Spring 2013 Updates (for European market) - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

sequential · 01-14-2013, 07:37 AM

Just spotted this press release listing all the Spring 2013 updates. Enjoy

n55x3 · 01-14-2013, 08:49 AM

This doc outlines plans for releasing an F31 335i Touring variant. I am thinking this document is only accurate for European buyers. If a 335i Touring is coming to the states Spring 2013 then I'm cancelling my order for my 335i msport.

Anyone have any supporting evidence of a F31 335i coming to the states?

SamS · 01-14-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by n55x3

This doc outlines plans for releasing an F31 335i Touring variant. I am thinking this document is only accurate for European buyers. If a 335i Touring is coming to the states Spring 2013 then I'm cancelling my order for my 335i msport.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that doc only applies to European cars.

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Originally Posted by n55x3

Anyone have any supporting evidence of a F31 335i coming to the states?

Seems very unlikely the US will get an F31 335i. F31 is already gonna be a looooow volume module, so the price of homologation for another engine variant is a very high incremental cost.

Tsuvoi · 01-14-2013, 10:52 AM

Yes this is a Euro market document but there are some europe-based customers on this board.

As far as I'm concerned I'm very interested in whatever updates will be made to the 2014 3 series in the US. Is it worth the wait?

claykin · 01-14-2013, 10:55 AM

Love it. Euro 1 series gets new Pro Nav while BMWNA continues to jerk around US/CA F30 buyers. And X3's made in South Carolina for Europe will also get it while US/CA based X3's will not (at least until MY14).

claykin · 01-14-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ft1337

Yes this is a Euro market document but there are some europe-based customers on this board.

As far as I'm concerned I'm very interested in whatever updates will be made to the 2014 3 series in the US. Is it worth the wait?

My guess is there's not much changing for MY14 and that could be why BMWNA is holding off on the new Pro Nav for NA market. They want something tangible for the MY14 fact sheet. Just a guess.

Oh, the Diesels will be a big MY14 push but diesel is still a specific use case for most US buyers.

SamS · 01-14-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by claykin

Love it. Euro 1 series gets new Pro Nav while BMWNA continues to jerk around US/CA F30 buyers. And X3's made in South Carolina for Europe will also get it while US/CA based X3's will not (at least until MY14).

It is almost certainty that F25 X3 will switch to MY2014 with March 2013 production, and all of them worldwide will have the NBT Navigation.

claykin · 01-14-2013, 11:09 AM

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It is almost certainty that F25 X3 will switch to MY2014 with March 2013 production, and all of them worldwide will have the NBT Navigation.

Ah ha. I don't pay much attention to the truck products.

You betta get those bags packed. Almost time for a little trip up North....Enjoy. Drive safely.

SamS · 01-14-2013, 11:27 AM

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Ah ha. I don't pay much attention to the truck products.

You betta get those bags packed. Almost time for a little trip up North....Enjoy. Drive safely.

Thanks. I will be sure and ask them about these new leaks

claykin · 01-14-2013, 11:40 AM

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Thanks. I will be sure and ask them about these new leaks

Don't expect much. NA has their lips sewn shut.

If you keep your eyes peeled you'll likely see something. I saw an X4 in disguise going out to the proving track. They also have/had a prototype M5 (no big deal anymore) one of the track drivers was using as his pace car. He took my friend for a quick lap in it.

SamS · 01-14-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by claykin

Don't expect much. NA has their lips sewn shut.

If you keep your eyes peeled you'll likely see something. I saw an X4 in disguise going out to the proving track. They also have/had a prototype M5 (no big deal anymore) one of the track drivers was using as his pace car. He took my friend for a quick lap in it.

When I toured the Munich plant in October 2011, I saw one or two F30s rolling down the line. You have to keep your eyes peeled and know what to look for, for certain. I'd love to catch a glimpse of an X4. I'm rather shocked that no one has apparently caught it on camera, yet.

claykin · 01-14-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

When I toured the Munich plant in October 2011, I saw one or two F30s rolling down the line. You have to keep your eyes peeled and know what to look for, for certain. I'd love to catch a glimpse of an X4. I'm rather shocked that no one has apparently caught it on camera, yet.

Our track instructor told us it was an X4, but to me it looked like every other X?. In BMW camo could you really tell a huge difference between the X1/3/5? Honestly, I didn't spend time looking at it. Was too interested in watching others spin out doing rat race in a 650.

TheObviousChild · 01-14-2013, 01:19 PM

Interesting that the 335 Touring is listed at 306hp.....as opposed to 300hp for the sedan.

...even though we know these numbers are underrated, but to list 306 exactly. Who knows their logic.

SamS · 01-14-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheObviousChild

Interesting that the 335 Touring is listed at 306hp.....as opposed to 300hp for the sedan.

...even though we know these numbers are underrated, but to list 306 exactly. Who knows their logic.

UK/Europe always measures in bhp, which is equivalent to 300HP SAE. Or 225kW.

Not more/different power, just different way of expressing the measurement.

TheObviousChild · 01-14-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

UK/Europe always measures in bhp, which is equivalent to 300HP SAE. Or 225kW.

Not more/different power, just different way of expressing the measurement.

Thanks!

clarence · 01-14-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

UK/Europe always measures in bhp, which is equivalent to 300HP SAE. Or 225kW.

Not more/different power, just different way of expressing the measurement.

UK uses the same hp as USA, Europe uses the metric hp (ps, ch etc.). The figure u see is metric hp.

SamS · 01-14-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by clarence

UK uses the same hp as USA, Europe uses the metric hp (ps, ch etc.). The figure u see is metric hp.

BMW UK uses the European metric HP number when describing their cars.

You can clearly see 306hp listed here for the 335i saloon, on their UK site: http://www.bmw.co.uk/en/new-vehicles...ical-data.html

as7920 · 01-14-2013, 04:42 PM

Does this mean we will have M340i (N55 with 320hp) and/or M340d?

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01-14-2013, 08:49 AM	#2
n55x3 Lieutenant Drives: n55 x3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: us Posts: 412 iTrader: (0)	This doc outlines plans for releasing an F31 335i Touring variant. I am thinking this document is only accurate for European buyers. If a 335i Touring is coming to the states Spring 2013 then I'm cancelling my order for my 335i msport. Anyone have any supporting evidence of a F31 335i coming to the states?

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Tsuvoi Banned Drives: 2013 F30 328i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: New York Posts: 272 iTrader: (0)	Yes this is a Euro market document but there are some europe-based customers on this board. As far as I'm concerned I'm very interested in whatever updates will be made to the 2014 3 series in the US. Is it worth the wait?

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claykin Major Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,376 iTrader: (0)	Love it. Euro 1 series gets new Pro Nav while BMWNA continues to jerk around US/CA F30 buyers. And X3's made in South Carolina for Europe will also get it while US/CA based X3's will not (at least until MY14).