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| 11-28-2012, 03:33 PM | #23 |
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Great review!
Just to remember the two 0-points races in Spa and Suzuka for Alonso! He lost the championship there.
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| 11-28-2012, 03:43 PM | #24 | |
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Alonso crashed out twice, Vettel with a few Alternator and fueling problem, Hamilton retired twice and crashed out several times by others.
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| 11-29-2012, 07:41 AM | #25 |
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Not yet sure Vettel is full worthy. Let's wait outcomes of the issue about some Vettel's tricky overtakings under yellow flag regime.
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| 11-29-2012, 10:04 AM | #27 | |
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FIA deems Vettel pass legal, saying there is 'no case to answer'
Nothing to discuss...moving on...
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| 11-29-2012, 12:16 PM | #28 |
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Ferrari (and by default Alonso) is like a spoiled, over-compensating, mamma's-boy brat, who fake-dives in soccer and tries to bully his way around the schoolyard. Instead of going out like worthy foes, they leave the championship like cry-babies. This shouldn't shock coming from the team that would have preferred Alonso to be world champion on the back of Ferrari breaking Massa's gearbox seal. In any other sport they would have received penalties for that type of unsportsmanlike conduct.
If Ferrari concentrated half as much on improving the car instead of these pointless 'dirty tricks'... They may have a shot at the title again.
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| 11-29-2012, 12:34 PM | #29 |
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I was fortunate enough to attend and it was an incredible venue and race. Being there, I felt proud that the US finally put together an appropriate "stage" for this great event. I took a video of the start which came out pretty well.
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| 11-29-2012, 01:33 PM | #30 | |
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| 11-29-2012, 01:47 PM | #31 |
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Now I know why Alonso always say "we have the best team". I think he meant "we have the best legal team".
Didn't know Scuderia Ferrari changed their business model to legal consulting firm. ![]()
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| 11-29-2012, 03:37 PM | #32 |
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Initial concerns at the start of the season that tires were making races too much of a lottery dissipated once the 2nd half kicked off and the real WDC contenders emerged. Was happy to see Kimi take a win despite at the misfortune of Lewis. Disappointed in Mark Webber's lack of luck and lack of success in the 2nd half of the season. Finally congrats to Vettel for a well deserved win but a little bit disappointed Alonso wasn't able to pull off the WDC title. Looking forward to next season when I'd expect Vettel and Alonso to continue their tussle for the 2013 WDC. Oh and Hamilton better get used to potentially being less competitive
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| 11-29-2012, 04:33 PM | #33 |
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Keep in mind that each year brings new surprises, new top teams and new struggling teams. Think of the Braun team a few years ago. Or just look at how dominant Red Bull was last year compared to this year, where they were often no better than other teams.
Hamilton could get lucky and be with a top team - or not. That's why they actually run 20 races, instead of just doing it all on a simulator. ![]() Any word on Robert Kubica? |
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| 11-29-2012, 07:05 PM | #34 | |
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At the moment he cannot sit in any single seater yet, due to his surgery and braces on his arm. He requires more room in the cockpit.
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| 11-29-2012, 08:50 PM | #35 |
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I think it would've been foolish for any team in any sport not to inquire as to the legality of the pass upon finding out that there was a possibility that a sanction went unapplied.
As for breaking the seal, I remember in 2000, Ferrari froze, or significantly cooled their refuelling rigs at Monza to mess with the volume to gain an ever so slight advantage over McLaren at their home race. This kind of stuff is how F1 has been for a while. Remember Prost and Senna? Talk about un-sportmanlike. Red Bull seems to have won because their car is quick, without being overtly aggressive. McLaren had a great car and somehow ended up 3rd. Ferrari tried everything they had, ran essentially only one driver, and narrowly missed out. Different teams, I guess.
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| 11-29-2012, 11:33 PM | #36 | |
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Not to mention that it is a team sport, and Ferrari would have been under just as much scrutiny, maybe more, if they hadn't of done everything in their power. Largely a non-issue, and if it was then the rules would be revised next season to cover it. (I've heard nothing suggesting that they will be.)
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| 11-30-2012, 01:33 AM | #37 | |
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| 11-30-2012, 02:08 AM | #38 |
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It was within the rules. I don't see the problem. I don't blame the FIA at all.
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| 11-30-2012, 02:55 AM | #39 |
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Fixed.
My point is, that behaviour wouldn't be readily accepted in many other sports. By the governing body OR the players.
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| 11-30-2012, 12:14 PM | #40 | |
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| 12-02-2012, 08:03 PM | #43 |
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I don't know about that. I've laughed more at Raikkonen than anything else. He is fucking gold.
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| 12-05-2012, 12:30 PM | #44 | |
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Had a lot of respect for Alonso fighting until the last second, but my god I hate Ferrari. They really do remind me of the Italian soccer teams. What a bunch of divas (and divers) ![]()
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