[OldArmy]

Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar

Waaaaahhhhh, I'm cranky because the economy's improving, I wanted Obama to fail, waaaahhhh.

Pssst, I'm not wanting, he's already failed. Liberal left and the right agree on this! Understand that his campaign "launch" was a little, well, under attended.

The economy is GREAT! Just ask anybody! If nobama runs a few hundred thousand more out of the workforce he'll get that pesky unemployment number back down where it was on his day one. Nothing quite like subtraction by addition.

November can't come soon enough, let America get this experiment over with.

[ScotchAndCigar]

he's already failed. Liberal left and the right agree on this!
- Why, because you say so? Wow, that's a strong argument, especially with your superlative track record. You do realize that polls say your statement is flat wrong, hmmm?

The economy is GREAT!
- I did not and would not make a stupid remark like that. But I'm perpetually amazed at how you measure unemployment from his inauguration day, as if he had magic power to instantly make the recession stop. Unemployment peaked nine months after he took office, whereas it took Saint Ronald Reagan 3 years to get it to start coming down. And he did it by nearly tripling the debt. But you knew that, right?

let America get this experiment over with.
- Gee, wonder what you mean by that?

You know, the wars are ending, economy's improving, and both will continue regardless of who's in office in January. I'm sure you don't believe that, but who cares?

[Michael5155]

S&C,

Nothing you say will enlighted these myopic conservatives. They are too stuck in the muck and mire of Old-World thinking. Hopefully their children will/have read between the right-wing propoganda lines and see the light.

If Obama brought unemployment to 0%, they (conservatives) would say there are still 12-year-olds who can't find babysitting jobs. If Obama made China a democracy, they would call it an Obamacy and not dare recognize it as a democracy. If Obama brought global warming to an end (Oops, sorry. I forgot. There is no global warming ). If Obama single-handedly found the cure for cancer, they would say he spent too much money on syringes. If Obama was born in the island state of Hawaii, conservatives would say he wasn't a U.S. citizen (Wait, that's TRUE! Conservatives do say he isn't a US citizen.) If Obama said the earth was flat... (Oops, another bad example because the conservatives would actually agree with him.)

Even though I think Reagan was among one of the worst presidents middle-class American has ever had, I do give him credit where credit is due. I do feel he played an important role in the fall of communism in E. Germany. And I do feel he opened the door for other movie stars and celebrities to enter the political arena.

Bush number one did a good job with the Iraq/Kuwait conflict. And Bush number two did a good job reading to elementary school kids.

[Team Plutonium]

[xbook]

Originally Posted by OldArmy

Pssst, I'm not wanting, he's already failed. Liberal left and the right agree on this! Understand that his campaign "launch" was a little, well, under attended.

The economy is GREAT! Just ask anybody! If nobama runs a few hundred thousand more out of the workforce he'll get that pesky unemployment number back down where it was on his day one. Nothing quite like subtraction by addition.

November can't come soon enough, let America get this experiment over with.

Oh poor propaganda guy, you are so cute. It's almost as if you never fact check anything you read, you are SO ADORABLE!!!!!! I just want grab your cheeks and squeeze 'em.

Did the thought that your precious right wing "news" has fed you a false story? This doesn't look like it was unattended to me:







You can see more here:

[OldArmy]

Charitably, it was 14,000 attending in a venue that has seats for 20,000 and probably half of that 14k was standing on the floor. Yes, underattended.

[xbook]

Originally Posted by OldArmy

Charitably, it was 14,000 attending in a venue that has seats for 20,000 and probably half of that 14k was standing on the floor. Yes, underattended.

Again, if you did your research you would learn that the arena in question holds around 14k people, and around 10k showed up. Way better than what Romney could get in his home state:

[txz4]

Originally Posted by 128vertinnoho

just worth pointing out, according to the numbers Bush W. spent about 4.9 trillion. Last time i checked 4.9 was not 42.7% of 14.3 trillion...As pointed out earlier, there has been a bigger increase in national debt under Obama than Bush, as of February.

[OldArmy]

Originally Posted by xbook

Again, if you did your research you would learn that the arena in question holds around 14k people, and around 10k showed up. Way better than what Romney could get in his home state:

Interesting that the media outlets all seem to be saying 20k. Perhaps they were smart enough to recognize that the 14k figure is for b'ball and does not include the packed floor seating and standing. Just sayin' but 10k seems pretty light to me for a universally beloved incumbent.

[OldArmy]

Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar

he's already failed. Liberal left and the right agree on this!
- Why, because you say so? Wow, that's a strong argument, especially with your superlative track record. You do realize that polls say your statement is flat wrong, hmmm?

Check Rasmussen lately?

The economy is GREAT!
- I did not and would not make a stupid remark like that.

