Left my car running!?!?! - Page 3 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

ric124 · 06-27-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

I'm pretty god damn certain the engine was off when I got out. The 328i is quiet, but not THAT quiet. I walked past the front of it too so I would've definitely heard it. I'm 100% that engine was ASS-ed off when I got out! :P

Are you able to replicate? If car is in ready mode and you open the door what happens?

SomeRandomer123 · 06-27-2012, 04:58 PM

It goes to Off... The evidence isn't stacking up is it!

Hmm...

ric124 · 06-27-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

It goes to Off... The evidence isn't stacking up is it!

Hmm...

Hmmm...Nope

Think I have to stick with my original theory. You left engine on and locked the doors without realizing it. Dont worry it happens.

The other day I left all my windows down and I didn't realize till the next day. oh well

jwickers · 06-27-2012, 09:28 PM

Don't you have an alert chime when you the driver door is open while the engine is not fully off ? i have this on my current car and never forget to shut it off before getting off.

svache · 06-27-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

I'm pretty god damn certain the engine was off when I got out. The 328i is quiet, but not THAT quiet. I walked past the front of it too so I would've definitely heard it. I'm 100% that engine was ASS-ed off when I got out! :P

We all grow older, you know

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwickers

Don't you have an alert chime when you the driver door is open while the engine is not fully off ? i have this on my current car and never forget to shut it off before getting off.

It is there but not very consequent imho.. today when I left the car running (on purpose lol), it did go off.. other days it doesn't lol

jwickers · 06-27-2012, 09:54 PM

Actually mine is the key still in the ignition chime, not related to the engine status. But that's how i'd expect it to work here.
Maybe the car is possessed ..

ric124 · 06-28-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by svache

It is there but not very consequent imho.. today when I left the car running (on purpose lol), it did go off.. other days it doesn't lol

Plus it still goes off even when engine is off but car is on. I think most of us leaves the car while its on (ACC) and engine off ignore the chimes and arm on look back (damn she is sexy) press lock button.

Flakey99 · 07-08-2012, 02:29 PM

I've had the same thing happen to me. Pulled into supermarket parking bay. A.S.S kicked in. Put it in P, got out and locked the car. The radio turned off when the car locked as usual. So I thought nothing of it.
I returned about 40 minutes later to find the engine running! I've not managed to replicate the fault, but normally the needle goes from ready to off as soon as you open the car door. Very strange.
Mine was delivered to me in early Feb so was probably one of the first in the UK.

320d luxury with sport automatic.

mikikuki7 · 07-08-2012, 03:01 PM

That happened to me once the first week I got it.

Went to Lowes and the car turned off! someone I locked, it beeped and my family and I went inside! It took about an hour and half, when we went outside and opened the trunk I didn't head the car on, but I saw the Navi on from behind, we went in and the car was freaking cold! LOL, but yes, I was very upset and I don't know how the car turned on by itself...

That was really weird.. anyone could have taken it for a spin... oh and yes, the car was unlocked!!!

icewraithuk · 07-17-2012, 05:56 AM

FWIW, this happened to me this last weekend - car fully locked, mirrors folded, key inside with me and neighbour came over to say my car was running, which it was. Found this thread which made me glad as obviously it's not just my car. Then came in to work this morning and parked up next to another 320d ED and guess what - it was running, fully locked up as well. I've attached some photos I took of it, you can clearly see it's all locked up and yet idling away.

I suspect the diagnosis on here is correct - you pull up and ASS turns of the engine, you may or may not push the stop button (I normally do to make sure the audio, etc is off) but it doesn't actually deactivate. Then it starts the car again later to circulate air, etc. Major failing of the system to not re-detect the key or the lock state of the car...

SomeRandomer123 · 07-17-2012, 08:53 AM

^^ Wow! Whatever I do, I cannot replicate the problem!

adelphi_sky · 07-17-2012, 09:53 AM

Seems kind of counter-intuitive in saving gas if your car cuts on when not occupied. All that gas "saved" stopping and starting is wiped out when this happens. Nice stab at fuel efficiency BMW. But try again.

Aritaurus · 07-17-2012, 11:26 AM

That has happened to me before but a warning will show up on the instrument cluster saying "Warning! Ignition is still on!" and it will have the Auto Start Stop icon there.

I'm surprised you didn't get this warning when you opened the door. Maybe it's a European F30 thing.

xDrive35i · 07-17-2012, 04:27 PM

I was told that with comfort access or keyless start, if someone steals your BMW while it's running and you have the key, the car will power down and lock out the thief from accessing any of the electronics after it's been driven 50 feet from the key.

ric124 · 07-17-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by juddholland

I was told that with comfort access or keyless start, if someone steals your BMW while it's running and you have the key, the car will power down and lock out the thief from accessing any of the electronics after it's been driven 50 feet from the key.

