F30 Wind-Noise Issues - Page 4 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

dd1981 · 01-22-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jsedlak

I don't have a whistle, or noise that bothers me in any way. But there are two things that stick out for me when it comes to this problem...

* There is a noticeable space between door panel and B pillar where I can see door/paint.

* The door doesn't look like it sits exactly flush with the B pillar when closed. It doesn't look bad or off by a lot, but if you look in a side mirror you can notice it.

Yep mine has this, when I run my hand by the doors and body line I can feel it uneven where the doors shut line is. Basically not aligned correctly. Also the b pillar appliqué had a lot of play in them the front door b pillar did not align to the rear door appliqué. I fixed this by putting 3m double sided tape on the inside of the b pillar but this requires removal of the top corner weather strip, don't know how many people will like doing that.

Frogman · 01-23-2013, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dd1981

Yep mine has this, when I run my hand by the doors and body line I can feel it uneven where the doors shut line is. Basically not aligned correctly. Also the b pillar appliqué had a lot of play in them the front door b pillar did not align to the rear door appliqué. I fixed this by putting 3m double sided tape on the inside of the b pillar but this requires removal of the top corner weather strip, don't know how many people will like doing that.

Me too. When closed, if I put a business card on the read end of the front door, there is a gap of about 1mm from the front of the rear door. Both the driver and passenger sides have the same 1mm offset.

If the noise is coming from the mirror, then I don't see how this gap would increase the noise.

Can you post a picture of where you put the tape and more importantly, did it reduce or eliminate the wind noise?

Sladester100 · 01-23-2013, 07:57 PM

My noise appears to he coming from around the b pillar. No real whistle just general wind / road noise. Louder than my old 2007 Vauxhall Astra!

shahramghs · 01-23-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sladester100

My noise appears to he coming from around the b pillar. No real whistle just general wind / road noise. Louder than my old 2007 Vauxhall Astra!

that's like my symptoms too. No major whistle really but, there is a very low vol whistles sometime, I think depending on wind directions hitting the car.

Frogman · 01-23-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shahramghs

that's like my symptoms too. No major whistle really but, there is a very low vol whistles sometime, I think depending on wind directions hitting the car.

Agreed. The noise is definitely louder in a cross wind. Does that mean that there's more to the noise than just the mirrors?

shahramghs · 01-23-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogman

Agreed. The noise is definitely louder in a cross wind. Does that mean that there's more to the noise than just the mirrors?

I feel no air leak what so ever.

Frogman · 01-24-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shahramghs

I feel no air leak what so ever.

I don't feel any leaking air either.

Tk718 · 01-24-2013, 12:22 AM

I feel a draft coming in from the bottom of the driver's side door. I started noticing it when it
Got colder outside. Even if I turn up the heat the draft is noticeable. Also above 55mph there's wind noise coming in from the windshield , this is definitely not normal and this is the first car I encountered this.

snowghost · 01-24-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogman

I don't feel any leaking air either.

Much ado about nothing.

kcidymkcus321 · 01-24-2013, 01:29 PM

I have the wind noise issue as well, we noticed it the very night we picked up the car...it is very annoying and to have this on a $50K car is not good!

I just dropped it off at the dealership today for this issue...thanks to this thread I told them to not mess with any seals or replace the windshield, i just want this issue noted and see if what the resolution is in PUMA, and to call me before any work is done on the car with the proposed solution...no call yet.

I am not happy that this is happening on many other F30s because that means I have an issue that is not easily resolved...if there even is a resolution for it. I prefer them not mess with the windshield, sunroof, seals, etc until they determine what the exact cause is...

I am waiting for Feb 1 to see if the new mirror caps resolve the issue as a previous poster mentioned he will update us on Feb 1 after he gets them installed...

And for everyone saying just turn up the radio, I shouldnt have to turn the radio up to avoid hearing a noise that shouldnt be there in the first place. If I have the volume low, I can still hear it and it is annoying as fkuc!

AndDown · 01-26-2013, 04:23 PM

Took my car into the dealer to have the ASS re-code and to check a whistling sound coming from the passenger side A-pillar area when driving at highway speeds. Got the re-code done and the whistle resolved. It was the windshield side trim that was not tightly attached and would let air through a small gap hence the whistle. Attached is the technician's notes and a picture of the windshield trim.

kcidymkcus321 · 01-27-2013, 07:54 PM

The post above is absolutely correct!!!

