First F30 335i (N55) Dyno Results Are In. Also Underrated From Factory. - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32)

jtuds · 02-22-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iJWC

with the weight and balance differences it make the 335i less tempting

Once you drive and hear both, I think you will feel differently.

justinnum1 · 02-22-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

Once you drive and hear both, I think you will feel differently.

I drove both, if you need the power than the 335 for sure, but the 328 is marginally slower and handles better imo.

positiveions · 02-22-2012, 05:51 PM

interesting...
I am just waiting to see how tuners going to play around with 328s'. Looks more promising.

335iJWC · 02-22-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

Once you drive and hear both, I think you will feel differently.

Dont get me wrong ive owned an FBO N54 with meth and im all for power,

im just saying in the past i would have never considered a 328! now the gap is much smaller both cars are great sports cars, and can be tuned to achive more power.
making the higher MPG more balanced and Cheaper car Very Tempting!!!

MI6 · 02-22-2012, 06:18 PM

Hmmmm........

Wonder why the C&D test of 5.2/5.3 sec's was so slow then. Either it is the new intake/exhaust or the 335 they tested was an aberration.

Who knows????

-BOND

S.hasan546 · 02-22-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

I drove both, if you need the power than the 335 for sure, but the 328 is marginally slower and handles better imo.

driven both as well. The power difference is still evident. Love the increased power of the 335. The handling advantage of the 328 can barely be felt. Yes on the track the 328 might handle better but for a DD id take the 335 over the 328 anyway. Especially b.c the lease payment difference is minuscule ($40ish). And if your on the track you should be in a different car all together. wouldn't want either the 335 or 328 on a track anyways.

y789 · 02-22-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by catalyst

I can see it now -- F32 - 340i

....or something

or 440i ?!

bmrm396 · 02-22-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MI6

Hmmmm........

Wonder why the C&D test of 5.2/5.3 sec's was so slow then. Either it is the new intake/exhaust or the 335 they tested was an aberration.

Who knows????

-BOND

bad gas ...

BimmerMat135 · 02-22-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by atlharry

Not to say that this isn't true, but I would just love to see the run done on the same dyno as the one that the N20 ran on...

There is the N55 on the same dyno I also been adding the N54 on the same dyno

justinnum1 · 02-22-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by S.hasan546

driven both as well. The power difference is still evident. Love the increased power of the 335. The handling advantage of the 328 can barely be felt. Yes on the track the 328 might handle better but for a DD id take the 335 over the 328 anyway. Especially b.c the lease payment difference is minuscule ($40ish). And if your on the track you should be in a different car all together. wouldn't want either the 335 or 328 on a track anyways.

There is no way the price difference is 40 a month, maybe a loaded 328 vs a base 335...but a 335 with leather and sport will be at least 100 more.

S.hasan546 · 02-22-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

There is no way the price difference is 40 a month, maybe a loaded 328 vs a base 335...but a 335 with leather and sport will be at least 100 more.

My 328i was $47795 (Luxury Line), 335i was $52295 (sport line). Came out to a $40 difference.

Both had similar options. (besides the line difference). Sport line on the 335 is only $1700 tho. Luxury line on the 328i is $2100, sport line is only $400 more.

The price difference between the 328 & 335 that similarly optioned is only about $4000. So $4000 * 38% (100%-62% residual)= $42

GmoBmw · 02-22-2012, 07:30 PM

Yep Id go with the 335i any day. No way im paying close to 50k for a 4cylinder. I6 all day.

svache · 02-22-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GmoBmw

Yep Id go with the 335i any day. No way im paying close to 50k for a 4cylinder. I6 all day.

It's not always a money issue for people to choose for the 328i

DOUT · 02-22-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by coolchu001

the gap between 328i and 335i is much smaller now...

Still pretty big...

justinnum1 · 02-22-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by S.hasan546

My 328i was $47795 (Luxury Line), 335i was $52295 (sport line). Came out to a $40 difference.

Both had similar options. (besides the line difference). Sport line on the 335 is only $1700 tho. Luxury line on the 328i is $2100, sport line is only $400 more.

The price difference between the 328 & 335 that similarly optioned is only about $4000. So $4000 * 38% (100%-62% residual)= $42

Still dont see how $4000 equates to 40 bucks a month...its like $25 for every 1000...Its juts impossible. Not trying to be an ass here, i am very good with financing calculations, just dont understand how you are coming up with those numbers

fg3 · 02-22-2012, 08:36 PM

Right now, with the current lease programs, I could lease the exact same optioned 2012 335i or 328i, sold at $1250 over invoice for a difference of $45.24/month.

