[Roki_014]

what was the difference on the previous 3 between the coupe and sedan?

[hans007]

Originally Posted by SamS

Regardless if they call it 435i or 440i, it's going to have more HP. This is the easiest/best way for BMW to justify the name change and price premium over the regular 3-series sedan.

i don't get why this is just assumed. the 650 and 550i have the same horsepower and have for 2 generations

the A5 and S5 cars have the same horsepower as their sedan versions same with the C class coupes.

If they have the same ending numbers they will have the same horsepower. now if it ends up being a 440 vs 335 then i agree the 440 will have more. but if its a 435 and a 335 then then it'd make sense to assume itll either have the same HP as now, or the 2014 335i will have more hp than the 2013 version.

they don't even have to justify the price premium. they'll just release it and people will buy it anyway even if a 428 costs say $7k more than a 328i someone will buy (or more likely lease) it

[SamS]

Originally Posted by hans007

i don't get why this is just assumed.

Because the 4er is rumored to debut the N55 replacement, which would likely remain exclusive to that car, for a while at least.

[CoolDude196]

Originally Posted by MaestroAl

Might get a 3GT or a 4GC for my next car though

+1

[Alpine F31]

I'm so happy with my F30, I'm not thinking about ANY new car. I'm thinking about a new exhaust system and wheels and driving the shit out of it!

[e92328i998]

Originally Posted by SamS

Because the 4er is rumored to debut the N55 replacement, which would likely remain exclusive to that car, for a while at least.

I think thats flawed. When the e90 came out it was sedan only for 2006 with the 325 and 330. When the e92 joined for 2007 the entire lineup whent to 328 and 335.

[pkim1079]

Originally Posted by Gymkhana

Honestly i had that feel of little panic , cause new coupe seemed sexy as hell to me )
But if we take feelings out and put in some brain work :
Love its shape ! JUst love this car ! )
little 6 series it is !
There is a choice now, for me at least
M135 vs M435/440 ) for the coming summer.
The question is - what will be the price difference with current F30 ?
if they will rise it just like they did with 6 series , sayin its all result of more "premium" and "luxurious" and other bull ***t - i give up.
But if they will keep the price on E92-90 level - i will be the first costumer in local BMW Dealer to change my brand-new F30

That's how BMW is getting you. What a sneaky trick for those that do'nt know squat about cars...
"oh you have the 3? I have the 4, its like a 6."
"um no you fool its the 3 with two less doors."

[pkim1079]

Originally Posted by Alpine F31

I'm so happy with my F30, I'm not thinking about ANY new car. I'm thinking about a new exhaust system and wheels and driving the shit out of it!

Word.
We need to go drive the shit out of it some more. haha.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by e92328i998

I think thats flawed. When the e90 came out it was sedan only for 2006 with the 325 and 330. When the e92 joined for 2007 the entire lineup whent to 328 and 335.

We will see. But we never had this situation before, with a 3er, and 4er.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by SamS

We will see. But we never had this situation before, with a 3er, and 4er.

uh yes we have... the 5 and 6 series...

there was no 6 series (well not for 14 years) until the E63 645 came out. it had the same engine as the... 545i at the time.

[JoeyO]

As long as I can fit a dead hooker in the trunk, sign me up.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by hans007

uh yes we have... the 5 and 6 series...

there was no 6 series (well not for 14 years) until the E63 645 came out. it had the same engine as the... 545i at the time.

Uh no. There never was a 5 series coupe. So splitting the 4 from the 3er is something totally unique in their recent history.

And the 6er has a more powerful (tuned) version of the N55 than what you get in the 5 series. So again, it stands to reason that the 4 I6 coupe will be more powerful than the equivalent 3 series sedan.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by SamS

Uh no. There never was a 5 series coupe. So splitting the 4 from the 3er is something totally unique in their recent history.

And the 6er has a more powerful (tuned) version of the N55 than what you get in the 5 series. So again, it stands to reason that the 4 I6 coupe will be more powerful than the equivalent 3 series sedan.

My point was they won't put a better engine in unless it has a higher number suffix. When the e63 came out it cost more than the e60 and had the same power. Now it wasn't called 5coupe previously but they don't have to give you extra HP to justify a price increase compared to if it were 3 coupe.

Given the 428 and 328 most of us know will have the same n20 and the gap in price there will be more than the e9x generation . Do you think a 428 will also have more HP than a 328 then? By your logic with the n55 and a hypothetical 435 vs 335 it should right?

[SamS]

Originally Posted by hans007

Do you think a 428 will also have more HP than a 328 then? By your logic with the n55 and a hypothetical 435 vs 335 it should right?

I really don't know, about the 428i. No one is even sure if it will be a 428i/435i, or they'll call them something else, i.e. 430i/440i.

[midnight express]

i will hopefully being switching to the f32

[Reznick]

I ordered a sportline 328 and passed on it when it came in. As much as I loved the car , Its just the wife & me. I didn't want to do a short lease on it just to have the "newest car on the block" so I figured I'd wait for the 4 series, but I wouldn't consider it an upgrade.The base coupes have always cost more then the base sedan. Go figure, you pay more $ for less doors. But is there any proof that the engine in the 4 series will be more powerful like I've hear people talking about?Back in 2007 when they 1st started talking about doing this it was only to designate the coupes from the sedans, but now with the gran coupes , it doesn't seem to matter

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by MaestroAl

Change my beautiful F30 for a less pretty car with no headroom, poor access to the rear and eBay plastic vents glued to the side?

No taa

Might get a 3GT or a 4GC for my next car though

the side vents were so ricey....

[dd1981]

Originally Posted by s1k0ne

Leased the f30 now so that by the time i'm done, i can pick up the m4(?)

I agree, only way ill pick up a coup is if its an m4. I'm hoping that the M2 joins the M lineup, this may be my next car. For now I love the shit out of my f30.

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Word.
We need to go drive the shit out of it some more. haha.

Lets do it. I been driving mine every chance I get.

[Bmwphile]

Originally Posted by ilhan1103

i wouldn't call it an upgrade really

I would since it is going to be more expensive!

[328inGE]

from the pics Ive seen, the coupe doesnt look different enough to demand a significant price increase such as the 5 vs 6 series. I would expect an increase similar to the E9X price difference unless they do offer more HP in addition. However, I do not see them having a different engine, I believe the 3er sedan and 4er coupe will have similar engine options. The 4er may have the new I6 initially but I believe the sedan will get it as well. Wouldn't make financial sense to build this new engine and only offer it in the limited coupe segment.

[Vector Pilot]

Searching for facts. Many have said there will be a price increase for the F32, if so where did they get the info? Has BMW officially published this information? Or is this in reaction to rebadging the new models as a 4 series??