My dealership came to the same exact conclusions and notes on the paperwork match!! I just did not have time to take the picture and post the results just yet as I was busy with Gasperilla and the pirates invading Tampa...

But a resolution has been found and I am estatic!

shahramghs · 01-27-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcidymkcus321

The post above is absolutely correct!!!

My dealership came to the same exact conclusions and notes on the paperwork match!! I just did not have time to take the picture and post the results just yet as I was busy with Gasperilla and the pirates invading Tampa...

But a resolution has been found and I am estatic!

This is not the same as what I or others are talking about. This is a whistle noise at high speeds. We have the wind noise at 55 mphs.

kcidymkcus321 · 01-28-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shahramghs

This is not the same as what I or others are talking about. This is a whistle noise at high speeds. We have the wind noise at 55 mphs.

Mine started at about 50 - 60 miles an hour...it might be several different causes because in this exact thread one person said replacing the windshield worked, another said adjusting the sun roof worked, and for two of us replacing the windshield side trim solved the issue...just my two cents

HenryX · 01-29-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kcidymkcus321

Mine started at about 50 - 60 miles an hour...it might be several different causes because in this exact thread one person said replacing the windshield worked, another said adjusting the sun roof worked, and for two of us replacing the windshield side trim solved the issue...just my two cents

You still have "Wind-Noise" at 50-60mph after your "fix"?

kcidymkcus321 · 01-29-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HenryX

You still have "Wind-Noise" at 50-60mph after your "fix"?

No, thats when the wind noise would start...since the "fix", no wind noise at all!

Sorry for the confusion.

EJIB · 02-01-2013, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 328inGE

So while I was in the dealership getting my windshield wipers problem fixed, I mentioned that the wind noise was excessive at higher speeds. my dealer contacted BMW HQ and was told to order new mirror covers. Seems there is a design change after all. I wont get them installed until 1 Feb but I will post back if I hear any improvement.

Kean to know if changing mirrors solve the wind noise issue. Any feedback yet ? As stated by some other members, I also have the impression the problem is even higher with cross winds. Also found a Malaysian wind deflector vendor offering sets for the F30. Any thoughts on that ? I hope mirror covers improve the problem before actually thinking of window deflectors......

EJIB · 02-01-2013, 08:04 AM

This is what I found .... http://venttec.com.my/ViewCatalog.as...owId=9&Sortid=

alex_msu · 02-01-2013, 10:30 AM

SI B51 22 12
Body Equipment

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B5122 12 dated June 2012.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Wind Noise from Front Door Window Seal by Side Mirror
MODEL
F30
From start of production (SOP) to June 2012
SITUATION
The front window may have wind noise by the side mirror when driving.
CAUSE
The window guide seal is not properly fitted to thedoor.
PROCEDURE
With the window closed, confirm the location of thedeformed (folded-in) window guide seal near the mirror
triangle, and then proceed to the next step.
1. On the affected front door, check
both sides of the seal and locate
the folded-in area.

2. This close-up shows the folded-in seal area. Insert a narrow
nylon tool from above the fold
and between the window glass
and seal. Gently work the tool
downward, and pry the seal
outward to eliminate the folded
area.

3. Confirm that both the inside and
outside of the front window glass
are parallel to the seal and
uniform with no folds. The
window must remain closed for a
minimum of two hours for the
seal to “learn” the new position

Frogman · 02-01-2013, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex_msu

SI B51 22 12
Body Equipment

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B5122 12 dated June 2012.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Wind Noise from Front Door Window Seal by Side Mirror
MODEL
F30
From start of production (SOP) to June 2012
SITUATION
The front window may have wind noise by the side mirror when driving.
CAUSE
The window guide seal is not properly fitted to thedoor.
PROCEDURE
With the window closed, confirm the location of thedeformed (folded-in) window guide seal near the mirror
triangle, and then proceed to the next step.
1. On the affected front door, check
both sides of the seal and locate
the folded-in area.

2. This close-up shows the folded-in seal area. Insert a narrow
nylon tool from above the fold
and between the window glass
and seal. Gently work the tool
downward, and pry the seal
outward to eliminate the folded
area.

3. Confirm that both the inside and
outside of the front window glass
are parallel to the seal and
uniform with no folds. The
window must remain closed for a
minimum of two hours for the
seal to “learn” the new position

Can you include the mentioned pictures too?

alex_msu · 02-01-2013, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

Can you include the mentioned pictures too?

