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      11-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #23
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Nope - my wife's 2011 X3 VIN starts with "5UX"
interesting... did not know that they went back to it. there was a bit of a row about in back in the day because they were violating convention. not sure when they switched back then.
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Why do you guys generally feel bad about African built cars? Is there a big difference in quality?
I doubt there is a difference. Just the fact you can say hey my car is in germany getting built instead of oh its in SA. I didn't want SA cause i heard of long shipping waits. Next BMW i get its ED 100%
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Why do you guys generally feel bad about African built cars? Is there a big difference in quality?
No difference in quality with SA built cars. My 2010 E90 MSport came from SA. Build quality is excellent. One problem in 3 years of ownership. A failed LED taillamp. That's it!

Fit and finish is excellent. Do NOT worry if you get an SA car. Only issue is leadtime for delivery.
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Per BMW this is not true: 3ers are also made in Regensburg

To the posters who claim to have Munich made cars,

1. How specifically do you know?
2. What is the 11th digit of your VIN?

Thanks.
Your car has a J in the 11th digit of the VIN so its obvious that Regensburg is building F30s. That's great, Regensburg is probably BMW's most versatile plant. Knowing that M cars come from Regensburg means there is a high level of attention to detail.
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Damn that blows i guess, I saw the order sheet and it was 133Q figured it was a german built. I guess i'll be lucky if it gets here before new years.
If the vehicle inquiry report says 133Q then your car should be a Germany build (SA builds of the 335i for US are 133T). If you are sure the 11th digit of the VIN is N then your dealer changed something on you.
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Are any F30 M Sport 335s or M3s made outside Regensburg?
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Are any F30 M Sport 335s or M3s made outside Regensburg?
My future 335i MSport rolled off the Munich "F" line on 11/8.

Its possible you ordered an option/package that pushed it to Regensburg. Or, maybe luck of the draw got you to Regensburg. No worries, its all good. Regensburg builds M cars, so maybe you'll get a souped up 335i.
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My future 335i MSport rolled off the Munich "F" line on 11/8.

Its possible you ordered an option/package that pushed it to Regensburg. Or, maybe luck of the draw got you to Regensburg. No worries, its all good. Regensburg builds M cars, so maybe you'll get a souped up 335i.
I'm looking for some kind of theory here but it seems as if they make most models in several places. The SA guys go crazy because of the ship time, but my cousin (North Carolina) had his "African 328" delivered 8 weeks after he put down a deposit! Go figure...
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^^^ sometimes they can get to a previously ordered dealer allocation and alter it before it locks.

Munich 335 here
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Per BMW this is not true: 3ers are also made in Regensburg

To the posters who claim to have Munich made cars,

1. How specifically do you know?
2. What is the 11th digit of your VIN?

Thanks.

Hahaha....I can already tell that this is going to be entertaining. I think some are going to be in for a surprise...
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I have a South African built sportline and the drivers door panel was missing red stitching. BMW was great and replaced it no questions asked.
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I have a South African built sportline and the drivers door panel was missing red stitching. BMW was great and replaced it no questions asked.
That is a supplier issue, not an assembly issue. Parts QA should be done before parts are delivered to factory floor. Same thing can happen anywhere.
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Hahaha....I can already tell that this is going to be entertaining. I think some are going to be in for a surprise...
Like what?
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I'm looking for some kind of theory here but it seems as if they make most models in several places. The SA guys go crazy because of the ship time, but my cousin (North Carolina) had his "African 328" delivered 8 weeks after he put down a deposit! Go figure...
Don't worry about it. Regensburg is the factory that builds F30 Individual orders. If they are given this honor they must have systems in place to handle order diversity. Your car is perfectly fine and a German build.

I would worry more about engineering (vibrating steering, clunks in suspension, clicking steering noises, tail lamps falling out, squealing brakes) than production location.
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Like people who think their car is built in Munich when it's not. It doesn't matter to me but some people take it so seriously like it's better which it isn't.
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Like people who think their car is built in Munich when it's not. It doesn't matter to me but some people take it so seriously like it's better which it isn't.
Got it. I hear ya. In 2010 when all I could get was an SA car, I gave it some second thoughts before I came to my senses.

As I said above, I question BMW engineering and some lingering issues b4 I question production facilities.
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Why do you guys generally feel bad about African built cars? Is there a big difference in quality?
there should be no difference in quality. the downside to an SA build is wait time. it adds up to 4 weeks to delivery time depending on where you are in the US.
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Mine says clear as day on my invoice final assy point Munich. And the 11th vin letter is indeed an F.
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Are any F30 M Sport 335s or M3s made outside Regensburg?
yes. M sport is just a package. my 2013 335i M sport is coming from munich.
very quick turn around too.
ordered 11/8 status 112
11/9 production started status 150
11/20 scheduled end of production.
should be at the dealer around the second week of december.
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Most likely not but if I can choose between SA and Germany I'd go with Germany for sure.
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