F30 335i Auto Stop Start stall service bulletin (SIB TSB) - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

E90Fleet · 05-01-2012, 07:52 AM

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Auto Start-Stop Fix:

BMW has released software to fix any of the early 335i F30 that had a problem where the engine sometimes stalled after the Auto Stop/Start system tried to restart. Problem was a calibration error. BMW cites an unfavorable DME software application as the source of the issue. It affects cars produced from 11/2/2011 to 2/29/2012.

USA members, refer your dealer to "SIB 12 06 12" (Service bulletin 10 12 00 09 00)

Cars built from March 2012 on should not have these problems.

Headrest Fix:
EDIT: Sorry, there was a typo on the list, this is another fix, not the one for headrests not going low enough

arnsbrae · 05-01-2012, 09:20 AM

BMW if you are reading, I need a job

You're already doing a great job for BMW - they just need to start paying you now!

Anyway, thanks for all your helpful input!

1.fresh.f30.335 · 05-01-2012, 09:25 AM

Can we get a BMW liaison who just does this for a job? Because this was very helpful even though I haven't picked up my car from the dealer yet so it won't have these issues... thanks for lookin' out!

ric124 · 05-01-2012, 10:22 AM

Good find, I look forward to your updates. Right now im just happy that I have a April build

ATX78703 · 05-01-2012, 10:31 AM

Cheers to all those who ordered MY 2012 F30... Taking one for the team, so to speak.

ATS · 05-01-2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benzo23

So not only is the F30 ugly as sin but its already having problems lol...pass

Every new model has problems regardless of the brand. If you want to be among the first to own it, then that's the price you have to pay.

ric124 · 05-01-2012, 10:48 AM

Every car has issues in the first few years of the model. The best model year to buy is the final year where most or all kinks have been worked out but nobody wants to buy the final year because after a year you feel that your new car is now out dated.

E90Fleet · 05-01-2012, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.fresh.f30.335

Can we get a BMW liaison who just does this for a job? Because this was very helpful even though I haven't picked up my car from the dealer yet so it won't have these issues... thanks for lookin' out!

If BMW USA wants to give me a green card I will do the job.

Greenkirby21 · 05-01-2012, 11:02 AM

ooo interesting. my mom has the new 335i and she told me it kept on turning off the engine. She took it to dealership and got it back yesterday.

BigKutta · 05-01-2012, 11:09 AM

Thanks E90Fleet. Could you tell me where you found this out? The head rest issue exists with the F10 and I would like to know what the fix would be.

E90Fleet · 05-01-2012, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Thanks E90Fleet. Could you tell me where you found this out? The head rest issue exists with the F10 and I would like to know what the fix would be.

Sorry, the headrest fix i received had a typo, its not for the minimum setting problem, but for a maximum setting problem.

If I find something for the F10 I will let you know

jzcrna · 05-01-2012, 11:30 AM

This sucks. Although the occasional stalling does not bother me my wife is borrowing my car this weekend because I will be using her van out of town and she is going to freak if it stalls. These updates also can take forever.

Has anyone done this update and how long has it taken?

Thanks.

Frosty · 05-01-2012, 11:32 AM

Auto Stall ha!

Diver · 05-01-2012, 12:10 PM

I am a bit leery of start stop. At least there is a button to turn it off.

E90Fleet · 05-01-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzcrna

Has anyone done this update and how long has it taken?

Thanks.

It depends how many modules on the car dont have the latest software.

They cannot just load the latest engine software, the system automatically looks for any module on the car with old software and updates it.

BMWI6 · 05-01-2012, 01:34 PM

Manufacturers always brag about the millions of hours of testing that go into these cars, so I dont understand how these issues dont come up while they are testing the cars. I can understand long term issues or some other rarities, but a car stalling should be very evident at the testing stage.

Wedge1967 · 05-01-2012, 01:49 PM

Microsoft of the car world. Driving down the parkway and the car reboots for no reason.

Although I can relate to this in some ways. The code goes through many revisions and I have seen minor code changes causes dependancy code to fail. It happens. The price we pay for high tech autos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWI6

Manufacturers always brag about the millions of hours of testing that go into these cars, so I dont understand how these issues dont come up while they are testing the cars. I can understand long term issues or some other rarities, but a car stalling should be very evident at the testing stage.

Imola.ZHP · 05-01-2012, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver

I am a bit leery of start stop. At least there is a button to turn it off.

I experienced it riding in a friends CR-Z, I sure hope BMW's is smoother because I didn't like it at all. You would think a hybrid would start off on battery power and then the engine would kick back in but no, right off the get go and it was kinda rough, every time...

SD335M · 05-01-2012, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ric124

Every car has issues in the first few years of the model. The best model year to buy is the final year where most or all kinks have been worked out but nobody wants to buy the final year because after a year you feel that your new car is now out dated.

