M Performance Power Kit Details - Page 9 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

tdizzle · 11-30-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 340driver

Nope... Just tune only!

That's straight ridiculous then, way more than the old PPKs were. Would make more sense if it included the exhaust.

gmazzu · 11-30-2012, 03:31 PM

Hopefully it just costs more there then here. 3k for a tune is nuts unless we get 500 HP

mikew2069 · 11-30-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnofcross

Man, a new ECU makes it a bit expensive. But if we get just the tune and cosmetic stuff, it shouldn't be more than $600 right? I wouldn't know, never had a BMW before so I'm optimistic.

EDIT: N/m... looks like most of us here now will need the new ECU. Only post 11-12 cars will not need the ECU.

Esplain please...

SamS · 11-30-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikew2069

Esplain please...

Cars produced beginning Nov 2012 have an updated ECU. You'll still get a new ECU either way when you order the PPK, but only the older cars will need it replaced. Post Nov 2012 cars will have the ECU updated via the software.

mikew2069 · 11-30-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

Cars produced beginning Nov 2012 have an updated ECU. You'll still get a new ECU either way when you order the PPK, but only the older cars will need it replaced. Post Nov 2012 cars will have the ECU updated via the software.

Sweet, my car build is 11/2012. What's new about it? Just new hardware?

SamS · 11-30-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mikew2069

Sweet, my car build is 11/2012. What's new about it? Just new hardware?

Don't get too excited, a "new" ECU isn't going to give you more power or anything. It just means a new module that doesn't have to be "hardware replaced" in order to take the tuning of the PPK software.

mikew2069 · 11-30-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

Don't get too excited, a "new" ECU isn't going to give you more power or anything. It just means a new module that doesn't have to be "hardware replaced" in order to take the tuning of the PPK software.

That's what I figured, hence my "just new hardware" question.

johnofcross · 11-30-2012, 06:41 PM

I thought it was new hardware. Literally a new ECU according to the RealOEM pic.l

tg335 · 11-30-2012, 11:57 PM

It is amazing how in the dark most dealers are about this kit. This is my second 335 with PPK and PE and it arrived at port yesterday. Should be delivered next week some time. Z10 option for performance exhaust. Z3B option for performance power kit. Z10 is $885 invoice($1335 msrp) and Z3B is $923 invoice ($1370 msrp). I expect performance gains to be the same as with my current vehicle 2010 335i xdrive. I had 2007 335i without any mods and the gains were noticeable with the PPK and PE. You certainly can get bigger gains for cheaper aftermarket but I wasn't interested in that on a lease. Will update ASAP with info on the new ride, allowing for some break in time.

tojo_m · 12-01-2012, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tg335

It is amazing how in the dark most dealers are about this kit. This is my second 335 with PPK and PE and it arrived at port yesterday. Should be delivered next week some time. Z10 option for performance exhaust. Z3B option for performance power kit. Z10 is $885 invoice($1335 msrp) and Z3B is $923 invoice ($1370 msrp). I expect performance gains to be the same as with my current vehicle 2010 335i xdrive. I had 2007 335i without any mods and the gains were noticeable with the PPK and PE. You certainly can get bigger gains for cheaper aftermarket but I wasn't interested in that on a lease. Will update ASAP with info on the new ride, allowing for some break in time.

tg335, congrats! Do you plan to dyno?

Wajhik · 12-01-2012, 11:09 AM

Z3B is the kit in question here, and it has been determined that it is only Exhaust and Grills, a combo "holiday" pack....

nsquared · 01-05-2013, 11:51 PM

When is the PPK (ECU upgrade) available for everybody?

tojo_m · 01-06-2013, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

When is the PPK (ECU upgrade) available for everybody?

Probably in March if you have M-Sports line.

nsquared · 01-06-2013, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tojo_m

Probably in March if you have M-Sports line.

Wow thats a long time. I spoke to a tech recently and he said the PPK's increase in performance is throughout the powerband. Is this confirmed?

tojo_m · 01-06-2013, 12:43 PM

The first post in this thread has a before and after chart. Both curves look pretty parallel to each other, so power and torque seem to be linear.

nsquared · 01-06-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tojo_m

The first post in this thread has a before and after chart. Both curves look pretty parallel to each other, so power and torque seem to be linear.

I did see the PDF file and yes it does seem to be linear. Very excited to pick this PPK up.

shivaswrath · 01-06-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tg335

It is amazing how in the dark most dealers are about this kit. This is my second 335 with PPK and PE and it arrived at port yesterday. Should be delivered next week some time. Z10 option for performance exhaust. Z3B option for performance power kit. Z10 is $885 invoice($1335 msrp) and Z3B is $923 invoice ($1370 msrp). I expect performance gains to be the same as with my current vehicle 2010 335i xdrive. I had 2007 335i without any mods and the gains were noticeable with the PPK and PE. You certainly can get bigger gains for cheaper aftermarket but I wasn't interested in that on a lease. Will update ASAP with info on the new ride, allowing for some break in time.

The Z3B is a black grill and Exhaust Combo.