Here you go.

hav2flynow · 02-08-2013, 02:54 PM

OK Guy's..***MY Whistle is FIXED*** Mine was the Left Drip Moulding. Removed and Replaced.. NOISE IS GONE!!!!!!

01-23-2013, 07:57 PM	#69
Sladester100 Private First Class Drives: F30 320d ED Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South East England, UK Posts: 139 iTrader: (0)	My noise appears to he coming from around the b pillar. No real whistle just general wind / road noise. Louder than my old 2007 Vauxhall Astra! __________________ On order/Its Here! F30 320d ED Melbourne Metallic, Vis Pack, Dakota Leather, & Other Goodies

01-26-2013, 04:23 PM	#77
AndDown Just Copacetic! Drives: 2013 F30 328i AlpinWeiss Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 118 iTrader: (0)	Whistling sound resolved... Took my car into the dealer to have the ASS re-code and to check a whistling sound coming from the passenger side A-pillar area when driving at highway speeds. Got the re-code done and the whistle resolved. It was the windshield side trim that was not tightly attached and would let air through a small gap hence the whistle. Attached is the technician's notes and a picture of the windshield trim. Attached Images

02-01-2013, 10:30 AM	#85
alex_msu New Member Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6spd Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: nj Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	Si B51 22 12 SI B51 22 12 Body Equipment This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B5122 12 dated June 2012. designates changes to this revision SUBJECT Wind Noise from Front Door Window Seal by Side Mirror MODEL F30 From start of production (SOP) to June 2012 SITUATION The front window may have wind noise by the side mirror when driving. CAUSE The window guide seal is not properly fitted to thedoor. PROCEDURE With the window closed, confirm the location of thedeformed (folded-in) window guide seal near the mirror triangle, and then proceed to the next step. 1. On the affected front door, check both sides of the seal and locate the folded-in area. 2. This close-up shows the folded-in seal area. Insert a narrow nylon tool from above the fold and between the window glass and seal. Gently work the tool downward, and pry the seal outward to eliminate the folded area. 3. Confirm that both the inside and outside of the front window glass are parallel to the seal and uniform with no folds. The window must remain closed for a minimum of two hours for the seal to “learn” the new position

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01-24-2013, 12:22 AM	#74
Tk718 New Member Drives: 2011 335 xi Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	I feel a draft coming in from the bottom of the driver's side door. I started noticing it when it Got colder outside. Even if I turn up the heat the draft is noticeable. Also above 55mph there's wind noise coming in from the windshield , this is definitely not normal and this is the first car I encountered this.

01-24-2013, 01:29 PM	#76
kcidymkcus321 New Member Drives: 2013 328i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	I have the wind noise issue as well, we noticed it the very night we picked up the car...it is very annoying and to have this on a $50K car is not good! I just dropped it off at the dealership today for this issue...thanks to this thread I told them to not mess with any seals or replace the windshield, i just want this issue noted and see if what the resolution is in PUMA, and to call me before any work is done on the car with the proposed solution...no call yet. I am not happy that this is happening on many other F30s because that means I have an issue that is not easily resolved...if there even is a resolution for it. I prefer them not mess with the windshield, sunroof, seals, etc until they determine what the exact cause is... I am waiting for Feb 1 to see if the new mirror caps resolve the issue as a previous poster mentioned he will update us on Feb 1 after he gets them installed... And for everyone saying just turn up the radio, I shouldnt have to turn the radio up to avoid hearing a noise that shouldnt be there in the first place. If I have the volume low, I can still hear it and it is annoying as fkuc!

01-27-2013, 07:54 PM	#78
kcidymkcus321 New Member Drives: 2013 328i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	The post above is absolutely correct!!! My dealership came to the same exact conclusions and notes on the paperwork match!! I just did not have time to take the picture and post the results just yet as I was busy with Gasperilla and the pirates invading Tampa... But a resolution has been found and I am estatic!

02-01-2013, 08:04 AM	#84
EJIB Private Drives: F30 Luxury 18D 143 BHP 320NM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 87 iTrader: (0)	This is what I found .... http://venttec.com.my/ViewCatalog.as...owId=9&Sortid=

02-08-2013, 02:54 PM	#88
hav2flynow Private First Class Drives: 2013 Mineral White 328i Sport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 165 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 F30 328i Sport ... [0.00]	OK Guy's..*MY Whistle is FIXED* Mine was the Left Drip Moulding. Removed and Replaced.. NOISE IS GONE!!!!!!