lawyers needed - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

instalher · 10-10-2012, 01:54 PM

how is it possible for a car company to not allow anyone other than a bmw tech to work on there cars? i am a mechanic and drive an 08 1 series. eveytime i due work on the car i have to take it in to get it coded.. oil change, brakes, new battery. shouldnt this be free. is this not illegal.. i can freely buy a car at any store i want. why cant i due my own maintenance? iam more than qualified and capable of doing this simple regular maintancence. it like the dealership telling us if we add an aftermarket deck to our cars it will void the warranty... they tried to due that and they got sued and lost.. maybe we can start a class action lawsuit against bmw for monoplolizing there mechanical maintenance.

ChiefBroady · 10-10-2012, 02:13 PM

You can do your own maintenance. Nothing is keeping you from that. You just can't reset the service counters without the proper tools. And if you want waranty, you have to stick to the manufacturers conditions. Most free shops should have the tools to reset the counters.

Red Bread · 10-10-2012, 02:20 PM

Maybe you do some high tech googling and realize that you can indeed reset the service indicators yourself. Or you could just buy a coding tool. Lawyers are not needed because you're inconvenienced.

chip2058 · 10-10-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Maybe you do some high tech googling and realize that you can indeed reset the service indicators yourself. Or you could just buy a coding tool. Lawyers are not needed because you're inconvenienced.

+1 it's not even that involved to reset the service meter. Not sure on the F30 but on the E90 all you had to do was hold down the odomter reset while turning the car on and it brought you into the menu.

I thought only us here in the US were sue-happy.

///Mperative · 10-10-2012, 06:09 PM

What they said. Just learn how to reset the service indicators; it's not difficult.

Also, due is not a verb; it's an adjective. Correct usage: I do my own maintenance. My taxes are due tomorrow. See the difference?

Jamesons Viggen · 10-10-2012, 06:21 PM

You can do your own coding with a $25 cable. This forum has a very detailed thread on coding.

rjc32000 · 10-10-2012, 06:29 PM

As a lawyer, I feel compelled to say that in exchange for the lion's share of the settlement, I'm happy to lead the charge! I'll wind up with a stable of R8s; you'll be lucky to get a coupon for a discounted oil change. Assuming we are successful, of course.

Unfortunately, and in all seriousness, a class action requires a pretty large number of potential plaintiffs. I kind of doubt that there are enough people suffering the indignity of doing their own oil changes and then having to get their local BMW dealer to recode the car to form a potential class. From what others are saying, you are probably better off buying the cables/tools/gizmos necessary to recode it yourself.

BMWFB02 · 10-11-2012, 01:23 AM

why would u even bother, the service is free for 50000 mls/4yrs, u can sit, enjoy a cup of coffee and check the other cars in the showroom while someone else is working on ur car

instalher · 10-11-2012, 02:58 PM

so coding my new agm bat. i just installed dosent have to go back to dealership for coding i can due it myself... ok i will look on this forum on how to due it.. thanks guys.

BavarianFanatic · 10-15-2012, 06:20 PM

Do.

MaX PL · 10-15-2012, 07:02 PM

read up on the right to repair law which is gonna be voted on in massachusetts in november, and possibly set a precedent for a federal law.
i'm trying to post the autoblog article i read a few days ago but cant find it.
anyway, it'll basically allow you to do everything youre asking for.

edit:

this is an older article about it.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/11/r...are-data-with/

the story i read a few days ago must have been from another source.

BavarianFanatic · 10-15-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaX PL

read up on the right to repair law which is gonna be voted on in massachusetts in november, and possibly set a precedent for a federal law.
i'm trying to post the autoblog article i read a few days ago but cant find it.
anyway, it'll basically allow you to do everything youre asking for.

edit:

this is an older article about it.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/11/r...are-data-with/

the story i read a few days ago must have been from another source.

OP is in Canada...

MaX PL · 10-15-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BavarianFanatic

OP is in Canada...

oh well figures...

canadians are always bitching about something.

10-10-2012, 01:54 PM	#1
instalher Private Drives: 08 128i convert Join Date: May 2011 Location: okotoks ab Posts: 69 iTrader: (1)	lawyers needed how is it possible for a car company to not allow anyone other than a bmw tech to work on there cars? i am a mechanic and drive an 08 1 series. eveytime i due work on the car i have to take it in to get it coded.. oil change, brakes, new battery. shouldnt this be free. is this not illegal.. i can freely buy a car at any store i want. why cant i due my own maintenance? iam more than qualified and capable of doing this simple regular maintancence. it like the dealership telling us if we add an aftermarket deck to our cars it will void the warranty... they tried to due that and they got sued and lost.. maybe we can start a class action lawsuit against bmw for monoplolizing there mechanical maintenance.
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ChiefBroady Private Drives: 2013 328i M sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 74 iTrader: (0)	You can do your own maintenance. Nothing is keeping you from that. You just can't reset the service counters without the proper tools. And if you want waranty, you have to stick to the manufacturers conditions. Most free shops should have the tools to reset the counters. __________________ 2013 328i M-Sport, EB2, DHP, Adaptive Xenon, CA and some other stuff.

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Red Bread Colonel Drives: My wife's car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,919 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X1 35i [0.00] 2009 Schwinn Madison [0.00]	Maybe you do some high tech googling and realize that you can indeed reset the service indicators yourself. Or you could just buy a coding tool. Lawyers are not needed because you're inconvenienced.

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///Mperative Second Lieutenant Drives: like grandma Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New England Posts: 233 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 E92 M3 [0.00]	What they said. Just learn how to reset the service indicators; it's not difficult. Also, due is not a verb; it's an adjective. Correct usage: I do my own maintenance. My taxes are due tomorrow. See the difference?

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rjc32000 Second Lieutenant Drives: 2013 M Sport X Drive Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Alaska Posts: 257 iTrader: (0)	As a lawyer, I feel compelled to say that in exchange for the lion's share of the settlement, I'm happy to lead the charge! I'll wind up with a stable of R8s; you'll be lucky to get a coupon for a discounted oil change. Assuming we are successful, of course. Unfortunately, and in all seriousness, a class action requires a pretty large number of potential plaintiffs. I kind of doubt that there are enough people suffering the indignity of doing their own oil changes and then having to get their local BMW dealer to recode the car to form a potential class. From what others are saying, you are probably better off buying the cables/tools/gizmos necessary to recode it yourself.

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instalher Private Drives: 08 128i convert Join Date: May 2011 Location: okotoks ab Posts: 69 iTrader: (1)	so coding my new agm bat. i just installed dosent have to go back to dealership for coding i can due it myself... ok i will look on this forum on how to due it.. thanks guys.

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BavarianFanatic Too much is never enough Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 718 iTrader: (0)	Do.

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MaX PL Private First Class Drives: Yota Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 177 iTrader: (0)	read up on the right to repair law which is gonna be voted on in massachusetts in november, and possibly set a precedent for a federal law. i'm trying to post the autoblog article i read a few days ago but cant find it. anyway, it'll basically allow you to do everything youre asking for. edit: this is an older article about it. http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/11/r...are-data-with/ the story i read a few days ago must have been from another source.