Ordering First BMW Ever need help :) - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

Jalva025dmd · 07-12-2012, 05:38 PM

Hey guys I am planning on ordering my first ever car, a 2013 BMW 335i. Now i want to put the options i would like on the car and i know its probably going to be built and then delivered to dealer because of specifications i want. I have some questions. when i do go to the dealer and order the car can I negotiate the price of the car before it is built because i don't want to get ripped off just because its going to be built ? Secondly how long does it take for the car to be built and delivered?

robin147 · 07-12-2012, 05:53 PM

Only one suggestion. Take the HUD! It is awesome.

Jalva025dmd · 07-12-2012, 05:56 PM

HUD?

PhiTauFord · 07-12-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jalva025dmd

HUD?

Heads Up Display

F30SD · 07-12-2012, 06:12 PM

Heads Up Display, It is amazing.
Beat me to it.

Jalva025dmd · 07-12-2012, 06:19 PM

Yea its really good. Can i negotiate the price at the dealer?

NGuyadeen · 07-12-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jalva025dmd

Yea its really good. Can i negotiate the price at the dealer?

Of course you negotiate the hell out of them! but since you have not owned a Bimmer before you dont have the prestige badge that lets you go down more in price.

Edmunds has a great guide on how to negotiate a fair price.

Tips: Don't dress extravagant ie: expensive watch,shoes, etc.. it shows you have money and they charge more.

Get the HUD Display its simply amazing!!

Good Luck, Please post when you order

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Jalva025dmd · 07-12-2012, 07:09 PM

THanks guys.

Yea i want to negotiate the price to a reasonable price i have seen online on edmunds that you can. Cant wait. how long after you order does it take to get to the dealer.

PhiTauFord · 07-12-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jalva025dmd

THanks guys.

Yea i want to negotiate the price to a reasonable price i have seen online on edmunds that you can. Cant wait. how long after you order does it take to get to the dealer.

The wait is going to vary depending on many factors. You'll want to read some threads in the ordering section of the forum to get an idea.

You want to make sure your dealer has a production number for your order. Placing an order with the dealer doesn't get you much of anything without a production number.

I also recommend confirming you have a Munich production number. South Africa builds seem to take longer.

I placed my order (with production number) on 6/7. Today my status updated to indicate my car is headed to port in Bremerhaven to make the trip to NJ. I figure I still have another 4ish weeks to go.

Hope that helps.

mocohead · 07-13-2012, 08:34 AM

When you go to the dealer, I recommend dealing with the fleet manager. Those folks are usually more up front than the floor sales folks. The other way to approach these negotiations is to send emails to every BMW dealership within a xxx mile radius (being determined by how far you are willing to travel to pick it up) specifying what you want and asking for an offer. When you find the two lowest offers, play those against each other until one drops out. If any dealer refuses to make an offer in writing, pass on them. What you want is to find somebody who puts the cards on the table and offers an honest deal.

Also please remember that you can order from anywhere in the USA. The dealership from which you purchase your car can always arrange a courtesy delivery with a dealership in your area. The only possible down side is if the local dealership gets pissy and says they won't give you a loaner car because you didn't buy from them. I wouldn't ask that in advance though unless that is a deal breaker for you.

Expect it to take 6-10 weeks from the time of order to delivery. The factory closes in August so your car would not be built until September. Patience is the name of the game...

Good luck and enjoy!

rconti · 07-13-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NGuyadeen

but since you have not owned a Bimmer before you dont have the prestige badge that lets you go down more in price.

What?

NGuyadeen · 07-13-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rconti

What?

Sounds stupid its like Loyalty Program my Step brother worked at BMW Dealer and the manager use to tell him to make better negotiation to repeat buyers

Jalva025dmd · 07-13-2012, 11:13 AM

Thanks for the advice really appreciated. I might purchase the car in Miami because i have a friend that knows a fleet manager. Then i will have the car shipped over to Philadelphia where i work. Thanks guys

JS_F30 · 07-13-2012, 12:38 PM

I live in LA and I ordered mine on 3/29/2012. And still waiting...

335i will take a bit long, but it depends on your CA at the dealership

ZMM_OMG · 07-13-2012, 01:00 PM

I'd recommend the following:

-- Build your car on bmwconfig.com. It will give you the MSRP and invoice pricing for your exact configuration.

-- Determine how much you're willing to pay over the INVOICE price. Folks around the boards seem to be getting deals ranging from 500 - 1000 over invoice.

-- Remember to add applicable fees, such as MACO (advertising fee), training fee, license and registration fees, and any applicable dealer/documentation fees. If you're unfamiliar with these fees, search here for more details

-- Create a full price sheet detailing your exact build and invoice price, fees, and how much you're willing to pay over that (dealer profit) and submit it to several dealers. You can either do this via e-mail (dealer's internet manager) or in person. There are advantages/disadvantages to both.