Don't run yourself down, you often make stupid statements just like that.
But I'm perpetually amazed at how you measure unemployment from his inauguration day, as if he had magic power to instantly make the recession stop. Unemployment peaked nine months after he took office, whereas it took Saint Ronald Reagan 3 years to get it to start coming down. And he did it by nearly tripling the debt. But you knew that, right?

Is there a date when nobama becomes responsible for something? Just askin'...

let America get this experiment over with.
- Gee, wonder what you mean by that?

Careful, your lib default value kinda blew up on you with your Gadsden flag ignorance and stupidity. But to keep it simple for simple guy, I think we are done with true left liberals

You know, nobama's wars are never-ending, his economy's completely stalled out, and the misery will continue unless he's turned out of office in January.

There, I fixed it for you.

[ScotchAndCigar]

Originally Posted by txz4

just worth pointing out, according to the numbers Bush W. spent about 4.9 trillion. Last time i checked 4.9 was not 42.7% of 14.3 trillion...As pointed out earlier, there has been a bigger increase in national debt under Obama than Bush, as of February.

This chart shows the contribution by each to the total at the time, so its a bit confusing. Regardless, straight dollars don't matter, only percentages do. Reagan went from 1T to almost 3T, an increase of 186% (per my previously posted chart). Obama is currently at around half the percentage of W Bush, but again, that's mostly due to the ongoing Bush debts.

[ScotchAndCigar]

Originally Posted by OldArmy

There, I fixed it for you.

So very pathetic...... Do the put-downs and name-calling make you feel better? What torture it must be to live a life where you just cannot tolerate those who don't share your irrational hate. I must be stupid, yet in the real world you wouldn't have a job without me.

I have absolutely no expectation that I'll ever change the thinking of the narrow-minded and ignorant; but one should be able to express an opinion or argue a fact without being abused by some head-case.

[OldArmy]

Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar

I must be stupid, yet in the real world you wouldn't have a job without me.

My job for three decades was protecting sheltered pseudo intellectuals like you. It's really more like you wouldn't have anything at all without me.

I have absolutely no expectation that I'll ever change the thinking of the narrow-minded and ignorant; but one should be able to express an opinion or argue a fact without being abused by some head-case.

Preachy and sad. You like to dole it out but can't take it. Grow up.

[txz4]

Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar

This chart shows the contribution by each to the total at the time, so its a bit confusing. Regardless, straight dollars don't matter, only percentages do. Reagan went from 1T to almost 3T, an increase of 186% (per my previously posted chart). Obama is currently at around half the percentage of W Bush, but again, that's mostly due to the ongoing Bush debts.

percentages are the only thing that matter? I havent question your credentials at anytime before now, but really? you do realize its our amount of debt and seeming disinterest in ever paying it back thats causing our problems....Basic Finance 101 type stuff. according to your interpretation of the chart, Reagan should have a 300% growth, alas he does not. Reason? because its a focus on Bush spending trying to play down Obamas knack for it. Its not relative to each other, its just about Bush apparently.

I dont agree with the spending Bush took part in (sheer amount) but then Obama seems to intend to show him up. It wasn't okay then at his rate, and over double the rate of Bush increases it certainly is far less then okay now.

I dont know what you do, or what you studied in school, but i gather it most certainly was not this....

Furthermore, any improvement in the economy is in spite of Obama and his policies and courtesy of the Fed, keeping interest rates down. The second politicians caught wind of the ideas behind TARP they ruined it, their own form of crony capitalism.

[mspeasl]

+1^

[mspeasl]

Originally Posted by OldArmy

Preachy and sad. You like to dole it out but can't take it. Grow up.

+1

[ScotchAndCigar]

Originally Posted by OldArmy

Preachy and sad. You like to dole it out but can't take it. Grow up.

Oh boy! Free advice from the guy who edits other people's posts. When will you realize nobody needs your assessment?

[ScotchAndCigar]

Originally Posted by txz4

I dont know what you do, or what you studied in school, but i gather it most certainly was not this....

Sadly, I do know what you studied in school, and based on your posts, it was clearly a waste of money.

[ScotchAndCigar]

Originally Posted by mspeasl

+1^

Originally Posted by mspeasl

+1

Try formulating a thought sometime. Oh, and have a nice day!

[cssnms]

Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar

When will you realize nobody needs your assessment?

This is ironic because I was going to ask you the same thing.

[MiddleAgedAl]

Originally Posted by cssnms

This is ironic because I was going to ask you the same thing.

"People who want to share their religious beliefs with you, almost never want you to share yours with them. " - Dave Berry

A very wise man, Mr. Berry is.

[txz4]

Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar

Sadly, I do know what you studied in school, and based on your posts, it was clearly a waste of money.

He said after asserting that real solid numbers are of no importance in comparison to arbitrary percentages....