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      12-07-2012, 08:09 PM   #133
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OK so check that against this. this was sent to me by a good guy who ill be soon getting my car from (hopefully). anyway, compare part #s and also notice it specifically mentions yellow springs ... Shivas, if ur car doesnt have yellow springs (which i dont see) then u got dupped my friend.

btw my car will be msport so notice i dont need a new sway bar here.
I was just on the BMW site and it doesn't show an M Performance suspension for the F30.

That accessories searcher is very odd. If you happened to select another mode or another year and it shows some parts, then after you change model year and/or model it may still show the parts for the other car selected.
You have to go into the search clean and directly select 2013, 3 series, mode type.
The thing/search is messed up, BMW needs to fix it.
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      12-07-2012, 08:29 PM   #134
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The US BMW site, under M performance suspension, doesn't show that option/suspension as available.

The standard sport/M sport suspension is 10mm lower than the standard suspension. IIRC the M Performance suspension is supposed to be 10mm lower on top of the sport, so a total 20mm drop from standard non sport suspension.
Your picts look like you have the wrong springs. That car sits like it's an Xdrive. Do the springs look new to you?
Did they give you the OEM springs?

Ride height/drop is dictated by the springs, not the dampers.
So it may be that you got sport/Msport springs with M Performance dampers.
That will work, but you now may be under sprung and over damped.
Can't say for sure as we don't know if the M performance dampers have any firmer damping than the M adaptive dampers, which also use the sport/Msport black springs.

I'm looking into M Perormance springs to go with my M adaptive dampers.
If those are the sport/Msport springs along with the M Performance dampers you should notice a big difference in handling compared to the non sport standard springs and dampers.
Yeah, I think they might have in fact given me the M/Sport Springs, rather than the M Perf ones.

Again, I have a standard, so for me, getting the springs for FREE from them for this whole hassle, was fine. The stance is a little odd, I agree, but I check the part numbers, they didn't install the same springs, so I'm unsure what I have.

What I can tell from driving is that...it's a pretty dramatic handling difference. And I like it. If it's the wrong spring set, I'll shit on them later....at this point, I think the dealer AND me are tired of the car being in and out of the shop.
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      12-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #135
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U guys aren't seein it because that screenshot was sent to me from a dealer. Not from the BMW website ... and yes the springs r supposed to be yellow and that is a shot of the F30 kit
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      12-07-2012, 09:27 PM   #136
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You said $2900 for the suspension and install and you got the springs for free.

So should we be expecting to pay close to 4000 for everything

congrats on getting it done, and hopefully we can get some better pics with the wheels on.

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      12-07-2012, 09:52 PM   #137
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U guys aren't seein it because that screenshot was sent to me from a dealer. Not from the BMW website ... and yes the springs r supposed to be yellow and that is a shot of the F30 kit
Part numbers on the M Performance Springs?
If I get those, I can always go back to them and.. Watch them flip me off. Lol!
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      12-07-2012, 11:21 PM   #138
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U guys aren't seein it because that screenshot was sent to me from a dealer. Not from the BMW website ... and yes the springs r supposed to be yellow and that is a shot of the F30 kit
Part numbers on the M Performance Springs?
If I get those, I can always go back to them and.. Watch them flip me off. Lol!
Should be in the pic I attached. Also shows MSRP for the entire kit ... waitin on a final sale price from the SA though

This whole thing is just such a mess though - so I can't confirm anythin until I have my car and kit on
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      12-07-2012, 11:25 PM   #139
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Should be in the pic I attached. Also shows MSRP for the entire kit ... waitin on a final sale price from the SA though

This whole thing is just such a mess though - so I can't confirm anythin until I have my car and kit on
this is what throws me...in the M Perf Catalog for F30s, this is what they describe (next to the red springs):
With the M Performance chassis, your BMW  Series
experience becomes even more unique. The shock
absorbers, wishbones and stabilisers have been
extensively tested and coordinated using strict
motorsport criteria. The result is even more dynamic
driving that will amaze on every straight and every
corner.


So I have the shock absorders and stabilizers...and the springs are clearly the M/Sport ones (black). Where the HELL are the red ones coming from.

I hate being the guinea pig.