+1

lewishamilton · 05-01-2012, 05:24 PM

Just called my dealer and it looks like the bulletin hasn't been issued by BMW Canada yet

red-sauerkraut · 05-01-2012, 07:13 PM

Auto Fail IMO...

Mysecondwife · 05-01-2012, 09:08 PM

I'll keep my Dec 11 E90 335i xDrive M Sport...looks, feels, rides better!

05-01-2012, 07:52 AM	#1
E90Fleet Major General Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 7,851 iTrader: (0)	F30 335i Auto Stop Start stall service bulletin (SIB TSB) Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Auto Start-Stop Fix: BMW has released software to fix any of the early 335i F30 that had a problem where the engine sometimes stalled after the Auto Stop/Start system tried to restart. Problem was a calibration error. BMW cites an unfavorable DME software application as the source of the issue. It affects cars produced from 11/2/2011 to 2/29/2012. USA members, refer your dealer to "SIB 12 06 12" (Service bulletin 10 12 00 09 00) Cars built from March 2012 on should not have these problems. Headrest Fix: EDIT: Sorry, there was a typo on the list, this is another fix, not the one for headrests not going low enough __________________ Nominated: Member of the Year, Most Contributing Member BMW if you are reading, I need a job Last edited by E90Fleet; 05-01-2012 at 11:18 AM.
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05-01-2012, 10:22 AM	#4
ric124 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 335i SP 6MT Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,533 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 335i Sport [5.00] 2012 Trek Mamba 29er [0.00]	Good find, I look forward to your updates. Right now im just happy that I have a April build __________________ Timeline: 335i Sport W/ Adaptive M suspension\| Sport Variable steering\| Technology PKG\| HK Sound PKG\| BMW apps\| BMW Assist\| Sport line hand brake grip\| M Performance black kidneys\|

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05-01-2012, 10:48 AM	#7
ric124 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F30 335i SP 6MT Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,533 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 335i Sport [5.00] 2012 Trek Mamba 29er [0.00]	Every car has issues in the first few years of the model. The best model year to buy is the final year where most or all kinks have been worked out but nobody wants to buy the final year because after a year you feel that your new car is now out dated. __________________ Timeline: 335i Sport W/ Adaptive M suspension\| Sport Variable steering\| Technology PKG\| HK Sound PKG\| BMW apps\| BMW Assist\| Sport line hand brake grip\| M Performance black kidneys\|

05-01-2012, 11:02 AM	#9
Greenkirby21 Vrooom :) Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dream Land Posts: 1,767 iTrader: (1)	ooo interesting. my mom has the new 335i and she told me it kept on turning off the engine. She took it to dealership and got it back yesterday. __________________ 2009 128i Coupe Crimson Red MODS: -Injen Intake-Magnaflow Exhaust-Carbon Fiber Spoiler - Carbon Fiber Grilles - OZ Ultraleggeras - CF Mirrors

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BigKutta Lieutenant Drives: 2012 528i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Washington DC Posts: 529 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 528i [0.00] 2012 BMW 528i [0.00]	Thanks E90Fleet. Could you tell me where you found this out? The head rest issue exists with the F10 and I would like to know what the fix would be.

05-01-2012, 11:30 AM	#12
jzcrna Captain Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 753 iTrader: (0)	This sucks. Although the occasional stalling does not bother me my wife is borrowing my car this weekend because I will be using her van out of town and she is going to freak if it stalls. These updates also can take forever. Has anyone done this update and how long has it taken? Thanks.

05-01-2012, 11:32 AM	#13
Frosty Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Ordered my E92 (7/10/06) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,807 iTrader: (0)	Auto Stall ha! __________________ .................................................. .................... 335i Coupe (6MT) (2007: 9/06 build, pre ordered, only owner): Space Grey / Black Leatherette / Grey Poplar trim / ZCW / ZSP / BMW assist w/ bluetooth / power rear shade / navi with iDrive / comfort access keyless entry /+homelink mirror/ 144,896+miles (Mar-27-2013) .................................................. ......................

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05-01-2012, 01:34 PM	#16
BMWI6 Major Drives: 335is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 1,314 iTrader: (2)	Manufacturers always brag about the millions of hours of testing that go into these cars, so I dont understand how these issues dont come up while they are testing the cars. I can understand long term issues or some other rarities, but a car stalling should be very evident at the testing stage. __________________ If everything seems under control, then you aren't going fast enough"

05-01-2012, 05:24 PM	#20
lewishamilton Private Drives: 2012 F30 335i SL MR Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 70 iTrader: (0)	Just called my dealer and it looks like the bulletin hasn't been issued by BMW Canada yet __________________ 2012 335i Melbourne Red Sports Line

05-01-2012, 07:13 PM	#21
red-sauerkraut . Drives: m-car / x-car Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: northern hemisphere Posts: 2,767 iTrader: (0)	Auto Fail IMO... __________________ Joy

05-01-2012, 09:08 PM	#22
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