-- Ask the dealer to verify that they have a production allocation to give you for the car you order. Your deal may not be much good if they accept your price but don't have an actual allocation spot for BMW to build it. For example, 335 production allocations seemed to be tight for awhile.

Order the car and begin the painful waiting process. As others have mentioned, it'll take between 6 - 8 weeks.

Enjoy!

07-12-2012, 05:38 PM	#1
Jalva025dmd New Member Drives: Future 335i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	Ordering First BMW Ever need help :) Hey guys I am planning on ordering my first ever car, a 2013 BMW 335i. Now i want to put the options i would like on the car and i know its probably going to be built and then delivered to dealer because of specifications i want. I have some questions. when i do go to the dealer and order the car can I negotiate the price of the car before it is built because i don't want to get ripped off just because its going to be built ? Secondly how long does it take for the car to be built and delivered?
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07-12-2012, 05:53 PM	#2
robin147 Enlisted Member Drives: F30 320ia Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 42 iTrader: (0)	Only one suggestion. Take the HUD! It is awesome.

07-12-2012, 05:56 PM	#3
Jalva025dmd New Member Drives: Future 335i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	HUD?

07-12-2012, 06:12 PM	#5
F30SD Private Drives: Waiting on 335i MG Sportline Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 95 iTrader: (0)	Heads Up Display, It is amazing. Beat me to it.

07-12-2012, 06:19 PM	#6
Jalva025dmd New Member Drives: Future 335i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	Yea its really good. Can i negotiate the price at the dealer?

07-12-2012, 07:09 PM	#8
Jalva025dmd New Member Drives: Future 335i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	THanks guys. Yea i want to negotiate the price to a reasonable price i have seen online on edmunds that you can. Cant wait. how long after you order does it take to get to the dealer.

07-13-2012, 08:34 AM	#10
mocohead Second Lieutenant Drives: 2012 328i (ED)/ 2011 328i (ED) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CA Posts: 297 iTrader: (0)	When you go to the dealer, I recommend dealing with the fleet manager. Those folks are usually more up front than the floor sales folks. The other way to approach these negotiations is to send emails to every BMW dealership within a xxx mile radius (being determined by how far you are willing to travel to pick it up) specifying what you want and asking for an offer. When you find the two lowest offers, play those against each other until one drops out. If any dealer refuses to make an offer in writing, pass on them. What you want is to find somebody who puts the cards on the table and offers an honest deal. Also please remember that you can order from anywhere in the USA. The dealership from which you purchase your car can always arrange a courtesy delivery with a dealership in your area. The only possible down side is if the local dealership gets pissy and says they won't give you a loaner car because you didn't buy from them. I wouldn't ask that in advance though unless that is a deal breaker for you. Expect it to take 6-10 weeks from the time of order to delivery. The factory closes in August so your car would not be built until September. Patience is the name of the game... Good luck and enjoy!

07-13-2012, 11:13 AM	#13
Jalva025dmd New Member Drives: Future 335i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the advice really appreciated. I might purchase the car in Miami because i have a friend that knows a fleet manager. Then i will have the car shipped over to Philadelphia where i work. Thanks guys

07-13-2012, 12:38 PM	#14
JS_F30 Enlisted Member Drives: 2012 F30 335i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CA Posts: 44 iTrader: (0)	I live in LA and I ordered mine on 3/29/2012. And still waiting... 335i will take a bit long, but it depends on your CA at the dealership

07-13-2012, 01:00 PM	#15
ZMM_OMG First Lieutenant Drives: '01 325i Join Date: May 2012 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 328 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2001 BMW 325i [5.00] 2009 BMC Pro Machine [0.00]	I'd recommend the following: -- Build your car on bmwconfig.com. It will give you the MSRP and invoice pricing for your exact configuration. -- Determine how much you're willing to pay over the INVOICE price. Folks around the boards seem to be getting deals ranging from 500 - 1000 over invoice. -- Remember to add applicable fees, such as MACO (advertising fee), training fee, license and registration fees, and any applicable dealer/documentation fees. If you're unfamiliar with these fees, search here for more details -- Create a full price sheet detailing your exact build and invoice price, fees, and how much you're willing to pay over that (dealer profit) and submit it to several dealers. You can either do this via e-mail (dealer's internet manager) or in person. There are advantages/disadvantages to both. -- Ask the dealer to verify that they have a production allocation to give you for the car you order. Your deal may not be much good if they accept your price but don't have an actual allocation spot for BMW to build it. For example, 335 production allocations seemed to be tight for awhile. Order the car and begin the painful waiting process. As others have mentioned, it'll take between 6 - 8 weeks. Enjoy!