the way!

I await the torrent of abuse.

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Originally Posted by f1swk

the rust/corrosion comes through from the hub/disc,needs the wheel off and treated

They'll have to re-machine the wheel face and re-lacquer it if that's the way they wish to go. Not a good idea as the wheel will never be the same. Needs a complete replacement.

kitster · 02-04-2013, 04:03 PM

Without sounding like a thicko, the 19" alloys are diamond cut...what exactly does that mean?

F30AM · 02-04-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kitster

Without sounding like a thicko, the 19" alloys are diamond cut...what exactly does that mean?

From what little I know, 18" are cast and then painted. 19" are cast, painted and then the face is machined on a high speed lathe. They call them diamond cut.

Read these:
http://www.thewheelspecialist.co.uk/...amond-cutting/
http://www.wickedwheels.co.uk/diamond-cutting.html

See this:

HighlandPete · 02-04-2013, 04:27 PM

The wheel condition looks to me like typical winter corrosion I see so often up here. The more fancy the wheel finish, the worse they deteriorate, from my observation.

Very poor if the wheels can't even take you through a winter. Cleaning and protection would also be where I'd ask questions.

HighlandPete

Andys83 · 02-04-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by F30AM

I totally agree with you. I was being pretty disingenuous when I said the 19" were pretty. Had to offer a bit of a peace offering for those multi-spoke purchasers. Not delicate looking at all are they? Yep, 400 18" ALL the way!

I await the torrent of abuse.

They'll have to re-machine the wheel face and re-lacquer it if that's the way they wish to go. Not a good idea as the wheel will never be the same. Needs a complete replacement.

Well highland Pete here's hoping the weekly scrub I'm giving mine pays off!! Joys of the north of Scotland!

F30AM if you've got the 400's maybe it's just me but they look quite similar to the 403's!? 5 multi spoke instead of 7 really being the only noticeable difference in design no?

Smaller obviously though! Hey but each to their own!!!

02-04-2013, 07:36 AM	#1
RamboGrambo New Member Drives: 2012 F30 320i xDrive M Sport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Newcastle Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	Problems with 403 M alloys Any body having the same issue as me with there alloys. Only 600 miles on the clock. UPDATE (23/03/2013) - All 4 alloys changed under warranty. Last edited by RamboGrambo; 03-23-2013 at 04:46 AM.
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02-04-2013, 08:53 AM	#4
F30AM Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 330d M Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,500 iTrader: (0)	Diamond cut/laser cut/machine cut alloys are a PITA. It's a given that some of them will have such problems: corrosion and 'white worm' under the lacquer. It's for this reason, amongst many, that I went for 400 18" painted alloys. Easier to fix, easy to insure, tougher, longer lasting, better ride, less noise, better steering feel, better handling, less expensive though not quite as pretty. Beauty has its disadvantages. BMW should replace them under warranty ...... hopefully. How very annoying. Best of luck. __________________ SUPERMAN F30 EBII 330d M-Sport/Red Hippo Hide Heated Chairs/18"/Aluminium Hex+Black Trim/Smart Door Mirrors/Cunning Xenons/Clever Suspenders/Electric Back Help/DAB/HK/New Pro Media/Extra Coded Immobiliser/Ciggy Pack/Booty Net/5 Year Service Pack A TRULY WONDERFUL CAR

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NISFAN Lieutenant Colonel Drives: The best kind of F30 :) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bedford UK Posts: 1,617 iTrader: (0)	How are you washing your wheels? __________________ palmer sport M3

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venkata Lieutenant Drives: F30 320D MSport EBII Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Lancashire Posts: 475 iTrader: (0)	One of my friends has just bought a 520 MSport. It had 19s on it. They look awesome. Wish they did them on the 3... It would look an absolute bad boy!!! __________________ Gone: E46 320D Sport \| Silver Grey \| Xenon \| Heated Leather \| Rain Sensors \| M Sports package II Driving: http://mybmw.co.uk/x1j0z7b7 \| F30 320D ///M-Sport \| EBII \| Black Leather \| Visibility Pack \| Adaptive Suspension \| Media Pro Pack \| BMW Apps \| Sports Auto \| Sun Protection Glass \| EU6 BluePerformance Diesel

02-04-2013, 03:14 PM	#14
RamboGrambo New Member Drives: 2012 F30 320i xDrive M Sport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Newcastle Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	So which do you all prefer. I was also trying to hide the wheel arch gap with the xDrive. 19" 403 M 18" 400 M 19" 401 Last edited by RamboGrambo; 02-04-2013 at 03:36 PM.

02-04-2013, 11:44 AM	#5
rich1068 Colonel Drives: F30 330d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2,915 iTrader: (0)	That is truly terrible.

02-04-2013, 12:22 PM	#6
Dannyb21 New Member Drives: F30 2.0D MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	Wow, I never expected to see issues on such new wheels, especially at that cost. Just hope mine don't go that way when they arrive!

02-04-2013, 02:28 PM	#8
f1swk Private First Class Drives: f31 330d Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: uk Posts: 144 iTrader: (0)	the rust/corrosion comes through from the hub/disc,needs the wheel off and treated

02-04-2013, 02:56 PM	#11
Andys83 Private Drives: 320i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 95 iTrader: (0)	ETTO

02-04-2013, 03:18 PM	#15
Andys83 Private Drives: 320i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 95 iTrader: (0)	IMO 403 hands down, I think it's irrelevant the size of the alloys in relation to the problems, as someone said earlier in the thread they have similar ones on their GTI with no issue!! 19's all the way for me IMO ��

02-04-2013, 03:33 PM	#16
RichardM Major Drives: F31 330D M Sport Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Herts UK Posts: 1,161 iTrader: (1)	I've not had my 403's, they still look like new.

02-04-2013, 03:35 PM	#17
kitster Second Lieutenant Drives: F31 320d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 236 iTrader: (0)	Went for the 18" myself, I thought they went better on Mineral gray. The 19" IHMO suits EBII better. Anyway each to their own and I'm pretty happy with my choice. The 401 don't look particularly sporty compared to the 400M and 403M. I've just given them a coating of Collinite 845, ready to fit when the winters come off. Last edited by kitster; 02-04-2013 at 03:57 PM.

02-04-2013, 04:03 PM	#19
kitster Second Lieutenant Drives: F31 320d M Sport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 236 iTrader: (0)	Without sounding like a thicko, the 19" alloys are diamond cut...what exactly does that mean?

02-04-2013, 04:27 PM	#21
HighlandPete Colonel Drives: BMW F11 535i Touring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland, Highland Region Posts: 2,954 iTrader: (0)	The wheel condition looks to me like typical winter corrosion I see so often up here. The more fancy the wheel finish, the worse they deteriorate, from my observation. Very poor if the wheels can't even take you through a winter. Cleaning and protection would also be where I'd ask questions. HighlandPete

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