There is a thread where a guys wife drove to the supermarket without the key

ric124 · 07-17-2012, 04:48 PM

I wonder if its an issue with cars made for the UK?

raleedy · 07-17-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

Ahh yes, just opened my car's manual and seen this. Yep the Safety Function has failed.
Page 59 in the UK one.

Maybe not. It literally says "driver's door open" in the first condition (which is really a combination of two conditions involving the seat belt and the driver's door). In your case, you closed the driver's door again. You've been punk'd. (I realize this might not be so funny if the car runs in a closed, attached garage, spreading CO into someone's house.)

raleedy · 07-17-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by juddholland

I was told that with comfort access or keyless start, if someone steals your BMW while it's running and you have the key, the car will power down and lock out the thief from accessing any of the electronics after it's been driven 50 feet from the key.

Utter nonsense. There is no electronic detection system for thieves. Once started, the car will run as far and as long without the key inside as the fuel holds out.

raleedy · 07-17-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Flakey99

I normally the needle goes from ready to off as soon as you open the car door.

320d luxury with sport automatic.

When that happens, get out, close the door and lock it, and then peek inside to see whether the state is "off" or "ready" with the door closed and locked.

RPM90 · 07-17-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by raleedy

When that happens, get out, close the door and lock it, and then peek inside to see whether the state is "off" or "ready" with the door closed and locked.

So convenient and "comforting".

One day I'll bet they'll be able to create an opening where the fob sits in.
That way we'll know when the fob is in the car. Connect the fob to a system, like, turning the fob to start the car and turn the other way to stop it, then remove the fob and you know the car is OFF.
Put the fob in your pocket, then the car can't be started without it.
They can call it a "key", just like the key that opens and locks door, cabinets, etc...

But, I'm sure they will charge extra for that, and/or include it in a "premium pkg."

Spikey · 07-17-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RPM90

One day I'll bet they'll be able to create an opening where the fob sits in.
That way we'll know when the fob is in the car. Connect the fob to a system, like, turning the fob to start the car and turn the other way to stop it, then remove the fob and you know the car is OFF.
Put the fob in your pocket, then the car can't be started without it.
They can call it a "key", just like the key that opens and locks door, cabinets, etc...

But, I'm sure they will charge extra for that, and/or include it in a "premium pkg."

priceless... true story too... lol

dbpe · 07-17-2012, 10:01 PM

This is a lot more serious than most seem to be seeing it. Someone observed a page back that the CO from a running car in your garage could kill you. That very thing killed our neighbors when I was growing up - brand new car that started "dieseling" after they closed the garage door and went to bed. Both dead the next morning. This needs to be ABSOLUTELY addressed by BMW. I'm calling customer service first thing in the morning. This is as big a deal as "my car occasionally bursts into flames and squirts gasoline on the walls from the headlight washers".

06-27-2012, 04:58 PM	#46
SomeRandomer123 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 328i Luxury - Sport Auto Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lancashire, North West England, UK Posts: 1,941 iTrader: (0)	It goes to Off... The evidence isn't stacking up is it! Hmm... __________________ Gone: 2006 BMW E60 520d SE 6MT Gone: 2009 BMW E90-LCI 330d SE 6MT - Awesome! 28th May 2009 - 28th May 2012 Current: 2012 F30 328i Luxury 8AT - Loving it! My 328i thread!http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712673

07-17-2012, 05:56 AM	#54
icewraithuk New Member Drives: F30 320d ED Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	Now with pictures FWIW, this happened to me this last weekend - car fully locked, mirrors folded, key inside with me and neighbour came over to say my car was running, which it was. Found this thread which made me glad as obviously it's not just my car. Then came in to work this morning and parked up next to another 320d ED and guess what - it was running, fully locked up as well. I've attached some photos I took of it, you can clearly see it's all locked up and yet idling away. I suspect the diagnosis on here is correct - you pull up and ASS turns of the engine, you may or may not push the stop button (I normally do to make sure the audio, etc is off) but it doesn't actually deactivate. Then it starts the car again later to circulate air, etc. Major failing of the system to not re-detect the key or the lock state of the car...

