[04cbm3]

Originally Posted by bimmer

...ugly front other than that handsome sedan

the head lights are a fail but everything else is nice

[335dM]

We have 320d xdrive 8 speed here in Canada )

[jdcolombo]

Originally Posted by Alpine F31

"It is a 146mph car that can accelerate from 0-60mph in a GTI-crushing 7.5sec, yet return 61.4mpg"

What makes BMW think that wouldn't sell here in the USA?

What's sad about this is that the US could cut its gasoline consumption by 15% or so if we could convert just half the cars out there to diesels. All without fancy (and environmentally questionable) battery technology, exotic fuels (hydrogen), electric refilling stations (also environmentally questionable given our reliance on coal for electric generation), etc. No infrastructure cost at all, in fact, since nearly all gas stations sell diesel. It would be fairly easy to do: just change highway fuel tax rules to make sure gasoline is always about 20 cents a gallon more expensive than diesel (you could do this by either taxing gasoline more, or diesel less, or some combo of the two). Couple the pump price savings with the instant 30% increase in fuel economy (comparing to an older gasoline car, which would be the first to be ditched in favor of the newfangled diesels) and you would find a huge diesel market in the US. But instead we pursue technologies that won't pay off for decades.

John C.

PS - proud owner of X5 30d

[MrPig]

Originally Posted by 335dM

We have 320d xdrive 8 speed here in Canada )

You keep posting this, yet everytime I ask you for a source you ignore it. Googling "F30 320d Canada" brings nothing but bimmerpost and bimmerforums threads.

[AlexM]

Originally Posted by Schm

Will be more interesting when Audi/MB brings out new models of the A4/C. BMW just owns their current offerings in every test we've seen.

New A4 is already out for a month now, didn't do well against F30 though

[AlexM]

Originally Posted by GetWellSoon

This car looks better on pics than real life

For some (many) of us it's exactly the opposite...

[SCBimmerKid]

Originally Posted by AlexM

New A4 is already out for a month now, didn't do well against F30 though

That's not really a new A4, it's a refreshed A4, similar to the refreshed C-Class. I think he's talking about the complete new cars.

[lucamatblu41]

The look of the F30 is certainly keeping the forums busy, from some angles there is no denying it looks disjointed, however, from others it looks good. It was to be my default choice as the lease on my current E90 320d M Sport ends soon. I test drove it against the revised A4 and A5 last week & am happy to report that despite the A4/A5 being the better looking cars (inside and out) the F30 drove so much better.
Took out manual & auto both fabulous, slight offset pedals on manual may deter some but the car felt so right on the road, more compliant that my current E90 (welcome news, getting older!) and the steering despite being electrically assisted felt so assured, lighter at low speed (again a step up from the E90) the Audis for all their looks handled poorly (Sportsline trim tested) steering felt numb and lifeless...even drove an A6 as its getting rave reviews over here in the UK (better than the other 2 by quite a margin) however still get the the buzz the Beemer gives you so have ordered a 320i Sport Manual Leather 397s Xenons & Sunroof in White...only downside it doesn't get here till June 8th!!!

[AlexM]

Originally Posted by SCBimmerKid

That's not really a new A4, it's a refreshed A4, similar to the refreshed C-Class. I think he's talking about the complete new cars.

ok that's like 2nd facelift then. Gonna take another 3 years before they put out the new one...

[tuned2ride]

Originally Posted by 335dM

We have 320d xdrive 8 speed here in Canada )

No we don't and won't.

[SCBimmerKid]

Originally Posted by AlexM

ok that's like 2nd facelift then. Gonna take another 3 years before they put out the new one...

Yea, Audi sure does take their time! haha, but BMW and Mercedes do too, if you think about it lol

[QLD]

Originally Posted by SMGFTW

If only we could get that engine in the states!

And spend $450 on a diesel tuning box and not only enjoy the fuel savings, but you will have a V8 killer.

320d gearbox and diff ratios - 8 speed - power to weight - and torque... bye bye V8's.

[Robin_NL]

Nice. But a V8 killer? Which V8 then?

I was thinking about C63AMGs,Z06s and 458s

[QLD]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Nice. But a V8 killer? Which V8 then?

I feel ill on the owners behalf, the number of times I have embarrassed the owners of these so called "Muscle Cars" from the General.

Particularly weak from 110kms to 210kms... simply have no pull and the 4 cyl diesel kills these pieces of puss EVERY time..

http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/GTS/

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by QLD

I feel ill on the owners behalf, the number of times I have embarrassed the owners of these so called "Muscle Cars" from the General.

Particularly weak from 110kms to 210kms... simply have no pull and the 4 cyl diesel kills these pieces of puss EVERY time..

http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/GTS/

But a non GM car like this one would be more of a problem I guess.



I'm 'driving' such a thing in the racingsim www.iracing.com, It's fun, it's heavy and it drifts.

[QLD]

hahaha.. Falcons are worse... except for the massive turbo'ed F6 versions.... they are monsters... but the standard Boss V8's are there for the taking