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Renus · 01-10-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

a piggy back on top of a flash?

that's a sure fire way to confuse your ECU...don't think it's possible, but willing to watch others with this experiment!

No, I mean either piggyback/flash. Do you know people who upgraded RB turbo running both flash and piggyback? I heard my Sweden fd said about that as neither piggyback nor flash can match with upgraded RB turbo, should run both to get the power.

Rossifumi · 01-10-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Renus

No, I mean either piggyback/flash. Do you know people who upgraded RB turbo running both flash and piggyback? I heard my Sweden fd said about that as neither piggyback nor flash can match with upgraded RB turbo, should run both to get the power.

But since the PPK is a flash you can't add 20% on top of that and think you will get more than you would on a stock vehicle.

Renus · 01-10-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossifumi

But since the PPK is a flash you can't add 20% on top of that and think you will get more than you would on a stock vehicle.

Powerkit = PPK I think it is the shortform those brothers talking about here right? If so, powerkit is an additional raditor + bigger & high frequency fan as well as upgraded ECU software to run this powerkit IMHO.

Rossifumi · 01-10-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Renus

Powerkit = PPK I think it is the shortform those brothers talking about here right? If so, powerkit is an additional raditor + bigger & high frequency fan as well as upgraded ECU software to run this powerkit IMHO.

Not on the F30 N55 (the x20d get some other goodies).
It is a flash and some styling parts and an "engine silencer" for more sound.

Renus · 01-10-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossifumi

Not on the F30 N55 (the x20d get some other goodies).
It is a flash and some styling parts and a "engine silencer" for more sound.

If as your said, I think I made a mistake on here, thanks for correcting me dude.

nsquared · 01-15-2013, 02:41 AM

So with the PPK, once released, we are looking at 326 HP / 317 TQ throughout the powerband and in all gears right?

zibawal · 01-15-2013, 11:46 AM

Any thing for n20?

shivaswrath · 01-15-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

So with the PPK, once released, we are looking at 326 HP / 317 TQ throughout the powerband and in all gears right?

we'll only know once released...

nsquared · 01-15-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

we'll only know once released...

Sorry just anxious. I really want it lol. Hopefully its not a complete let down and the gains on the car is noticeable with the butt dyno.

shivaswrath · 01-15-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

Sorry just anxious. I really want it lol. Hopefully its not a complete let down and the gains on the car is noticeable with the butt dyno.

For sure butt dyno will be noticeable...the throttle tip in, remapped A/F will all give you the impression you've got some "hmph" under the hood.

I've read similar assessments from the E90 owners who had it done...

However, the Dinan tune seems to be more "impressive"...

For me it's a cost/convenience thing...if I move out of the area, I'll probably get the PPK. If I stay near my current dealer, I'll get the Dinan.

nsquared · 01-15-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

For sure butt dyno will be noticeable...the throttle tip in, remapped A/F will all give you the impression you've got some "hmph" under the hood.

I've read similar assessments from the E90 owners who had it done...

However, the Dinan tune seems to be more "impressive"...

For me it's a cost/convenience thing...if I move out of the area, I'll probably get the PPK. If I stay near my current dealer, I'll get the Dinan.

Interesting. Thanks for the info. On the same boat as you, need something convenient to my location.

I'm assuming both the PPK and the Dinan tune won't mess up comfort mode and eco pro correct?

shivaswrath · 01-15-2013, 02:23 PM

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Interesting. Thanks for the info. On the same boat as you, need something convenient to my location.

I'm assuming both the PPK and the Dinan tune won't mess up comfort mode and eco pro correct?

PPK won't screw up Eco/Comfort/Sport for sure, especially the EPA numbers, BMW has to maintain those.

Dinan, unsure...I would assume they will enhance the EPA #'s, and HAVE to keep the 3 modes, but we'll see...that's probably what's taking them so long.