07-17-2012, 08:53 AM	#55
SomeRandomer123 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 328i Luxury - Sport Auto Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lancashire, North West England, UK Posts: 1,941 iTrader: (0)	^^ Wow! Whatever I do, I cannot replicate the problem! __________________ Gone: 2006 BMW E60 520d SE 6MT Gone: 2009 BMW E90-LCI 330d SE 6MT - Awesome! 28th May 2009 - 28th May 2012 Current: 2012 F30 328i Luxury 8AT - Loving it! My 328i thread!http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712673

07-17-2012, 09:53 AM	#56
adelphi_sky First Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW 328i Jet Black Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Adelphi, MD Posts: 374 iTrader: (0)	Seems kind of counter-intuitive in saving gas if your car cuts on when not occupied. All that gas "saved" stopping and starting is wiped out when this happens. Nice stab at fuel efficiency BMW. But try again. __________________ ------------------------------------ 2013 328i M-Sport PCD / Estoril Blue II / Aluminum Hex Trim / Estoril Blue Matt / Black Leather / Tech Pkg / HK / Alarm / Xenons Current Status: She's Home!

07-17-2012, 04:27 PM	#58
xDrive35i Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 X3 35i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,503 iTrader: (0)	I was told that with comfort access or keyless start, if someone steals your BMW while it's running and you have the key, the car will power down and lock out the thief from accessing any of the electronics after it's been driven 50 feet from the key. __________________ 2001 Audi A6 Allroad 2.7T (C5); 2005 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro (C6); 2005 BMW X5 4.4i (E53); 2008 BMW 535xi Sports Wagon (E61); 2011 BMW X3 xDrive35i (F25); 2009 Audi A4 3.2 Quattro Prestige (B8)

06-27-2012, 09:28 PM	#48
jwickers Second Lieutenant Drives: Buick Regal Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Shanghai - China Posts: 211 iTrader: (0)	Don't you have an alert chime when you the driver door is open while the engine is not fully off ? i have this on my current car and never forget to shut it off before getting off.

06-27-2012, 09:54 PM	#50
jwickers Second Lieutenant Drives: Buick Regal Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Shanghai - China Posts: 211 iTrader: (0)	Actually mine is the key still in the ignition chime, not related to the engine status. But that's how i'd expect it to work here. Maybe the car is possessed ..

07-08-2012, 02:29 PM	#52
Flakey99 Registered Drives: 320d Luxury auto Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Merseyside Posts: 3 iTrader: (0)	I've had the same thing happen to me. Pulled into supermarket parking bay. A.S.S kicked in. Put it in P, got out and locked the car. The radio turned off when the car locked as usual. So I thought nothing of it. I returned about 40 minutes later to find the engine running! I've not managed to replicate the fault, but normally the needle goes from ready to off as soon as you open the car door. Very strange. Mine was delivered to me in early Feb so was probably one of the first in the UK. 320d luxury with sport automatic.

07-08-2012, 03:01 PM	#53
mikikuki7 Private First Class Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Melbourne Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: McAllen, TX Posts: 129 iTrader: (0)	That happened to me once the first week I got it. Went to Lowes and the car turned off! someone I locked, it beeped and my family and I went inside! It took about an hour and half, when we went outside and opened the trunk I didn't head the car on, but I saw the Navi on from behind, we went in and the car was freaking cold! LOL, but yes, I was very upset and I don't know how the car turned on by itself... That was really weird.. anyone could have taken it for a spin... oh and yes, the car was unlocked!!!

07-17-2012, 11:26 AM	#57
Aritaurus Second Lieutenant Drives: 2012 328i luxury line Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 292 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 328i Luxury Line [5.00]	That has happened to me before but a warning will show up on the instrument cluster saying "Warning! Ignition is still on!" and it will have the Auto Start Stop icon there. I'm surprised you didn't get this warning when you opened the door. Maybe it's a European F30 thing.

07-17-2012, 04:48 PM	#60
ric124 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 335i SP 6MT Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,528 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 335i Sport [5.00] 2012 Trek Mamba 29er [0.00]	I wonder if its an issue with cars made for the UK? __________________ Timeline: 335i Sport W/ Adaptive M suspension\| Sport Variable steering\| Technology PKG\| HK Sound PKG\| BMW apps\| BMW Assist\| Sport line hand brake grip\| M Performance black kidneys\|

07-17-2012, 10:01 PM	#66
dbpe Private Drives: 2013 335xi M Sport Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: PA Posts: 57 iTrader: (0)	This is a lot more serious than most seem to be seeing it. Someone observed a page back that the CO from a running car in your garage could kill you. That very thing killed our neighbors when I was growing up - brand new car that started "dieseling" after they closed the garage door and went to bed. Both dead the next morning. This needs to be ABSOLUTELY addressed by BMW. I'm calling customer service first thing in the morning. This is as big a deal as "my car occasionally bursts into flames and squirts gasoline on the walls from the headlight washers".

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