[auggiem3]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

To prepare for this inevitability. The BMW Motorsport division are spending a lot of time with the M3 prototypes in chance of the next M3 Sedan being BMW's next DTM car.
Rumours in Munich point to a race prepared launch livery M3 DTM appearing on stage @ IAA Frankfurt , September along with the production car.


If you like BMW miniatures then there is a lot more being introduced over the coming few months. The BMW 6er Gran Coupe available in both 1/43 and 1/18 in Alpine White , Black Sapphire and Frozen Bronze metallic.
The BMW M6 Cabrio in Silverstone II , Sakhir Orange and San Marino Blue.
The BMW M6 Coupe in Alpine White , San Marino Blue and Sakhir Orange.
And the all new BMW 3er Sedan and Touring in both 1/43 and 1/18 format. And example of the BMW M3 DTM car in 1/43 and 1/18.
If you like your MINI's there is the Coupe , Roadster and upcoming MINI Countryman Coupe in Starlight Blue 1/43.

BMW 3er Sedan F30 (335i Sport Line) also available in Black Sapphire and Alpine White.

Hey Scott, thanks for the update. Any word on the 1/43 F10 M5 release dates?

I was at Goodwood earlier this month, where the 1M could be found last year in 1/43 scale before it was available elsewhere, and the folks at the BMW exhibit didn't have any info on the release of the M5 other than the already out 1/18.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by auggiem3

Hey Scott, thanks for the update. Any word on the 1/43 F10 M5 release dates?

I was at Goodwood earlier this month, where the 1M could be found last year in 1/43 scale before it was available elsewhere, and the folks at the BMW exhibit didn't have any info on the release of the M5 other than the already out 1/18.

If I'm not mistaken I already saw it few weeks ago at my dealership in the shop, along with the 1:18 model. Both in a darkgreyish colour as I recall

Cheers
robin

[auggiem3]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

If I'm not mistaken I already saw it few weeks ago at my dealership in the shop, along with the 1:18 model. Both in a darkgreyish colour as I recall

Cheers
robin

Thanks Robin - the F10 M5 will be out in blue (monte carlo, maybe?) and silverstone metallic II (the light silver/blue color) in both the 1/43 and 1/18 scales.

I've got a 1/18 scale in silverstone - - but haven't seen a 1/43 at bmw-shop.com, dealerships or on Ebay Worldwide so I'm guessing it hasn't been released.

[bimmerjph]

Personally I refuse to believe it until I see a 4 on the back of a BMW, but thats just me.

[kv12]

I know for sure it will be called the 4 Series.

[DrivenByE30]

Here is a few questions i am not able to answer myself...


Will the 4 series be a better 3 series than the 3 series itself ?
Does the model rename induce the 4 series to be a better car than the 3 series ?
or will the 4 series become a better car than the 3 series because it's no longer called the 3 coupe?

Whatever the intention BMW had with this "logical" realignment of naming...

Will you guys continue to think of the 4 series to be still a 3 series in coupe version ?

Personally, i am having a lot of trouble

i know it's just a name, but 3 is just mythic...
and the coupe gave it a lot more prestige and desirability...

Now that the coupe has gone on to acquire a new name and new identity...

it's like Paul McCartney leaving the Beatles...

will the 3 series become just another sedan in the ocean pool of upcoming koreans, and ever changing identity-less japanese 4 doors... ??

There is no doubt in my mind the brand new chapter for the new 3 series coupe >>> 4 series has a bright shining future .... i see already!

I am just sad that our desirability for the 3 will be moved to the 4, leaving the 3 for Camry owners who have upgraded their rides....

tears....

[bnombe]

I will just call it the F82M but I do hope they badge it M3 regardless of badging the non-M F82 4-series

[Rossifumi]

Originally Posted by MrClean335i

This is absolutely incorrect. By DTM rules the cars have to be based on production coupes. The M3 Sedan wont be appearing in DTM.

Audi was racing the A4 2004-2011. MB raced the C-Class.
Is there new rules from 2012?

[ALPINA B5]

Originally Posted by Remonster

NO! Those are the best, I hate the old fashion indicator stalks on other cars.