The PPK, if it is indeed installed, I'd love to see a picture of the order sheet and the plaques on the engine cover, stickers on the side sills, etc. They have a release date of March 2013, which is about 80 days out now.

tg335 · 01-07-2013, 12:20 AM

The performance power kit is, indeed, NOT installed. Oh well. I was misled by my order sheet which had both Performance Power Package AND Performance Exhaust on it. This apparently caused some confusion at the port and I ended up with the only package currently available, Performance Power Package (Z3B) which is, as stated here previously, is the M exhaust and grilles. Not happy with BMW for keeping dealers in the dark on this. I would have extended my current lease and waited until March. I am happy with the M exhaust, though. Sounds good and a little less intrusive than the prior exhaust. Probably will not get the power kit installed as it is not worth the money on a short term lease. If it is anything like I had on my prior 335, I would recommend it. Good power boost and keeps warranty intact.

nsquared · 01-07-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

The Z3B is a black grill and Exhaust Combo.

The PPK, if it is indeed installed, I'd love to see a picture of the order sheet and the plaques on the engine cover, stickers on the side sills, etc. They have a release date of March 2013, which is about 80 days out now.

Do you know if the PPK will come w/ the new engine cover or is that separate?

shivaswrath · 01-07-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

Do you know if the PPK will come w/ the new engine cover or is that separate?

it's all included.

nsquared · 01-07-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

it's all included.

Thats pretty cool. The M performance engine cover is awesome.

What else is included in the PPK? Software, engine cover and?

SamS · 01-07-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nsquared

Thats pretty cool. The M performance engine cover is awesome.

What else is included in the PPK? Software, engine cover and?

New engine control module for pre-Nov '12 cars.

11-30-2012, 06:41 PM	#184
johnofcross Second Lieutenant Drives: Superman 2013 F30 335i M Sport Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 230 iTrader: (0)	I thought it was new hardware. Literally a new ECU according to the RealOEM pic.l __________________ 2013 BMW 335i Sedan Estoril Blue II M Sport 19" 403M\|6MT\|Dynamic Handling\|Tech Package\|Coral Red Leather\|Park Distance Control\|Harmon Kardon

11-30-2012, 11:57 PM	#185
tg335 Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 F30 xDrive/PPK/PE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 37 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 335i xDrive [4.50]	It is amazing how in the dark most dealers are about this kit. This is my second 335 with PPK and PE and it arrived at port yesterday. Should be delivered next week some time. Z10 option for performance exhaust. Z3B option for performance power kit. Z10 is $885 invoice($1335 msrp) and Z3B is $923 invoice ($1370 msrp). I expect performance gains to be the same as with my current vehicle 2010 335i xdrive. I had 2007 335i without any mods and the gains were noticeable with the PPK and PE. You certainly can get bigger gains for cheaper aftermarket but I wasn't interested in that on a lease. Will update ASAP with info on the new ride, allowing for some break in time. __________________ 2013 F30 M Sport/xDrive/Black Sapphire/Black Dakota/Performance Power/M Sport Exhaust/AT/Premium/Cold Weather/Tech/19"

01-05-2013, 11:51 PM	#188
nsquared [Versatile] Drives: (S)LOW. Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California & Utah Posts: 1,340 iTrader: (0)	When is the PPK (ECU upgrade) available for everybody? __________________ '13 AW F30 335i ///M-Sport 6MT. OEM(+). [Liquid Innovations] [Envisions] [Rob's Speed Shop]

01-07-2013, 12:20 AM	#194
tg335 Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 F30 xDrive/PPK/PE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 37 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 335i xDrive [4.50]	The performance power kit is, indeed, NOT installed. Oh well. I was misled by my order sheet which had both Performance Power Package AND Performance Exhaust on it. This apparently caused some confusion at the port and I ended up with the only package currently available, Performance Power Package (Z3B) which is, as stated here previously, is the M exhaust and grilles. Not happy with BMW for keeping dealers in the dark on this. I would have extended my current lease and waited until March. I am happy with the M exhaust, though. Sounds good and a little less intrusive than the prior exhaust. Probably will not get the power kit installed as it is not worth the money on a short term lease. If it is anything like I had on my prior 335, I would recommend it. Good power boost and keeps warranty intact. __________________ 2013 F30 M Sport/xDrive/Black Sapphire/Black Dakota/Performance Power/M Sport Exhaust/AT/Premium/Cold Weather/Tech/19"

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11-30-2012, 03:31 PM	#178
gmazzu Private Drives: 335 M-Sport X-Drive 6 speed Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 66 iTrader: (2)	Hopefully it just costs more there then here. 3k for a tune is nuts unless we get 500 HP

12-01-2012, 11:09 AM	#187
Wajhik Private Drives: 2013 335i EB Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Springfield Illinois Posts: 72 iTrader: (0)	Z3B is the kit in question here, and it has been determined that it is only Exhaust and Grills, a combo "holiday" pack....

01-06-2013, 12:43 PM	#191
tojo_m First Lieutenant Drives: fast a F30 335i + PPK Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 353 iTrader: (0)	The first post in this thread has a before and after chart. Both curves look pretty parallel to each other, so power and torque seem to be linear.