At least what I HAVE learned and can show/compare to the forum: you can use your stock Sport/M Springs with this kit and have a pretty sick handling car.
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      12-08-2012, 12:27 AM   #140
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Tru dat ... good attitude
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      12-08-2012, 12:33 AM   #141
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I wonder how H&R sport springs would work with m performance struts
Might just be a good combo
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      12-08-2012, 03:45 AM   #142
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U guys aren't seein it because that screenshot was sent to me from a dealer. Not from the BMW website ... and yes the springs r supposed to be yellow and that is a shot of the F30 kit
I don't think this proves anything, except that dealers don't have a clue. The top of the screenshot reads "This part is not available for the vehicle you selected", i.e. a 2012 335i.
I'm not convinced Shiv doesn't have the correct springs. The v1 kit probably is based on the M sport springs.
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Here are the part numbers banana...
Right.. but it states the part#'s are wrong for the ARB's...
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      12-10-2012, 08:48 AM   #144
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Part numbers on the M Performance Springs?
If I get those, I can always go back to them and.. Watch them flip me off. Lol!
sent you an email shiv.
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I don't think this proves anything, except that dealers don't have a clue. The top of the screenshot reads "This part is not available for the vehicle you selected", i.e. a 2012 335i.
I'm not convinced Shiv doesn't have the correct springs. The v1 kit probably is based on the M sport springs.

According to the ETK Catalog, the CORRECT springs for the BMW M Performance Suspension is:

front: 31336860630
rear: 33536860621

That's for a 335...

Shiv's are the M Sport springs based on his #'s.

This is straight from BMW, not a dealer.
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      12-10-2012, 11:53 AM   #146
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And from Tischer:
"The part numbers you'd need for the

Front Springs is
31336860629 x 2, for manual transmission
31336860630 x 2, for automatic transmission

Rear Springs (for both auto and manual trans)
33536860620 x 2

springs are $92.40 each"

I dont even know that these are available for order
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      12-10-2012, 12:33 PM   #147
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According to the ETK Catalog, the CORRECT springs for the BMW M Performance Suspension is:

front: 31336860630
rear: 33536860621

That's for a 335...

Shiv's are the M Sport springs based on his #'s.

This is straight from BMW, not a dealer.
thanks Guys..I guess too late!
I'll share with dealer, unsure at this point if they'll correct their mistake...
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This thread isn't giving me any confidence in buying the M Performance suspension yet...
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This thread isn't giving me any confidence in buying the M Performance suspension yet...
Well if it's any consolation, car passed the wife test.

She drove it today and never mentioned anything... Now that's a great sports suspension. I can take it to the extreme, and yet DD she won't notice. I'm stoked.
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      12-10-2012, 05:18 PM   #150
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U guys aren't seein it because that screenshot was sent to me from a dealer. Not from the BMW website ... and yes the springs r supposed to be yellow and that is a shot of the F30 kit
Ok.
Buy, have you tried going to the BMWusa site and look for yourself?

What I posted is true, the BMW website does not show the M performance suspension kit as available for F30 sedans, let alone any needed part numbers.

The site does show a suspension set with yellow springs but it's for E90 328i and 335i coupes, even with same mode year '12 and '13.

If the picture you post is from a dealer, then I'd still be worried, because that dealer isn't looking at anything special just the BMW site.

As the dealer to send you a screen shot of the parts department ordering screen.
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Updated pics...springs are settling.

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Any better pics?
I wanted to give a few days of settling to upload few pics. Def looks better, back has lowered a little, it has a more even rake now, as I expected. Pardon multiple angles, this is to help those that are considering this option if they have an M sport/Sportline springs and want stiffer dampeners:





and yes, the springs are black, not yellow...nothing wrong with that!
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I also spoke with my SA, she's checking with Part's on what's going on...I'll see what they say.

this, coupled with the Rust issue, I'll have to give my SA a CRATE of wine for Xmas, lol!
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I also spoke with my SA, she's checking with Part's on what's going on...I'll see what they say.

this, coupled with the Rust issue, I'll have to give my SA a CRATE of wine for Xmas, lol!

Hi Shiv,

Can you please make it simple, my 335i is sport version, if I want to change my suspension to M Performance Suspension, what should I order and part numbers too? Thanks in advance.
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