Those are the numbers, period. I chose the 335i.

I'm happy to map it all out, if necessary.

S.hasan546 · 02-22-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

Still dont see how $4000 equates to 40 bucks a month...its like $25 for every 1000...Its juts impossible. Not trying to be an ass here, i am very good with financing calculations, just dont understand how you are coming up with those numbers

$4000 price difference.
62% residual (15k/year).

SOooo

$4000 * 62% residual = $2480

$4000-$2480= $1520

$1520/36= $42.

Rough crude math without interest; etc. But it is no where near a $100 difference.

S.hasan546 · 02-22-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fg3

Right now, with the current lease programs, I could lease the exact same optioned 2012 335i or 328i, sold at $1250 over invoice for a difference of $45.24/month.

Those are the numbers, period. I chose the 335i.

I'm happy to map it all out, if necessary.

Exactly

I was going to go with the 328 as well. But for $40-$45 difference I'm happy i made the decision to go 335. Especially when the mpg with the new 8 speed auto is only 2-3 mpg.

JulieDriving · 02-22-2012, 08:51 PM

There may be nothing new here, but I for one am glad to hear it's still the same good engine. I love my 335i. The new 328i seems tempting, but I'm not sure either I could give up the inline-6 engine. It's just a remarkable engine - still is, even though it may be "yesterday's news".

antzcrashing · 02-22-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iJWC

only about 40-50 more horses than a 328.

with the weight and balance differences it make the 335i less tempting

what you guys are not considering is that that 6 cylinder is barely breaking a sweat, whereas the 4 cylinder is working its ass off. The 6 will be a more long-lasting and reliable engine.

antzcrashing · 02-22-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GmoBmw

Yep Id go with the 335i any day. No way im paying close to 50k for a 4cylinder. I6 all day.

+1, and the I6 won't come with granny wheels

Liquid2.0T · 02-22-2012, 09:48 PM

I think the crank figures posted are wrong mathematically. What am I missing here?

275whp * 1.15 = 316.25hp to the crank. Not 324hp as claimed.

Am I not taking into account something? I see this is not the first time this translation has been done incorrectly also.

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positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 9,026 iTrader: (1)	interesting... I am just waiting to see how tuners going to play around with 328s'. Looks more promising. __________________

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GmoBmw Captain Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: California Posts: 638 iTrader: (7)	Yep Id go with the 335i any day. No way im paying close to 50k for a 4cylinder. I6 all day. __________________ 2007 BMW 335I- JB4 G5,DCI,VRSF DPs,NT555r Drag Radials Daily Driver

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JulieDriving Female driving enthusiast :P Drives: Bimmer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,235 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 335i Coupe [5.00] 2013 BMW M3 Coupe [5.00]	There may be nothing new here, but I for one am glad to hear it's still the same good engine. I love my 335i. The new 328i seems tempting, but I'm not sure either I could give up the inline-6 engine. It's just a remarkable engine - still is, even though it may be "yesterday's news". __________________ Present: 2013 M3 coupe (Azurite Black, Black, Piano Black) Past: 2010 335i coupe (Monaco Blue, Cream Beige, Grey Poplar)

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02-22-2012, 06:18 PM	#27
MI6 The World is Not Enough Drives: Aston DBS-R Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Skyfall Posts: 1,023 iTrader: (0)	Hmmmm........ Wonder why the C&D test of 5.2/5.3 sec's was so slow then. Either it is the new intake/exhaust or the 335 they tested was an aberration. Who knows???? -BOND

02-22-2012, 08:36 PM	#38
fg3 New Member Drives: 2012 335i Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 28 iTrader: (0)	Right now, with the current lease programs, I could lease the exact same optioned 2012 335i or 328i, sold at $1250 over invoice for a difference of $45.24/month. Those are the numbers, period. I chose the 335i. I'm happy to map it all out, if necessary.

02-22-2012, 09:48 PM	#44
Liquid2.0T Private First Class Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 113 iTrader: (0)	I think the crank figures posted are wrong mathematically. What am I missing here? 275whp * 1.15 = 316.25hp to the crank. Not 324hp as claimed. Am I not taking into account something? I see this is not the first time this translation has been done incorrectly also.