As for the naming, 4 series does make sense considering the rest of BMW's line up but I understand the importance of the history behind the 3 series and M3 names. I don't particularly care either way, my next car will very likely be an F32 coupe whether they call it the 3 or 4 series.

lol not in my country for both of them. i do not like them so much i've resorted to not using the indicators whenever possible haha.

am seriously considering a 4 series coupe too. am hoping they make it really sleek as the f30 imo looks a bit frumpy. though im probably gonna remove the model designation badge.

[MrClean335i]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

Audi was racing the A4 2004-2011. MB raced the C-Class.
Is there new rules from 2012?

Yes, rules are vastly different for 2012. Its a new era for DTM

[ts61gogo]

IMO there is no reason to get upset because of the name change.

The M3 will remain as sedan while the 4-series (that's what they should have called it from the beginning) will be the M4 Coupe. It makes more sense and it does not sound weird at all.
Forget about tradition and so on. People will talk about the M4 in 30 years just like we do now about the M3. They won't forget the M3 coupe, in contrast, that beautiful car will always be the father of all M-cars in everyone's mind. This step will even make the M3 more legendary while possibly creating another legend - the M4.

[Xelloss]

Originally Posted by bimmerjph

Personally I refuse to believe it until I see a 4 on the back of a BMW, but thats just me.

+1

[US///M3]

Originally Posted by S3RI35

...or they may add 4M to the list of permutations that they've been racking up lately. Who knows?

Thank God! 3M (Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing) is already taken.

We can always rebadge the M4 with an M3 badge.

[DMafia46]

EVERYONE CALM DOWN. What if they named the 4series because maybe its no longer it the sports sedan/coupe it used to be. Maybe they are going back to drawing boards and going back to the enthusiasts which want a proper M3. E30, E36, E46,(E90/E92)... Its a weird pattern that every other generation they go full balls out with their engineering. E30,E46. The last of the "M"ness of the 3 series after that the E90 has gotten bigger and softer, dont even get me started on the F30. So bigger car losing the 3series ness its too big to be a 3 so why not just call it a 4 and maybe in a year or two release a true M3.

*if this doesnt make sense ill edit it later

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by MrClean335i

This is absolutely incorrect. By DTM rules the cars have to be based on production coupes. The M3 Sedan wont be appearing in DTM.

I don't know anything about the DTM rules or regulations but what is wrong with BMW changing the DTM car into an M4 DTM? I mean it could be BMW reinventing their name after the DTM M3, and call it a DTM M4. that way they start a new page with a new name but with the experience that they gain having raced under the M3 name. off course they have to come on stronger this time for this new name to stick..

then again i don't know shit about DTM rules and regulations

[anskwong]

Is it going to be 1:43 version? I notice they don't make the new M5 in 1:43, which is pretty disappointed. I hope some other companies may consider to make that because M5 is a very nice model.

[midnight express]

heres the solution... f80 m3 sedan/f82 m4 coupe - triple/twin turbo 6. f82 m3 coupe - naturally aspirated v8 that redlines at 8

[jsedlak]

Can't wait for the F30 335Ti Shortsedan...

You know... kind of like a 2dr version of the sedan...

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

To prepare for this inevitability. The BMW Motorsport division are spending a lot of time with the M3 prototypes in chance of the next M3 Sedan being BMW's next DTM car.
Rumours in Munich point to a race prepared launch livery M3 DTM appearing on stage @ IAA Frankfurt , September along with the production car.


If you like BMW miniatures then there is a lot more being introduced over the coming few months. The BMW 6er Gran Coupe available in both 1/43 and 1/18 in Alpine White , Black Sapphire and Frozen Bronze metallic.
The BMW M6 Cabrio in Silverstone II , Sakhir Orange and San Marino Blue.
The BMW M6 Coupe in Alpine White , San Marino Blue and Sakhir Orange.
And the all new BMW 3er Sedan and Touring in both 1/43 and 1/18 format. And example of the BMW M3 DTM car in 1/43 and 1/18.
If you like your MINI's there is the Coupe , Roadster and upcoming MINI Countryman Coupe in Starlight Blue 1/43.

BMW 3er Sedan F30 (335i Sport Line) also available in Black Sapphire and Alpine White.

Problem is, I have yet to see EBII/M-Sport versions in either 1/18 or 1/43.