My current dealer would update ECU and reprogram Dinan since they are a Dinan reseller, and actually make $$ off of it...however, if I move, who knows. My ultimate preference is to maintain my 6/100k warranty+Maintenance Plan through BMW as long as possible...

nsquared · 01-15-2013, 08:50 PM

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PPK won't screw up Eco/Comfort/Sport for sure, especially the EPA numbers, BMW has to maintain those.

Dinan, unsure...I would assume they will enhance the EPA #'s, and HAVE to keep the 3 modes, but we'll see...that's probably what's taking them so long.

My current dealer would update ECU and reprogram Dinan since they are a Dinan reseller, and actually make $$ off of it...however, if I move, who knows. My ultimate preference is to maintain my 6/100k warranty+Maintenance Plan through BMW as long as possible...

Interesting. I also want to keep my 6/100k as well + maintenance.

Man, this PPK better be amazing.

pommes · 01-19-2013, 05:39 PM

In March, comes a performance kit for the 330d
Details are not yet known

nsquared · 01-21-2013, 03:35 AM

I find myself thinking about the PPK everyday. I think I have a problem :/.

2013 335IS · 01-21-2013, 05:24 AM

How much does this cost? Will it be available for the 335is?

shivaswrath · 01-21-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013 335IS

How much does this cost? Will it be available for the 335is?

There is no F30 335is.

shivaswrath · 01-21-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

I find myself thinking about the PPK everyday. I think I have a problem :/.

Lol, dude, just drive and enjoy your car...it's not like it's a slouch without it. And the PPK will only sharpen it, won't make it a Viper or something

nsquared · 01-21-2013, 01:54 PM

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There is no F30 335is.

This.

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Lol, dude, just drive and enjoy your car...it's not like it's a slouch without it. And the PPK will only sharpen it, won't make it a Viper or something

I think my car feels a bit weak because I don't have my fan fully repaired yet.

DarkTrigger · 01-21-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

This.

I think my car feels a bit weak because I don't have my fan fully repaired yet.

I get my car back tomorrow. They said there was only 1 fan in the country and it's coming from back east!

I'll let you know if I notice the power increase with the new fan. I know that after it broke is felts weaker than a 328i.

nsquared · 01-21-2013, 03:07 PM

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I get my car back tomorrow. They said there was only 1 fan in the country and it's coming from back east!

I'll let you know if I notice the power increase with the new fan. I know that after it broke is felts weaker than a 328i.

Awesome, keep us posted for sure. They partially fixed my fan so I'm wondering if a new fan would be better.

DarkTrigger · 01-21-2013, 03:24 PM

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Awesome, keep us posted for sure. They partially fixed my fan so I'm wondering if a new fan would be better.

I actually read all the other threads and they said the fan was broken because of a bad temperature element. I don't know if this is true, but one of the mods said his car felt way better after they replaced the fan. I'm hoping that I don't have to get a new temperature element as well. Will let you know soon!

01-15-2013, 02:41 AM	#226
nsquared [Versatile] Drives: (S)LOW. Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California & Utah Posts: 1,339 iTrader: (0)	So with the PPK, once released, we are looking at 326 HP / 317 TQ throughout the powerband and in all gears right? __________________ '13 AW F30 335i ///M-Sport 6MT. OEM(+). [Liquid Innovations] [Envisions] [Rob's Speed Shop]

01-21-2013, 03:35 AM	#235
nsquared [Versatile] Drives: (S)LOW. Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California & Utah Posts: 1,339 iTrader: (0)	I find myself thinking about the PPK everyday. I think I have a problem :/. __________________ '13 AW F30 335i ///M-Sport 6MT. OEM(+). [Liquid Innovations] [Envisions] [Rob's Speed Shop]

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2013 335IS New Member Drives: 2013 335is black on black Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Cost? How much does this cost? Will it be available for the 335is?

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pommes New Member Drives: F30 328i estoril blue Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Graz Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	In March, comes a performance kit for the 330d Details are not yet known